T. Kenji Sugahara
No go.
7.3 Bicycle and bicycle equipment
7.3.1 Bicycle propulsion Bicycles must be propelled by the rider���s
legs only. No stored propulsion mechanism is allowed.
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 11:56 PM, Rick Johnson via OBRA
wrote:
> Another interesting question - what will OBRA say when a promoter wants to
> put on an ebike race?
>
>
> Message from Johnson mobile HQ
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Mike Murray via OBRA
> Date: 10/27/2015 5:06 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: OBRA remailer
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Electric MTBs Coming to a Trail Near You Soon !
>
> This conversation has been interesting to me as I have to think that there
> are similarities between people on mountain bikes that don���t want electric
> assist mountain bikes and hikers who don���t want to see any bikes.
>
>
>
> Mike Murray
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>
> From: OBRA [mailto:obra-bounces@list.obra.org] On Behalf Of Rick Johnson via
> OBRA
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 08:55
> To: Matt Martel; Todd Mobley
> Cc: OBRA; Arlo
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Electric MTBs Coming to a Trail Near You Soon !
>
>
>
> Were it up to me -
>
> Rule: Non-motorized trails means no motors (electric or otherwise) allowed.
> Exception: Those with a documented physical disability may use electric
> assist with restrictions.
>
> Similar process of verification and identification as for handicapped
> parking.
> Strict limit on motor output power.
> Citations and fines for violators.
>
>
> We can't simply look at today and be complacent in that e-bikes are
> currently expensive, rare and limited in their power and range. All that
> will change as we move into the future.
>
> Better batteries will extend the e-bike range and more trail miles will
> become desirable to their users.
> Electric motors will become more powerful. There will be a greater impact on
> the trail quality and the trail maintenance necessary. Speed differentials
> will increase leading to more user conflicts.
> Cost will fall, bigger manufacturers will enter the market and the volume of
> e-bike users will increase exponentially.
>
>
> Is this the future you would like to see?
> Be aware, and care.
>
> Rick
>
> Rick Johnson
>
> Bend, Oregon
>
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>
> On 10/27/2015 8:02 AM, Matt Martel wrote:
>
> Of course there should always be some logical exceptions but I really hope
> the trails dont get overrun with e-bikes.
>
>
>
> - Matt
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Todd Mobley via OBRA
> wrote:
>
> I don't know, I rode in Boise recently with a guy that had an e-assist full
> suspension...and only one arm. The assist helps him climb, especially on
> technical stuff, because he can't stand and pedal. He's a rad dude.
>
> I guess there's an exception to every rule, but following him up the hill
> gave me some new perspective...
>
> -Todd
>
> Sent from mobile
>
> On Oct 26, 2015 8:16 PM, "Rick Johnson via OBRA" wrote:
>
> What is the device propelling an electric bike called?
> An electric motor.
>
> So it seems pretty simple to me: Non-motorized trail means no motor
> propelled vehicles.
>
> Rick
>
> Rick Johnson
>
> Bend, Oregon
>
>
>
> On 10/26/2015 6:47 PM, Eric Aldinger via OBRA wrote:
>
> Not sure I care, as long as they do not change the trail, and come to trail
> build days. I will not yield to someone using a motor, especially if they
> are not maintaining the trails.
>
> On Oct 26, 2015 5:47 PM, "via OBRA" wrote:
>
> In my opinion.....Electric powered bikes DO NOT BELONG on trails such as you
> were riding! I have told IMBA as much. If they gain official access to
> areas like you were riding, it makes what the anti- mountain bikers use as
> argument against our access........."they are machines". If a person can't
> use their own power to get them physical power to get them in or out of an
> area............they should not be there...unless there is special access
> like ADA. Not sure what official standing misc. groups are taking on this
> (and I do want people who desire to get outdoors into nature to have
> access), but human powered access is what mountain biking is about. The
> more riders focus on not riding UP hills, but down them, the up part gets
> harder for them....thus comes shuttle runs, ski lift etc. I may be old,
> but I still pedal my bike Arlo. Thanks for posting and if people do not
> want electric powered bikes out there, they should speak up before the
> anti-bikes on natural surfaces movement uses this for ammo.
> ron s.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Arlo via OBRA
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 1:50 PM
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Electric MTBs Coming to a Trail Near You Soon !
>
> about a week ago a rider came up behind me on the wilson river climb, which
> never happens, so I started to put work, he still gained, more work, finally
> he's behind me and I'm getting gassed so I pulled over like a gentleman. the
> first thing I noticed is he's not even breathing hard, or pedaling! He was
> on an electric assisted MTB! Not sure how everyone feels about sharing our
> limited local trails with these people but it is in fact against forrest
> rules in tillamook state forrest so if you report sightings the rangers they
> may do something. There are hundreds of miles of trails out there for
> motorized users and just a couple dozen for non-motorized use, so that's one
> way to look at it.
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