OBRA: OBRA Chat: Attn Promoters: Athletepath...

Brian Sather

2014-05-13

For our Roundabout Spout XC MTB race in July we are using our own
registration system, no registration fee and no CC storage, although I
can't guarantee less clicks than OBRA's system.

stevea.long

2014-05-12

Well I can sure add that from a user's perspective, the OBRA site is far easier to use. I just registered for a race and I have never clicked so many times in order to figure out how to get registered as I just did using Athlete path. Ugh!

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-------- Original message --------

From: Eric Aldinger

Date:05/12/2014 1:13 PM (GMT-08:00)

To: "T. Kenji Sugahara"

Cc: obra

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Attn Promoters: Athletepath registration fees?

My point exactly. I cannot get that answer that fast from Athletepath.

On May 12, 2014 1:11 PM, "T. Kenji Sugahara" wrote:
Server was patched immediately and new SSL certs were issued. In
theory you should change your passwords but no cc data is kept on our
servers.

On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Eric Aldinger wrote:
> I would like to point out that the OBRA site does not store your credit card
> info, which is much safer for the consumer. I am not able to say that of the
> AthletePath code. Both were vunerable to the heartbleed virus from what I
> could tell. However I know exactly who to contact about security questions
> with the OBRA site.
>
> On May 12, 2014 9:50 AM, "Mike Murray" wrote:
>>
>> I would like to point out that there are other efficiencies when race
>> organizers use the OBRA on line registration system with regard to
>> officiating and scoring. Race organizers may elect to use whatever system
>> they wish though. The decision is up to them.
>>
>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Willson
>> Sender: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
>> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 09:31:04
>> To: obra@list.obra.org chat
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Attn Promoters: Athletepath registration fees?
>>
>> I can't speak to other online registration, but here's the scoop on OBRA:
>> http://obra.org/online_registration
>>
>> OBRA charges $1 per order + 5%. That's usually paid by the racer, though
>> promoters can pay the fee themselves. That's pretty much it.
>>
>> OBRA started its own registration because, like you, I found the existing
>> services' fees expensive and also hard to use. Everyone, though, gets the
>> same steep fees from credit card companies—they charge a lot on even small
>> transactions. Which is why the coffee shop really wants you to use cash …
>>
>> The OBRA registration is priced just high enough to cover our costs
>> (including refunds and monthly fees), provide a margin so that we don't lose
>> money, and to give me small compensation for the time I spend to run it.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On May 12, 2014, at 8:07 AM, Megan Chinburg wrote:
>>
>> > Hi folks,
>> >
>> > I noticed that the Sister's Stampede only has online registration via
>> > AthletePath. I also noticed that AthletePath is now charging $4 per race
>> > registration to use their service.
>> >
>> > With more and more races running online registration through AP.com this
>> > extra $4 is adding up pretty quickly.
>> >
>> > I don't have insight in how much AP or Obra.org charges for promoters to
>> > use their services, so my inquiry might be a bit naive, but I would love to
>> > see promoters favor using signup services that don't charge such high
>> > registration fees.
>> >
>> > Obra.org is only $2.50 per signup. Are there costs to the promoter to
>> > use Obra that make Athletepath a better option? Just curious on the
>> > economics because I know promoters like to see pre-registration, but when it
>> > comes with an extra $4 price tag, I'd much prefer to stand in line on race
>> > day and fill out a form (that 9 times out of 10 I have to fill out anyway
>> > once I get there, pre-reg or not).
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Megan
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > OBRA mailing list
>> > obra@list.obra.org
>> > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
>> > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>>
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Kenji Sugahara
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Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
Phone: 503-278-5550
http://www.obra.org

Eric Aldinger

2014-05-12

My point exactly. I cannot get that answer that fast from Athletepath.
On May 12, 2014 1:11 PM, "T. Kenji Sugahara" wrote:

