my 2 cents of how to get a wheel change

Splin-@aol.com

2004-03-05





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The origin of the custom is that the right brake lever is the rear brake for

most people so right hand = rear wheel. Conversely, the left lever controls

the front wheel; hence, left hand = front wheel. It has nothing to do with how

you approach the bike.



Splinter



In a message dated 03/05/2004 7:30:12 PM Pacific Standard Time,

br-@politesociety.com writes:

No Mark, you have it all wrong! It's Right hand for the Rear wheel and Left

hand for the front. Not Left hand for the front and right for the rear.

Get it straight or I may bring you the wrong wheel when you need it!

----- Original Message -----

From: markjgi-@yahoo.com

To: cmur-@obra.org ; philips-@comcast.net ; obra

Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 7:07 PM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] my 2 cents of how to get a wheel change





While not interested in starting a left/right flame war. I was always taught

to raise the left hand for the front wheel and right for back. the reasoning

being b/c when the mechanic approached from the left side, the front wheel was

at their left hand.



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<DIV>The origin of the custom is that the right brake lever is the rear brake for most people so right hand = rear wheel. Conversely, the left lever controls the front wheel; hence, left hand = front wheel. It has nothing to do with how you approach the bike. </DIV>

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<DIV>In a message dated 03/05/2004 7:30:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, br-@politesociety.com writes:</DIV>

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>No Mark, you have it all wrong! It's Right hand for the Rear wheel and Left hand for the front.  Not Left hand for the front and right for the rear.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Get it straight or I may bring you the wrong wheel when you need it!</FONT></DIV>

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>While not interested in starting a left/right flame war. I was always taught to raise the left hand for the front wheel and right for back. the reasoning being b/c when the mechanic approached from the left side, the front wheel was at their left hand.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>

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No Mark, you have it all wrong! It's Right hand for the Rear wheel and Left hand for the front. Not Left hand for the front and right for the rear.

Get it straight or I may bring you the wrong wheel when you need it!

----- Original Message -----

From: markjgi-@yahoo.com

To: cmur-@obra.org ; philips-@comcast.net ; obra

Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 7:07 PM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] my 2 cents of how to get a wheel change





While not interested in starting a left/right flame war. I was always taught to raise the left hand for the front wheel and right for back. the reasoning being b/c when the mechanic approached from the left side, the front wheel was at their left hand.



Have I always been backwards (on this issue?)?



Mark Ginsberg



Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn <cmur-@obra.org> wrote:



    Please don't assume that the wheel person even knows how to tell a rear from

    a front, you might have to do this all yourself!



    I never like to see a rider pass on the left. Catching back on should be

    done from the right

    Candi







    -----Original Message-----

    From: Philip Sanders [mailto:philips-@comcast.net]

    Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 3:26 PM

    To: OBRA

    Subject: [OBRA Chat] How





    This is a small "how to" for race support. The right side of the road is

    considered to be the "support lane". When a flat occurs, the rider raises

    their right hand for rear wheel support or the left hand for front wheel

    support. The rider should then ease out of the pack & go to the right side

    of the road and stop. When the hand goes up, the referee behind the pack

    will ease left & call for support. The rider should put the gears in the

    smallest rear cog and open the brake. For front wheel support, open the

    brake & only if you can beat support, then remove the front wheel. Support

    can then see the hand up & stops just behind the rider. Support should

    never stop in the middle of the traffic lane & the rider should never stop

    there either.

    After the wheel is on, quickly remount & the support person can push to get

    the rider going. Remaining standing over the bike may be a help to support

    depending on the circumstances.

    The referee & support cars should move to the right to allow overtaking

    riders to pass to the left of them.

    It is wise to examine tires before the race and to clean & check all

    functions. Dropped chains & adjustments are not supported.

    Don't forget to return support wheels.

