re: promoter's and profits

Anthony L Cree

2003-06-28



The shredtopia course in corvallis, in my opinion, was the best mtn bike

course ever. Any chance of ever seeing that course used again?



-----Original Message-----

From: Bill Thomas [mailto:bill_t-@attbi.com]

Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 11:32 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] promoter's and profits





I'd like to weigh in here. I used to promote Mtn bike races here in Oregon.

I have helped with many Mudslingers and state championships, and finally

headed up 3 years of Shredtopia! We raced 2 years in Corvallis and a final

year out in Yamhill as a test venue for the World Masters games. Did we make

any money? Yes. We averaged a net profit of about $700 for each race, the

final one in Yamhill actually cost us money due to all the land use fees

from the BLM and Tree farm owners, and the Flying M Ranch virtually bent us

over. This with 4-6 people working at least 20 hrs a week from early spring

to about 2 weeks past the race date. I should also mention that the final

race in Yamhill logged nearly 30k on the odometer of my car, for which I got

NADA in return. Now, with this "profit" we always used it to get our team to

Norba Nationals to defray the costs for our racers. My favorite was helping

Ryah Radomski get to Park City for the Norba finals in 1997, where he

literally kicked ass on the field, garnering himself a coaches selection to

the World Championships Team as an espoir. So you see, as far as profits go,

I got rich with experiences and rewarded with others successes. Those of you

that take the time to thank the promoters, (especially the Murray family)

are champs in my book, because for every one of you that makes that effort,

there are ten out there working on the belief that the racing community owes

them something. That having been said, I cannot remember details of any

single conflict, but can detail ten or more genuine efforts to thank myself

and my fellow promoters.



So THANK YOU to all the race promoters out there! YOU ROCK!!!



Bill Thomas





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Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 8:45 AM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] promoter's and profits





 







I would like to say since I know some of the race organizers from around

the state....THANKS.....I am well aware they do it for the love of the

sport and not the money....Thanks again









Drew Holmes





Bend, Oregon









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Bill Thomas

2003-06-28



I'd like to weigh in here. I used to promote Mtn bike races here in Oregon.

I have helped with many Mudslingers and state championships, and finally

headed up 3 years of Shredtopia! We raced 2 years in Corvallis and a final

year out in Yamhill as a test venue for the World Masters games. Did we make

any money? Yes. We averaged a net profit of about $700 for each race, the

final one in Yamhill actually cost us money due to all the land use fees

from the BLM and Tree farm owners, and the Flying M Ranch virtually bent us

over. This with 4-6 people working at least 20 hrs a week from early spring

to about 2 weeks past the race date. I should also mention that the final

race in Yamhill logged nearly 30k on the odometer of my car, for which I got

NADA in return. Now, with this "profit" we always used it to get our team to

Norba Nationals to defray the costs for our racers. My favorite was helping

Ryah Radomski get to Park City for the Norba finals in 1997, where he

literally kicked ass on the field, garnering himself a coaches selection to

the World Championships Team as an espoir. So you see, as far as profits go,

I got rich with experiences and rewarded with others successes. Those of you

that take the time to thank the promoters, (especially the Murray family)

are champs in my book, because for every one of you that makes that effort,

there are ten out there working on the belief that the racing community owes

them something. That having been said, I cannot remember details of any

single conflict, but can detail ten or more genuine efforts to thank myself

and my fellow promoters.



So THANK YOU to all the race promoters out there! YOU ROCK!!!



Bill Thomas





----- Original Message -----

From: <andrew.-@farmersinsurance.com>

To: <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 8:45 AM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] promoter's and profits





 







I would like to say since I know some of the race organizers from around

the state....THANKS.....I am well aware they do it for the love of the

sport and not the money....Thanks again









Drew Holmes





Bend, Oregon









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andrew.-@farmersinsurance.com

2003-06-27











I would like to say since I know some of the race organizers from around

the state....THANKS.....I am well aware they do it for the love of the

sport and not the money....Thanks again









Drew Holmes





Bend, Oregon









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