PDX Winter Commuter/Training tire feedback wanted

Rick Johnson

2015-09-08

Ah, the magic of Stan's works on clinchers too.
Personally I find tubes so 20th century - haven't needed them at all for
years.

On 9/7/2015 7:57 PM, Ben via OBRA wrote:
> Hah... correction: I rode it that far flat because it was the front and I hadn't put any Stan's in it. I've never had a disabling flat with Stan's in the tube.
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Hah... correction: I rode it that far flat because it was the front and I hadn't put any Stan's in it. I've never had a disabling flat with Stan's in the tube.


Rick Johnson

2015-09-08

You've been sniffing glue. You only rode it that far because you
couldn't change the tube.
:-D

On 9/7/2015 7:22 PM, Ben via OBRA wrote:
> And one of those I had to ride about 20 miles on the flattened tubular - which I did with no problems or damage to my rim. Try that with a clincher
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And one of those I had to ride about 20 miles on the flattened tubular - which I did with no problems or damage to my rim. Try that with a clincher


Vittoria Corsa Elite tubular...!

Only two punctures in about 3000 miles since I started rolling these as my everything-tire.


Aaron Leritz

2015-09-08

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On Sep 6, 2015, at 6:40 PM, Dolan Halbrook via OBRA wrote:

> Though expensive, I'm sold on the GP 4 seasons. Great balance of durability and wet weather grip.
>
> On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 10:58 AM Justin Watkins via OBRA wrote:
> The rainy season is just around the corner and I need to replace tires on the winter training bike. I have used gatorzkinz in the past with mixed results, good durability and so so puncture protection fro me but traction wasn't great. I read lots of reviews online and everyone has an opinion. I know there is likely some good local reviews and this has likely been discussed on here before but can't seem to find the older post, maybe I am mixing up forums.
>
> What do you all use for your winter training tires that gives you a good ride, puncture protection and good mileage? I tried some marathons a few years back and the ride quality was horrible and changing a tube if I had to in the rain/cold would of been inpossible, but I never had a flat. Looking for a more suitable tire for this winter season.
>
> So lets hear what you prefer!
>
> Go
>
> Thanks
> Justin
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Gregg Magnus

2015-09-07

I've switched to Specialized armadillos from the Contis. The GP 4 Season and Gator hardshell are good but not as flat resistant as the Specialized and the sidewalls seem to deteriorate faster then other tires. Armadillos have been the best flat resistant tire I've used and traction has been great as well. My only gripe is they are a TIGHT fitting tire no matter what rim I've put them on. Tread was re designed so I expect the traction will be even better then what was before.

http://www.specialized.com/us/en/ftb/road-tires/all-season-tires/all-condition-armadillo-elite

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> On Sep 6, 2015, at 18:56, Dan Anderson via OBRA wrote:
>
> +1
>
> From: Dolan Halbrook via OBRA
> To: Justin Watkins ; "obra@list.obra.org"
> Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 6:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] PDX Winter Commuter/Training tire feedback wanted
>
> Though expensive, I'm sold on the GP 4 seasons. Great balance of durability and wet weather grip.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 10:58 AM Justin Watkins via OBRA wrote:
> The rainy season is just around the corner and I need to replace tires on the winter training bike. I have used gatorzkinz in the past with mixed results, good durability and so so puncture protection fro me but traction wasn't great. I read lots of reviews online and everyone has an opinion. I know there is likely some good local reviews and this has likely been discussed on here before but can't seem to find the older post, maybe I am mixing up forums.
>
> What do you all use for your winter training tires that gives you a good ride, puncture protection and good mileage? I tried some marathons a few years back and the ride quality was horrible and changing a tube if I had to in the rain/cold would of been inpossible, but I never had a flat. Looking for a more suitable tire for this winter season.
>
> So lets hear what you prefer!
>
> Go
>
> Thanks
> Justin
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Dan Anderson

2015-09-07

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From: Dolan Halbrook via OBRA
To: Justin Watkins ; "obra@list.obra.org"
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] PDX Winter Commuter/Training tire feedback wanted

Though expensive, I'm sold on the GP 4 seasons. Great balance of durability and wet weather grip.

On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 10:58 AM Justin Watkins via OBRA wrote:

The rainy season is just around the corner and I need to replace tires on the winter training bike.  I have used gatorzkinz in the past with mixed results, good durability and so so puncture protection fro me but traction wasn't great. I read lots of reviews online and everyone has an opinion.  I know there is likely some good local reviews and this has likely been discussed on here before but can't seem to find the older post, maybe I am mixing up forums.

What do you all use for your winter training tires that gives you a good ride, puncture protection and good mileage?  I tried some marathons a few years back and the ride quality was horrible and changing a tube if I had to in the rain/cold would of been inpossible, but I never had a flat. Looking for a more suitable tire for this winter season.

So lets hear what you prefer!

Go

Thanks
Justin
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Dolan Halbrook

2015-09-07

Though expensive, I'm sold on the GP 4 seasons. Great balance of durability
and wet weather grip.

