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What a relief. I thought I was going to have to start with 5 minute

intervals at 1000 watts. Doing intervals at 500 watts is much more

manageable. ;o)

Pat

-----Original Message-----

From: Derl Miller [mailto:derlm-@hotmail.com]

Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:28 PM

To: murphy_-@hotmail.com; Pat Sagers; ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] How much power to be the world's best?

Actually, from my humble knowledge and experience, neither of

those are even

close. Jonathan Vaughters (TdF vet) is one person who has

delved into this

question. 3x your body weight is his best estimate. I just

read another

scientific estimate in Cycle Sport stating that Lance cranked

out 450W in

the 01' Tour going up Alpe d'Huez. From what I've read, he's

~70kg (154lbs)

at his peak, so 3x would be fairly accurate. Maybe, a little

low, Alpe

d'Huez is ~1 hour for Lance, he had also raced 4, non-flat

hours prior to

that.

From: Peter Murphy <murphy_-@hotmail.com>

Reply-To: murphy_-@hotmail.com

To: pat_s-@orcom.com, ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] How much power to be the world's best?

Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 15:14:52 -0400

I think that is weight in Kilos

200lbs=>91kg =>636 Watts

From: Pat Sagers <pat_s-@orcom.com>

Reply-To: pat_s-@orcom.com

To: "'ob-@topica.com'" <ob-@topica.com>

Subject: [OBRA Chat] How much power to be the world's best?

Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:32:20 -0700

Found this quote on bike.com. I put together some weights and speeds

required to meet the challenge. I thought it was very

interesting and

unbelievable. I don't think anyone in the world could hold

those wattages

for 30 minutes. Am I wrong?

Do you want an easy way to see how you stack up to Tour de France

contenders? Multiply your body weight by seven. The number

you see is the

number of watts you need to be able to produce, and sustain

for at least 30

minutes, to have a chance of winning a Grand Tour. Author: Chris

Carmichael

For each of these I added an 8 kilo bike weight.

I used the calculator on Chis's site to get my numbers. I

think there is

another one where you can dial in the bike much more accurately, but

couldn't find it.

For me at 205, that would be 1435 watts for 30 minutes. Or

in perfect TT

conditions at sea level on a good road bike (no aero bars)

that would be

46.3 mph or a 20K TT in 16 minutes.

For 180, that would be 1260 watts for 30 minutes. 44.38 mph.

20K TT in 17

minutes.

For 150, that would be 1050 watts for 30 minutes. 41.7 mph.

20K TT in 18

minutes.

For 130, that would be 910 watts for 30 minutes. 39.79 mph.

20K TT in 19

minutes.

Maybe someone can check my math, if you have nothing better

to do, but I

don't think these speeds can possibly be correct.

Boardman's hour record

was only 35mph on a superman bike.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Pat Sagers

Systems Engineer

Orcom Solutions, Inc

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(541) 389-8267 fax

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What a relief. I thought I was going to have to start with 5 minute intervals at 1000 watts. Doing intervals at 500 watts is much more manageable. ;o)

Pat



> -----Original Message-----

 > From: Derl Miller [<A HREF="mailto:derlm-@hotmail.com">mailto:derlm-@hotmail.com</A>]

 > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:28 PM

 > To: murphy_-@hotmail.com; Pat Sagers; ob-@topica.com

 > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] How much power to be the world's best?

 > 

 > 

 > Actually, from my humble knowledge and experience, neither of 

 > those are even 

 > close. Jonathan Vaughters (TdF vet) is one person who has 

 > delved into this 

 > question. 3x your body weight is his best estimate. I just 

 > read another 

 > scientific estimate in Cycle Sport stating that Lance cranked 

 > out 450W in 

 > the 01' Tour going up Alpe d'Huez. From what I've read, he's 

 > ~70kg (154lbs) 

 > at his peak, so 3x would be fairly accurate. Maybe, a little 

 > low, Alpe 

 > d'Huez is ~1 hour for Lance, he had also raced 4, non-flat 

 > hours prior to 

 > that.

 > 

 > 

 > From: Peter Murphy <murphy_-@hotmail.com>

 > Reply-To: murphy_-@hotmail.com

 > To: pat_s-@orcom.com, ob-@topica.com

 > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] How much power to be the world's best?

 > Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 15:14:52 -0400

 > 

 > I think that is weight in Kilos

 > 

 > 200lbs=>91kg =>636 Watts

 > 

 > 

 > >From: Pat Sagers <pat_s-@orcom.com>

 > >Reply-To: pat_s-@orcom.com

 > >To: "'ob-@topica.com'" <ob-@topica.com>

 > >Subject: [OBRA Chat] How much power to be the world's best?