    Thanks,

    Phil Sanders

    CR

    Banana Belts



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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>No Mark, you have it all wrong! It's Right hand for

the Rear wheel and Left hand for the front.  Not Left hand for the front

and right for the rear.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Get it straight or I may bring you the wrong wheel

when you need it!</FONT></DIV>

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<A title=mark-@yahoo.com

href="mailto:markjgi-@yahoo.com">markjgi-@yahoo.com</A> </DIV>

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href="mailto:cmur-@obra.org">cmur-@obra.org</A> ; <A

title=phil-@comcast.net

href="mailto:philips-@comcast.net">philips-@comcast.net</A> ; <A

title-@topica.com href="mailto:ob-@topica.com">obra</A> </DIV>

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PM</DIV>

<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OBRA Chat] my 2 cents of

how to get a wheel change</DIV>

<DIV><BR></DIV>

<DIV>While not interested in starting a left/right flame war. I was always

taught to raise the left hand for the front wheel and right for back. the

reasoning being b/c when the mechanic approached from the left side, the front

wheel was at their left hand.</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV>Have I always been backwards (on this issue?)?</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV>Mark Ginsberg<BR><BR><B><I>Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn <<A

href="mailto:cmur-@obra.org">cmur-@obra.org</A>></I></B> wrote:</DIV>

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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><BR>Please

    don't assume that the wheel person even knows how to tell a rear from<BR>a

    front, you might have to do this all yourself!<BR><BR>I never like to see a

    rider pass on the left. Catching back on should be<BR>done from the

    right<BR>Candi<BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Philip

    Sanders [mailto:philips-@comcast.net]<BR>Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004

    3:26 PM<BR>To: OBRA<BR>Subject: [OBRA Chat] How<BR><BR><BR>This is a small

    "how to" for race support. The right side of the road is<BR>considered to be

    the "support lane". When a flat occurs, the rider raises<BR>their right hand

    for rear wheel support or the left hand for front wheel<BR>support. The

    rider should then ease out of the pack & go to the right side<BR>of the

    road and stop. When the hand goes up, the referee behind the pack<BR>will

    ease left & call for support. The rider should put the gears in

    the<BR>smallest rear cog and open the brake. For front wheel support, open

    the<BR>brake & only if you can beat support, then remove the front

    wheel. Support<BR>can then see the hand up & stops just behind the

    rider. Support should<BR>never stop in the middle of the traffic lane &

    the rider should never stop<BR>there either.<BR>After the wheel is on,

    quickly remount & the support person can push to get<BR>the rider going.

    Remaining standing over the bike may be a help to support<BR>depending on

    the circumstances.<BR>The referee & support cars should move to the

    right to allow overtaking<BR>riders to pass to the left of them.<BR>It is

    wise to examine tires before the race and to clean & check

    all<BR>functions. Dropped chains & adjustments are not

    supported.<BR>Don't forget to return support wheels.<BR>Thanks,<BR>Phil

    Sanders<BR>CR<BR>Banana Belts<BR><BR>To respond to the whole group send to

    ob-@topica.com.<BR>To respond to the list manager send to

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While not interested in starting a left/right flame war. I was always taught to raise the left hand for the front wheel and right for back. the reasoning being b/c when the mechanic approached from the left side, the front wheel was at their left hand.



Have I always been backwards (on this issue?)?



Mark Ginsberg



Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn <cmur-@obra.org> wrote:



Please don't assume that the wheel person even knows how to tell a rear from

a front, you might have to do this all yourself!



I never like to see a rider pass on the left. Catching back on should be

done from the right

Candi







-----Original Message-----

From: Philip Sanders [mailto:philips-@comcast.net]

Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 3:26 PM

To: OBRA

Subject: [OBRA Chat] How





This is a small "how to" for race support. The right side of the road is

considered to be the "support lane". When a flat occurs, the rider raises

their right hand for rear wheel support or the left hand for front wheel

support. The rider should then ease out of the pack & go to the right side

of the road and stop. When the hand goes up, the referee behind the pack

will ease left & call for support. The rider should put the gears in the

smallest rear cog and open the brake. For front wheel support, open the

brake & only if you can beat support, then remove the front wheel. Support

can then see the hand up & stops just behind the rider. Support should

never stop in the middle of the traffic lane & the rider should never stop

there either.