> Server was patched immediately and new SSL certs were issued. In
> theory you should change your passwords but no cc data is kept on our
> servers.
>
> On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Eric Aldinger
> wrote:
> > I would like to point out that the OBRA site does not store your credit
> card
> > info, which is much safer for the consumer. I am not able to say that of
> the
> > AthletePath code. Both were vunerable to the heartbleed virus from what I
> > could tell. However I know exactly who to contact about security
> questions
> > with the OBRA site.
> >
> > On May 12, 2014 9:50 AM, "Mike Murray" wrote:
> >>
> >> I would like to point out that there are other efficiencies when race
> >> organizers use the OBRA on line registration system with regard to
> >> officiating and scoring. Race organizers may elect to use whatever
> system
> >> they wish though. The decision is up to them.
> >>
> >> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Scott Willson
> >> Sender: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
> >> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 09:31:04
> >> To: obra@list.obra.org chat
> >> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Attn Promoters: Athletepath registration fees?
> >>
> >> I can't speak to other online registration, but here's the scoop on
> OBRA:
> >> http://obra.org/online_registration
> >>
> >> OBRA charges $1 per order + 5%. That's usually paid by the racer, though
> >> promoters can pay the fee themselves. That's pretty much it.
> >>
> >> OBRA started its own registration because, like you, I found the
> existing
> >> services' fees expensive and also hard to use. Everyone, though, gets
> the
> >> same steep fees from credit card companies—they charge a lot on even
> small
> >> transactions. Which is why the coffee shop really wants you to use cash
> …
> >>
> >> The OBRA registration is priced just high enough to cover our costs
> >> (including refunds and monthly fees), provide a margin so that we don't
> lose
> >> money, and to give me small compensation for the time I spend to run it.
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >> On May 12, 2014, at 8:07 AM, Megan Chinburg
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi folks,
> >> >
> >> > I noticed that the Sister's Stampede only has online registration via
> >> > AthletePath. I also noticed that AthletePath is now charging $4 per
> race
> >> > registration to use their service.
> >> >
> >> > With more and more races running online registration through AP.com
> this
> >> > extra $4 is adding up pretty quickly.
> >> >
> >> > I don't have insight in how much AP or Obra.org charges for promoters
> to
> >> > use their services, so my inquiry might be a bit naive, but I would
> love to
> >> > see promoters favor using signup services that don't charge such high
> >> > registration fees.
> >> >
> >> > Obra.org is only $2.50 per signup. Are there costs to the promoter to
> >> > use Obra that make Athletepath a better option? Just curious on the
> >> > economics because I know promoters like to see pre-registration, but
> when it
> >> > comes with an extra $4 price tag, I'd much prefer to stand in line on
> race
> >> > day and fill out a form (that 9 times out of 10 I have to fill out
> anyway
> >> > once I get there, pre-reg or not).
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Megan
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > OBRA mailing list
> >> > obra@list.obra.org
> >> > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> >> > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> OBRA mailing list
> >> obra@list.obra.org
> >> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> >> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> obra@list.obra.org
> >> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> >> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OBRA mailing list
> > obra@list.obra.org
> > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Kenji Sugahara
> Executive Director
> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> Phone: 503-278-5550
> http://www.obra.org
>

T. Kenji Sugahara

2014-05-12

Server was patched immediately and new SSL certs were issued. In
theory you should change your passwords but no cc data is kept on our
servers.

On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Eric Aldinger wrote:
> I would like to point out that the OBRA site does not store your credit card
> info, which is much safer for the consumer. I am not able to say that of the
> AthletePath code. Both were vunerable to the heartbleed virus from what I
> could tell. However I know exactly who to contact about security questions
> with the OBRA site.
>
> On May 12, 2014 9:50 AM, "Mike Murray" wrote:
>>
>> I would like to point out that there are other efficiencies when race
>> organizers use the OBRA on line registration system with regard to
>> officiating and scoring. Race organizers may elect to use whatever system
>> they wish though. The decision is up to them.
>>
>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Willson
>> Sender: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
>> Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 09:31:04
>> To: obra@list.obra.org chat
>> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Attn Promoters: Athletepath registration fees?
>>
>> I can't speak to other online registration, but here's the scoop on OBRA:
>> http://obra.org/online_registration
>>
>> OBRA charges $1 per order + 5%. That's usually paid by the racer, though
>> promoters can pay the fee themselves. That's pretty much it.
>>
>> OBRA started its own registration because, like you, I found the existing
>> services' fees expensive and also hard to use. Everyone, though, gets the
>> same steep fees from credit card companies��they charge a lot on even small
>> transactions. Which is why the coffee shop really wants you to use cash ��
>>
>> The OBRA registration is priced just high enough to cover our costs
>> (including refunds and monthly fees), provide a margin so that we don't lose
>> money, and to give me small compensation for the time I spend to run it.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On May 12, 2014, at 8:07 AM, Megan Chinburg wrote:
>>
>> > Hi folks,
>> >
>> > I noticed that the Sister's Stampede only has online registration via
>> > AthletePath. I also noticed that AthletePath is now charging $4 per race
>> > registration to use their service.
>> >
>> > With more and more races running online registration through AP.com this
>> > extra $4 is adding up pretty quickly.
>> >
>> > I don't have insight in how much AP or Obra.org charges for promoters to
>> > use their services, so my inquiry might be a bit naive, but I would love to
>> > see promoters favor using signup services that don't charge such high
>> > registration fees.
>> >
>> > Obra.org is only $2.50 per signup. Are there costs to the promoter to
>> > use Obra that make Athletepath a better option? Just curious on the
>> > economics because I know promoters like to see pre-registration, but when it
>> > comes with an extra $4 price tag, I'd much prefer to stand in line on race
>> > day and fill out a form (that 9 times out of 10 I have to fill out anyway
>> > once I get there, pre-reg or not).
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Megan
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > OBRA mailing list
>> > obra@list.obra.org
>> > http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
>> > Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> OBRA mailing list
>> obra@list.obra.org
>> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
>> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> OBRA mailing list
>> obra@list.obra.org
>> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
>> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org
>
>
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>