 > >Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:32:20 -0700

 > >

 > >Found this quote on bike.com. I put together some weights and speeds

 > >required to meet the challenge. I thought it was very 

 > interesting and

 > >unbelievable. I don't think anyone in the world could hold 

 > those wattages

 > >for 30 minutes. Am I wrong?

 > >

 > >Do you want an easy way to see how you stack up to Tour de France

 > >contenders? Multiply your body weight by seven. The number 

 > you see is the

 > >number of watts you need to be able to produce, and sustain 

 > for at least 30

 > >minutes, to have a chance of winning a Grand Tour. Author: Chris 

 > >Carmichael

 > >

 > >For each of these I added an 8 kilo bike weight.

 > >I used the calculator on Chis's site to get my numbers. I 

 > think there is

 > >another one where you can dial in the bike much more accurately, but

 > >couldn't find it.

 > >

 > >For me at 205, that would be 1435 watts for 30 minutes. Or 

 > in perfect TT

 > >conditions at sea level on a good road bike (no aero bars) 

 > that would be

 > >46.3 mph or a 20K TT in 16 minutes.

 > >For 180, that would be 1260 watts for 30 minutes. 44.38 mph. 

 > 20K TT in 17

 > >minutes.

 > >

 > >For 150, that would be 1050 watts for 30 minutes. 41.7 mph. 

 > 20K TT in 18

 > >minutes.

 > >

 > >For 130, that would be 910 watts for 30 minutes. 39.79 mph. 

 > 20K TT in 19

 > >minutes.

 > >

 > >Maybe someone can check my math, if you have nothing better 

 > to do, but I

 > >don't think these speeds can possibly be correct. 

 > Boardman's hour record

 > >was only 35mph on a superman bike.

 > >Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 > >

 > >Pat Sagers

 > >

 > >Systems Engineer

 > >Orcom Solutions, Inc

 > >(541) 389-0120 x1554 voice

 > >(541) 389-8267 fax

 > >

 > >

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Derl Miller

2003-06-24

Actually, from my humble knowledge and experience, neither of those are even

close. Jonathan Vaughters (TdF vet) is one person who has delved into this

question. 3x your body weight is his best estimate. I just read another

scientific estimate in Cycle Sport stating that Lance cranked out 450W in

the 01' Tour going up Alpe d'Huez. From what I've read, he's ~70kg (154lbs)

at his peak, so 3x would be fairly accurate. Maybe, a little low, Alpe

d'Huez is ~1 hour for Lance, he had also raced 4, non-flat hours prior to

that.

From: Peter Murphy <murphy_-@hotmail.com>

Reply-To: murphy_-@hotmail.com

To: pat_s-@orcom.com, ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] How much power to be the world's best?

Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 15:14:52 -0400

I think that is weight in Kilos

200lbs=>91kg =>636 Watts

From: Pat Sagers <pat_s-@orcom.com>

Reply-To: pat_s-@orcom.com

To: "'ob-@topica.com'" <ob-@topica.com>

Subject: [OBRA Chat] How much power to be the world's best?

Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:32:20 -0700

Found this quote on bike.com. I put together some weights and speeds

required to meet the challenge. I thought it was very interesting and

unbelievable. I don't think anyone in the world could hold those wattages

for 30 minutes. Am I wrong?

Do you want an easy way to see how you stack up to Tour de France

contenders? Multiply your body weight by seven. The number you see is the

number of watts you need to be able to produce, and sustain for at least 30

minutes, to have a chance of winning a Grand Tour. Author: Chris

Carmichael

For each of these I added an 8 kilo bike weight.

I used the calculator on Chis's site to get my numbers. I think there is

another one where you can dial in the bike much more accurately, but

couldn't find it.

For me at 205, that would be 1435 watts for 30 minutes. Or in perfect TT

conditions at sea level on a good road bike (no aero bars) that would be

46.3 mph or a 20K TT in 16 minutes.

For 180, that would be 1260 watts for 30 minutes. 44.38 mph. 20K TT in 17

minutes.

For 150, that would be 1050 watts for 30 minutes. 41.7 mph. 20K TT in 18

minutes.

For 130, that would be 910 watts for 30 minutes. 39.79 mph. 20K TT in 19

minutes.

Maybe someone can check my math, if you have nothing better to do, but I

don't think these speeds can possibly be correct. Boardman's hour record

was only 35mph on a superman bike.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Pat Sagers

Systems Engineer

Orcom Solutions, Inc

(541) 389-0120 x1554 voice

(541) 389-8267 fax

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Peter Murphy

2003-06-24

I think that is weight in Kilos

200lbs=>91kg =>636 Watts

From: Pat Sagers <pat_s-@orcom.com>

Reply-To: pat_s-@orcom.com

To: "'ob-@topica.com'" <ob-@topica.com>

Subject: [OBRA Chat] How much power to be the world's best?

Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:32:20 -0700

Found this quote on bike.com. I put together some weights and speeds

required to meet the challenge. I thought it was very interesting and

unbelievable. I don't think anyone in the world could hold those wattages

for 30 minutes. Am I wrong?

Do you want an easy way to see how you stack up to Tour de France

contenders? Multiply your body weight by seven. The number you see is the

number of watts you need to be able to produce, and sustain for at least 30

minutes, to have a chance of winning a Grand Tour. Author: Chris

Carmichael

For each of these I added an 8 kilo bike weight.

I used the calculator on Chis's site to get my numbers. I think there is

another one where you can dial in the bike much more accurately, but

couldn't find it.

For me at 205, that would be 1435 watts for 30 minutes. Or in perfect TT

conditions at sea level on a good road bike (no aero bars) that would be

46.3 mph or a 20K TT in 16 minutes.

For 180, that would be 1260 watts for 30 minutes. 44.38 mph. 20K TT in 17

minutes.

For 150, that would be 1050 watts for 30 minutes. 41.7 mph. 20K TT in 18

minutes.

For 130, that would be 910 watts for 30 minutes. 39.79 mph. 20K TT in 19

minutes.

Maybe someone can check my math, if you have nothing better to do, but I

don't think these speeds can possibly be correct. Boardman's hour record

was only 35mph on a superman bike.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Pat Sagers

Systems Engineer

Orcom Solutions, Inc

(541) 389-0120 x1554 voice

(541) 389-8267 fax

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Found this quote on bike.com. I put together some weights and speeds

required to meet the challenge. I thought it was very interesting and

unbelievable. I don't think anyone in the world could hold those wattages

for 30 minutes. Am I wrong?

Do you want an easy way to see how you stack up to Tour de France

contenders? Multiply your body weight by seven. The number you see is the

number of watts you need to be able to produce, and sustain for at least 30

minutes, to have a chance of winning a Grand Tour. Author: Chris Carmichael

For each of these I added an 8 kilo bike weight.

I used the calculator on Chis's site to get my numbers. I think there is

another one where you can dial in the bike much more accurately, but

couldn't find it.

For me at 205, that would be 1435 watts for 30 minutes. Or in perfect TT

conditions at sea level on a good road bike (no aero bars) that would be

46.3 mph or a 20K TT in 16 minutes.

For 180, that would be 1260 watts for 30 minutes. 44.38 mph. 20K TT in 17

minutes.

For 150, that would be 1050 watts for 30 minutes. 41.7 mph. 20K TT in 18

minutes.

For 130, that would be 910 watts for 30 minutes. 39.79 mph. 20K TT in 19

minutes.

Maybe someone can check my math, if you have nothing better to do, but I

don't think these speeds can possibly be correct. Boardman's hour record

was only 35mph on a superman bike.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Pat Sagers

Systems Engineer

Orcom Solutions, Inc

(541) 389-0120 x1554 voice

(541) 389-8267 fax

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<DIV>Found

this quote on bike.com. I put together some weights and speeds

required to meet the challenge. I thought it was very interesting and

unbelievable. I don't think anyone in the world could hold those wattages

for 30 minutes. Am I wrong?</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV>Do you want an easy way

to see how you stack up to Tour de France contenders? Multiply your body weight

by seven. The number you see is the number of watts you need to be able to

produce, and sustain for at least 30 minutes, to have a chance of winning a

Grand Tour. Author: Chris Carmichael</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV>For each of

these I added an 8 kilo bike weight. </DIV>

<DIV>I used the

calculator on Chis's site to get my numbers. I think there is another one

where you can dial in the bike much more accurately, but couldn't find

it.</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV>For me at 205, that

would be 1435 watts for 30 minutes. Or in perfect TT conditions at sea

level on a good road bike (no aero bars) that would be 46.3

mph or a 20K TT in 16 minutes.</DIV>

<DIV>

For 180, that would be 1260 watts for 30

minutes. 44.38 mph. 20K TT in 17 minutes.

For 150, that would be 1050 watts for 30

minutes. 41.7 mph. 20K TT in 18 minutes.

For 130, that would be 910 watts for 30

minutes. 39.79 mph. 20K TT in 19 minutes.</DIV>

<DIV align=left>Maybe someone

can check my math, if you have nothing better to do, but I don't think

these speeds can possibly be correct. Boardman's hour record was only

35mph on a superman bike.</DIV>

<DIV align=left>Please correct me if

I'm wrong.</DIV>

<DIV align=left> </DIV>

<DIV align=left>Pat Sagers</DIV>

<DIV align=left> </DIV>

<DIV align=left>Systems Engineer</DIV>

<DIV align=left>Orcom Solutions, Inc</DIV>

<DIV align=left>(541) 389-0120 x1554 voice</DIV>

<DIV align=left>(541) 389-8267 fax</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV></BODY></HTML>

 

 

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