After the wheel is on, quickly remount & the support person can push to get

the rider going. Remaining standing over the bike may be a help to support

depending on the circumstances.

The referee & support cars should move to the right to allow overtaking

riders to pass to the left of them.

It is wise to examine tires before the race and to clean & check all

functions. Dropped chains & adjustments are not supported.

Don't forget to return support wheels.

Thanks,

Phil Sanders

CR

Banana Belts



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<DIV>While not interested in starting a left/right flame war. I was always taught to raise the left hand for the front wheel and right for back. the reasoning being b/c when the mechanic approached from the left side, the front wheel was at their left hand.</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV>Have I always been backwards (on this issue?)?</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV>Mark Ginsberg<BR><BR><B><I>Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn <cmur-@obra.org></I></B> wrote:</DIV>

<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><BR>Please don't assume that the wheel person even knows how to tell a rear from<BR>a front, you might have to do this all yourself!<BR><BR>I never like to see a rider pass on the left. Catching back on should be<BR>done from the right<BR>Candi<BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Philip Sanders [mailto:philips-@comcast.net]<BR>Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 3:26 PM<BR>To: OBRA<BR>Subject: [OBRA Chat] How<BR><BR><BR>This is a small "how to" for race support. The right side of the road is<BR>considered to be the "support lane". When a flat occurs, the rider raises<BR>their right hand for rear wheel support or the left hand for front wheel<BR>support. The rider should then ease out of the pack & go to the right side<BR>of the road and stop. When the hand goes up, the referee behind the pack<BR>will ease left & call for support. The rider should put the gears in

the<BR>smallest rear cog and open the brake. For front wheel support, open the<BR>brake & only if you can beat support, then remove the front wheel. Support<BR>can then see the hand up & stops just behind the rider. Support should<BR>never stop in the middle of the traffic lane & the rider should never stop<BR>there either.<BR>After the wheel is on, quickly remount & the support person can push to get<BR>the rider going. Remaining standing over the bike may be a help to support<BR>depending on the circumstances.<BR>The referee & support cars should move to the right to allow overtaking<BR>riders to pass to the left of them.<BR>It is wise to examine tires before the race and to clean & check all<BR>functions. Dropped chains & adjustments are not supported.<BR>Don't forget to return support wheels.<BR>Thanks,<BR>Phil Sanders<BR>CR<BR>Banana Belts<BR><BR>To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.<BR>To respond to the list manager send to

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Please don't assume that the wheel person even knows how to tell a rear from

a front, you might have to do this all yourself!



I never like to see a rider pass on the left. Catching back on should be

done from the right

Candi







-----Original Message-----

From: Philip Sanders [mailto:philips-@comcast.net]

Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 3:26 PM

To: OBRA

Subject: [OBRA Chat] How





This is a small "how to" for race support. The right side of the road is

considered to be the "support lane". When a flat occurs, the rider raises

their right hand for rear wheel support or the left hand for front wheel

support. The rider should then ease out of the pack & go to the right side

of the road and stop. When the hand goes up, the referee behind the pack

will ease left & call for support. The rider should put the gears in the

smallest rear cog and open the brake. For front wheel support, open the

brake & only if you can beat support, then remove the front wheel. Support

can then see the hand up & stops just behind the rider. Support should

never stop in the middle of the traffic lane & the rider should never stop

there either.

After the wheel is on, quickly remount & the support person can push to get

the rider going. Remaining standing over the bike may be a help to support

depending on the circumstances.

The referee & support cars should move to the right to allow overtaking

riders to pass to the left of them.

It is wise to examine tires before the race and to clean & check all

functions. Dropped chains & adjustments are not supported.

Don't forget to return support wheels.

Thanks,

Phil Sanders

CR

Banana Belts



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