On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 10:58 AM Justin Watkins via OBRA
wrote:

> The rainy season is just around the corner and I need to replace tires on
> the winter training bike. I have used gatorzkinz in the past with mixed
> results, good durability and so so puncture protection fro me but traction
> wasn't great. I read lots of reviews online and everyone has an opinion. I
> know there is likely some good local reviews and this has likely been
> discussed on here before but can't seem to find the older post, maybe I am
> mixing up forums.
>
> What do you all use for your winter training tires that gives you a good
> ride, puncture protection and good mileage? I tried some marathons a few
> years back and the ride quality was horrible and changing a tube if I had
> to in the rain/cold would of been inpossible, but I never had a flat.
> Looking for a more suitable tire for this winter season.
>
> So lets hear what you prefer!
>
> Go
>
> Thanks
> Justin
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Bre Rue

2015-09-06

Hi Justin,

I had done a bit of testing and research last year and found that there are
two main categories to think about. One: puncture resistance. You are
commuting and doing base miles and don't want the hassle of changing a flat
every time you ride. I have found that the brand new All Condition
Armadillo Elite folding tire from specialized is one of the best tires I've
tried for winter riding. They have almost the same puncture protection
abilities as their Armadillo predecessor, without the garden hose
ride quality. With a weight of around 315g, 120tpi and a super grippy tread
that has small sipes to help cut through the water, they have a
surprisingly good road feel for a protection tire. I run 25's on my disc
brake Pinarello and have been quite happy with them. Second to that would
be the Marathon plus from Schwalbe but they don't quite ride as nice and
cut a little easier then the All Conditions.

The second set would be for those that are not commuting and are just
riding or training on their bike through the winter. Since you are not
usually riding through the high traffic parts of the city in the dark
trying to get to or from work you can generally choose a nicer tire as you
can usually see what you are running over and you can choose routs that
have pretty nice and/or cleaner roads. My top pic is the Continental
Grand-Prix 4 Seasons. With a super supple 330tpi casing and weighing only
240g, plus a pretty good protection layer they are hard to beat. My second
choice is the Vittoria Open Pave tires, but these seem to be discontinued
for this year. They are a bit more on the racy side while still being a
good solid tire that will stand up to PNW winter riding.

I typically change tires around to suit my needs for the ride I'm doing,
but I also keep my equipment really clean and well maintained all year
long, so it's pretty easy and clean to swap tires around. I'm a service
professional so I take a lot of pride in keeping a well running machine!

I hope that helps a bit. :)

Bre Rue
Service Manager @West End Bikes

On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Justin Watkins via OBRA wrote:

> The rainy season is just around the corner and I need to replace tires on
> the winter training bike. I have used gatorzkinz in the past with mixed
> results, good durability and so so puncture protection fro me but traction
> wasn't great. I read lots of reviews online and everyone has an opinion. I
> know there is likely some good local reviews and this has likely been
> discussed on here before but can't seem to find the older post, maybe I am
> mixing up forums.
>
> What do you all use for your winter training tires that gives you a good
> ride, puncture protection and good mileage? I tried some marathons a few
> years back and the ride quality was horrible and changing a tube if I had
> to in the rain/cold would of been inpossible, but I never had a flat.
> Looking for a more suitable tire for this winter season.
>
> So lets hear what you prefer!
>
> Go
>
> Thanks
> Justin
>
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Edward Rubin

2015-09-06

I like Panaracer Pasela PT folding bead tires for my commuter/ road
bike. Inexpensive, durable and in 700x32 surprisingly fast and
comfortable (I ride a CX bike on the road). If you don't like the skin
wall look the T-Serv is bacically the same tire tire.

On 9/6/2015 10:57 AM, Justin Watkins via OBRA wrote:
> The rainy season is just around the corner and I need to replace tires
> on the winter training bike. I have used gatorzkinz in the past with
> mixed results, good durability and so so puncture protection fro me
> but traction wasn't great. I read lots of reviews online and everyone
> has an opinion. I know there is likely some good local reviews and
> this has likely been discussed on here before but can't seem to find
> the older post, maybe I am mixing up forums.
>
> What do you all use for your winter training tires that gives you a
> good ride, puncture protection and good mileage? I tried some
> marathons a few years back and the ride quality was horrible and
> changing a tube if I had to in the rain/cold would of been inpossible,
> but I never had a flat. Looking for a more suitable tire for this
> winter season.
>
> So lets hear what you prefer!
>
> Go
>
> Thanks
> Justin
>
>
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Justin Watkins

2015-09-06

The rainy season is just around the corner and I need to replace tires on the winter training bike. I have used gatorzkinz in the past with mixed results, good durability and so so puncture protection fro me but traction wasn't great. I read lots of reviews online and everyone has an opinion. I know there is likely some good local reviews and this has likely been discussed on here before but can't seem to find the older post, maybe I am mixing up forums.

What do you all use for your winter training tires that gives you a good ride, puncture protection and good mileage? I tried some marathons a few years back and the ride quality was horrible and changing a tube if I had to in the rain/cold would of been inpossible, but I never had a flat. Looking for a more suitable tire for this winter season.

So lets hear what you prefer!

Go

Thanks
Justin