out of category riders

Scott Jones

2015-04-11

Nina,

That's how it has been done in the past. DQ and appearing as such in the
results.

On Friday, April 10, 2015, niina jamsja via OBRA_Officials <
obra_officials@list.obra.org> wrote:

> Could you confirm that it will be a DQ (and will be appearing on the final
> results as such), and not that the rider will not be placed in the results
> at all?
> nj
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: OBRA_Officials [mailto:obra_officials-bounces@list.obra.org
> ] On Behalf Of T. Kenji Sugahara via OBRA_Officials
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 6:47 PM
> To: Julia Fudge; Officials Obra
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Officials] out of category riders
>
> There is absolutely no flexibility for officials to provide upgrades.
>
> Someone racing outside of category is a DQ.
>
> I've cc'ed the officials list as this is a good reminder.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Julia Fudge > wrote:
> > Is Matt Kline a Cat 3 or Cat 2? I got the pre-reg list for KVRR from
> > Scott and there is a Preston Kline listed with number 10371 in the
> > Pro-1-2 category. That license number is assigned to Matt Kline who
> > is listed as Cat 3. However, he has results from Gorge Roubaix in Men
> 1-2 Category.
> >
> >
> >
> > I’ve already had a question from a Cat 3 rider asking to ride with the
> > Pro-1-2 field because that’s where his teammates are racing and he
> > usually races Masters 1-2-3. I told him no of course, as categories
> > are assigned by OBRA and fields by promoter. Scott sent him to me
> > because he thought that the CR could “cat up” a rider. Huh? So it
> > appears there may be some “flexibility” being allowed out there, either
> inadvertently or on purpose.
> > I let Scott and Cameron know about the conversation with the rider and
> > that Cat 3 riders may not ride with the Pro-1-2 field.
> >
> >
> >
> > I’ve asked niina to check the Pro-1-2 list as soon as possible for
> > riders registered out of category, so we can get them out before the
> > start. Am I correct in assuming that someone racing out of category
> would be a DQ?
> > Anything else? Obviously, it’s something we should try to catch
> > before the start, but with the registration on paper primarily and
> > mostly day-of, it can be difficult. I will talk specifically with the
> > persons registering the
> > Pro-1-2 to check category on OBRA license. I hope it doesn’t turn out
> > to be a big problem, or am I making a mountain out of a molehill?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > Julia
>
>
>
> --
> Kenji Sugahara
> Executive Director
> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> Phone: 503-278-5550
> http://www.obra.org
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>
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>

--
Scott Jones
Sam Barlow High School
Educational Assistant - Special Education
Head Coach - Track & Field
Assistant Coach - Football
971.998.2132
*Go Bruins!*


