Eric Aldinger

Does the promoter's agreement with the Water Bureau grant exclusive access
to the road during the event? If so, perhaps you could request help from
the on site security.
On Jun 19, 2014 2:51 PM, "Keith Wolff" wrote:

> Several people had asked the two skaters in this video link
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA5Renbxams to be safe and not just
> stake directly into oncoming racers. I shot this after asking them nicely
> at least once. I also asked an older couple say in their 60s who were out
> for a power walk to "please be careful of biker racers" as they were
> walking directly on the course and heading into oncoming racers from a
> trail. The man turned to me and yelled "you don't own the park". So there
> was that guy.
>
> Last week a women was running with the flow of the race in the middle of
> the course with her headphones on oblivious to her surroundings. Several
> people including me yelled and motioning at her with waving arms. She got
> out of the way in time then proceeded to yell at me for a good long while,
> long enough for me to learn that she has lived up close to the park for
> eight years and has never seen any bike racing. She also said she did not
> see anything that would indicate that there was a bike race going on.
> Several of us pointed out the orange signs, cones, course Marshals, as well
> as spectators yelling at her but that did not seem to sway her from
> storming off saying "I am going to go report you".
>
> There are some interesting perspectives out there.
>
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Adrian Richardson

I've been course marshaling for years now and this year i'm definitely
noticing an upswing of "zero fu**ks" given by pedestrians on the course.
You can only yell at them so many times and all it does is create a
resentment and continuing violations. In the last 3 weeks I've already
gotten into verbal tiffs with people, one lady who would not move from the
middle of the road and was yelling at me that "it's a public park and she
has a right to the road" (?!?! could be the same lady) also some skaters
who were complaining that, "everyone keeps yelling at me, I'm not a child I
can do what I want here" (pretty childish if you ask me)

Anyway.. This is also a perspective. I honestly feel that the more we yell
at people in the park the worse it's going to get. Last year I was on good
terms with the skaters and with mutual respect they would stop at the top
of the hill every time and chat with me. I almost thought some of these
skaters were going to start cheering..

Food for thought. Other than we really need a snow fence up top.

-A

On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Keith Wolff wrote:

> Several people had asked the two skaters in this video link
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA5Renbxams to be safe and not just
> stake directly into oncoming racers. I shot this after asking them nicely
> at least once. I also asked an older couple say in their 60s who were out
> for a power walk to "please be careful of biker racers" as they were
> walking directly on the course and heading into oncoming racers from a
> trail. The man turned to me and yelled "you don't own the park". So there
> was that guy.
>
> Last week a women was running with the flow of the race in the middle of
> the course with her headphones on oblivious to her surroundings. Several
> people including me yelled and motioning at her with waving arms. She got
> out of the way in time then proceeded to yell at me for a good long while,
> long enough for me to learn that she has lived up close to the park for
> eight years and has never seen any bike racing. She also said she did not
> see anything that would indicate that there was a bike race going on.
> Several of us pointed out the orange signs, cones, course Marshals, as well
> as spectators yelling at her but that did not seem to sway her from
> storming off saying "I am going to go report you".
>
> There are some interesting perspectives out there.
>
>
>
>
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Micros83..@aol.com

I really think Mt. Tabor is a race that could benefit from a lead
motorcycle. I have seen lots of close calls lately with strollers, dogs, etc.


Mike



In a message dated 6/19/2014 2:50:54 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
keithwolff@gmail.com writes:

Several people had asked the two skaters in this video link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA5Renbxams to be safe and not just stake directly
into oncoming racers. I shot this after asking them nicely at least once. I
also asked an older couple say in their 60s who were out for a power walk
to "please be careful of biker racers" as they were walking directly on the
course and heading into oncoming racers from a trail. The man turned to me
and yelled "you don't own the park". So there was that guy.

Last week a women was running with the flow of the race in the middle of
the course with her headphones on oblivious to her surroundings. Several
people including me yelled and motioning at her with waving arms. She got out
of the way in time then proceeded to yell at me for a good long while, long
enough for me to learn that she has lived up close to the park for eight
years and has never seen any bike racing. She also said she did not see
anything that would indicate that there was a bike race going on. Several of us
pointed out the orange signs, cones, course Marshals, as well as spectators
yelling at her but that did not seem to sway her from storming off saying
"I am going to go report you".

There are some interesting perspectives out there.

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Troy Sexton

The 4 field had 2 guys skating down at the start of the sprint last night.
They certainly disrupted the sprint, but now one went down (I think).

Last year I remember snow fencing at the hairpin at the top. It seems like
that would discourage the skaters from bombing from the top and onto the
course.

On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Keith Wolff wrote:

> Several people had asked the two skaters in this video link
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA5Renbxams to be safe and not just
> stake directly into oncoming racers. I shot this after asking them nicely
> at least once. I also asked an older couple say in their 60s who were out
> for a power walk to "please be careful of biker racers" as they were
> walking directly on the course and heading into oncoming racers from a
> trail. The man turned to me and yelled "you don't own the park". So there
> was that guy.
>
> Last week a women was running with the flow of the race in the middle of
> the course with her headphones on oblivious to her surroundings. Several
> people including me yelled and motioning at her with waving arms. She got
> out of the way in time then proceeded to yell at me for a good long while,
> long enough for me to learn that she has lived up close to the park for
> eight years and has never seen any bike racing. She also said she did not
> see anything that would indicate that there was a bike race going on.
> Several of us pointed out the orange signs, cones, course Marshals, as well
> as spectators yelling at her but that did not seem to sway her from
> storming off saying "I am going to go report you".
>
> There are some interesting perspectives out there.
>
>
>
>
>
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Keith Wolff

Several people had asked the two skaters in this video link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA5Renbxams to be safe and not just stake directly into oncoming racers. I shot this after asking them nicely at least once. I also asked an older couple say in their 60s who were out for a power walk to "please be careful of biker racers" as they were walking directly on the course and heading into oncoming racers from a trail. The man turned to me and yelled "you don't own the park". So there was that guy.

Last week a women was running with the flow of the race in the middle of the course with her headphones on oblivious to her surroundings. Several people including me yelled and motioning at her with waving arms. She got out of the way in time then proceeded to yell at me for a good long while, long enough for me to learn that she has lived up close to the park for eight years and has never seen any bike racing. She also said she did not see anything that would indicate that there was a bike race going on. Several of us pointed out the orange signs, cones, course Marshals, as well as spectators yelling at her but that did not seem to sway her from storming off saying "I am going to go report you".

There are some interesting perspectives out there.