--
Kenji Sugahara
Executive Director
Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
Phone: 503-278-5550
http://www.obra.org

Melanie Rathe

2014-05-12

Ditto what Candi said. Since less promoters seem to be using OBRA pre reg I have WAY more team name issues, etc. not only when I am Chief Judge but when posting results from other CJs!

Just remember when you are using pre-reg that is not OBRA, register with all the information you want to show in results. Abbreviating your team name with cause the team name not to show up on OBRA results page; thus, extra work for everyone.

Mel

;o)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Candi Murray"
To: "OBRA' 'remailer"
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 12:29:01 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Attn Promoters: Athletepath registration fees?

Like Mike says. It is so easy to download registration in the camera and
scoring files that the OBRA judges use. It removes the process of entering
riders, ensure that the spelling and teams match.
I would like all the race organizers to use this site, and not just
because...............
Candi

-----Original Message-----
From: obra-bounces@list.obra.org [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Murray
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 9:46 AM
To: remailer, OBRA
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Attn Promoters: Athletepath registration fees?

I would like to point out that there are other efficiencies when race
organizers use the OBRA on line registration system with regard to
officiating and scoring. Race organizers may elect to use whatever system
they wish though. The decision is up to them.

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Willson
Sender: obra-bounces@list.obra.org
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 09:31:04
To: obra@list.obra.org chat
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Attn Promoters: Athletepath registration fees?

I can't speak to other online registration, but here's the scoop on OBRA:
http://obra.org/online_registration

OBRA charges $1 per order + 5%. That's usually paid by the racer, though
promoters can pay the fee themselves. That's pretty much it.

OBRA started its own registration because, like you, I found the existing
services' fees expensive and also hard to use. Everyone, though, gets the
same steep fees from credit card companies-they charge a lot on even small
transactions. Which is why the coffee shop really wants you to use cash .

The OBRA registration is priced just high enough to cover our costs
(including refunds and monthly fees), provide a margin so that we don't lose
money, and to give me small compensation for the time I spend to run it.

Scott

On May 12, 2014, at 8:07 AM, Megan Chinburg wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I noticed that the Sister's Stampede only has online registration via
AthletePath. I also noticed that AthletePath is now charging $4 per race
registration to use their service.
>
> With more and more races running online registration through AP.com this
extra $4 is adding up pretty quickly.
>
> I don't have insight in how much AP or Obra.org charges for promoters to
use their services, so my inquiry might be a bit naive, but I would love to
see promoters favor using signup services that don't charge such high
registration fees.
>
> Obra.org is only $2.50 per signup. Are there costs to the promoter to use
Obra that make Athletepath a better option? Just curious on the economics
because I know promoters like to see pre-registration, but when it comes
with an extra $4 price tag, I'd much prefer to stand in line on race day and
fill out a form (that 9 times out of 10 I have to fill out anyway once I get
there, pre-reg or not).
>
> Thanks,
> Megan
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA mailing list
> obra@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra
> Unsubscribe: obra-unsubscribe@list.obra.org

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