Jordan

2015-04-11

Riding out of category is a DQ able offense but decision comes from CR.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 10, 2015, at 7:30 PM, niina jamsja via OBRA_Officials wrote:
>
> Could you confirm that it will be a DQ (and will be appearing on the final results as such), and not that the rider will not be placed in the results at all?
> nj
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: OBRA_Officials [mailto:obra_officials-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of T. Kenji Sugahara via OBRA_Officials
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 6:47 PM
> To: Julia Fudge; Officials Obra
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Officials] out of category riders
>
> There is absolutely no flexibility for officials to provide upgrades.
>
> Someone racing outside of category is a DQ.
>
> I've cc'ed the officials list as this is a good reminder.
>
>
>
>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Julia Fudge wrote:
>> Is Matt Kline a Cat 3 or Cat 2? I got the pre-reg list for KVRR from
>> Scott and there is a Preston Kline listed with number 10371 in the
>> Pro-1-2 category. That license number is assigned to Matt Kline who
>> is listed as Cat 3. However, he has results from Gorge Roubaix in Men 1-2 Category.
>>
>>
>>
>> I���ve already had a question from a Cat 3 rider asking to ride with the
>> Pro-1-2 field because that���s where his teammates are racing and he
>> usually races Masters 1-2-3. I told him no of course, as categories
>> are assigned by OBRA and fields by promoter. Scott sent him to me
>> because he thought that the CR could ���cat up��� a rider. Huh? So it
>> appears there may be some ���flexibility��� being allowed out there, either inadvertently or on purpose.
>> I let Scott and Cameron know about the conversation with the rider and
>> that Cat 3 riders may not ride with the Pro-1-2 field.
>>
>>
>>
>> I���ve asked niina to check the Pro-1-2 list as soon as possible for
>> riders registered out of category, so we can get them out before the
>> start. Am I correct in assuming that someone racing out of category would be a DQ?
>> Anything else? Obviously, it���s something we should try to catch
>> before the start, but with the registration on paper primarily and
>> mostly day-of, it can be difficult. I will talk specifically with the
>> persons registering the
>> Pro-1-2 to check category on OBRA license. I hope it doesn���t turn out
>> to be a big problem, or am I making a mountain out of a molehill?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Julia
>
>
>
> --
> Kenji Sugahara
> Executive Director
> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> Phone: 503-278-5550
> http://www.obra.org
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA_Officials mailing list
> OBRA_Officials@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra_officials
>
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA_Officials mailing list
> OBRA_Officials@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra_officials


T. Kenji Sugahara

2015-04-11

Confirm- DQ.

On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 7:30 PM, niina jamsja wrote:
> Could you confirm that it will be a DQ (and will be appearing on the final results as such), and not that the rider will not be placed in the results at all?
> nj
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: OBRA_Officials [mailto:obra_officials-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of T. Kenji Sugahara via OBRA_Officials
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 6:47 PM
> To: Julia Fudge; Officials Obra
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Officials] out of category riders
>
> There is absolutely no flexibility for officials to provide upgrades.
>
> Someone racing outside of category is a DQ.
>
> I've cc'ed the officials list as this is a good reminder.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Julia Fudge wrote:
>> Is Matt Kline a Cat 3 or Cat 2? I got the pre-reg list for KVRR from
>> Scott and there is a Preston Kline listed with number 10371 in the
>> Pro-1-2 category. That license number is assigned to Matt Kline who
>> is listed as Cat 3. However, he has results from Gorge Roubaix in Men 1-2 Category.
>>
>>
>>
>> I���ve already had a question from a Cat 3 rider asking to ride with the
>> Pro-1-2 field because that���s where his teammates are racing and he
>> usually races Masters 1-2-3. I told him no of course, as categories
>> are assigned by OBRA and fields by promoter. Scott sent him to me
>> because he thought that the CR could ���cat up��� a rider. Huh? So it
>> appears there may be some ���flexibility��� being allowed out there, either inadvertently or on purpose.
>> I let Scott and Cameron know about the conversation with the rider and
>> that Cat 3 riders may not ride with the Pro-1-2 field.
>>
>>
>>
>> I���ve asked niina to check the Pro-1-2 list as soon as possible for
>> riders registered out of category, so we can get them out before the
>> start. Am I correct in assuming that someone racing out of category would be a DQ?
>> Anything else? Obviously, it���s something we should try to catch
>> before the start, but with the registration on paper primarily and
>> mostly day-of, it can be difficult. I will talk specifically with the
>> persons registering the
>> Pro-1-2 to check category on OBRA license. I hope it doesn���t turn out
>> to be a big problem, or am I making a mountain out of a molehill?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>> Julia
>
>
>
> --
> Kenji Sugahara
> Executive Director
> Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
> Phone: 503-278-5550
> http://www.obra.org
> _______________________________________________
> OBRA_Officials mailing list
> OBRA_Officials@list.obra.org
> http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra_officials
>

--
Kenji Sugahara
Executive Director
Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
Phone: 503-278-5550
http://www.obra.org


niina jamsja

2015-04-11

Could you confirm that it will be a DQ (and will be appearing on the final results as such), and not that the rider will not be placed in the results at all?
nj

-----Original Message-----
From: OBRA_Officials [mailto:obra_officials-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of T. Kenji Sugahara via OBRA_Officials
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2015 6:47 PM
To: Julia Fudge; Officials Obra
Subject: Re: [OBRA Officials] out of category riders

There is absolutely no flexibility for officials to provide upgrades.

Someone racing outside of category is a DQ.

I've cc'ed the officials list as this is a good reminder.

On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Julia Fudge wrote:
> Is Matt Kline a Cat 3 or Cat 2? I got the pre-reg list for KVRR from
> Scott and there is a Preston Kline listed with number 10371 in the
> Pro-1-2 category. That license number is assigned to Matt Kline who
> is listed as Cat 3. However, he has results from Gorge Roubaix in Men 1-2 Category.
>
>
>
> I���ve already had a question from a Cat 3 rider asking to ride with the
> Pro-1-2 field because that���s where his teammates are racing and he
> usually races Masters 1-2-3. I told him no of course, as categories
> are assigned by OBRA and fields by promoter. Scott sent him to me
> because he thought that the CR could ���cat up��� a rider. Huh? So it
> appears there may be some ���flexibility��� being allowed out there, either inadvertently or on purpose.
> I let Scott and Cameron know about the conversation with the rider and
> that Cat 3 riders may not ride with the Pro-1-2 field.
>
>
>
> I���ve asked niina to check the Pro-1-2 list as soon as possible for
> riders registered out of category, so we can get them out before the
> start. Am I correct in assuming that someone racing out of category would be a DQ?
> Anything else? Obviously, it���s something we should try to catch
> before the start, but with the registration on paper primarily and
> mostly day-of, it can be difficult. I will talk specifically with the
> persons registering the
> Pro-1-2 to check category on OBRA license. I hope it doesn���t turn out
> to be a big problem, or am I making a mountain out of a molehill?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Julia

--
Kenji Sugahara
Executive Director
Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
Phone: 503-278-5550
http://www.obra.org
_______________________________________________
OBRA_Officials mailing list
OBRA_Officials@list.obra.org
http://list.obra.org/mailman/listinfo/obra_officials


T. Kenji Sugahara

2015-04-11

There is absolutely no flexibility for officials to provide upgrades.

Someone racing outside of category is a DQ.

I've cc'ed the officials list as this is a good reminder.

On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 6:15 PM, Julia Fudge wrote:
> Is Matt Kline a Cat 3 or Cat 2? I got the pre-reg list for KVRR from Scott
> and there is a Preston Kline listed with number 10371 in the Pro-1-2
> category. That license number is assigned to Matt Kline who is listed as
> Cat 3. However, he has results from Gorge Roubaix in Men 1-2 Category.
>
>
>
> I���ve already had a question from a Cat 3 rider asking to ride with the
> Pro-1-2 field because that���s where his teammates are racing and he usually
> races Masters 1-2-3. I told him no of course, as categories are assigned by
> OBRA and fields by promoter. Scott sent him to me because he thought that
> the CR could ���cat up��� a rider. Huh? So it appears there may be some
> ���flexibility��� being allowed out there, either inadvertently or on purpose.
> I let Scott and Cameron know about the conversation with the rider and that
> Cat 3 riders may not ride with the Pro-1-2 field.
>
>
>
> I���ve asked niina to check the Pro-1-2 list as soon as possible for riders
> registered out of category, so we can get them out before the start. Am I
> correct in assuming that someone racing out of category would be a DQ?
> Anything else? Obviously, it���s something we should try to catch before the
> start, but with the registration on paper primarily and mostly day-of, it
> can be difficult. I will talk specifically with the persons registering the
> Pro-1-2 to check category on OBRA license. I hope it doesn���t turn out to be
> a big problem, or am I making a mountain out of a molehill?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Julia

--
Kenji Sugahara
Executive Director
Oregon Bicycle Racing Association
Phone: 503-278-5550
http://www.obra.org