Re: Suspected Spam: Re: my 2 cents of how to get a wheel change

Dave Palmer

2004-03-05



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Mark,



You're correct on which hand for which wheel, but I don't think it's because of which wheel is in a mechanics hand. It's that way because you brake the front wheel with the left hand, and the rear with the right hand. ( Unless you're switched up for Cross, then you're changing your wheel in the pits only, so it doesn't matter.)



Dave

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Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 7:07 PM

Subject: Suspected Spam: Re: [OBRA Chat] my 2 cents of how to get a wheel change





While not interested in starting a left/right flame war. I was always taught to raise the left hand for the front wheel and right for back. the reasoning being b/c when the mechanic approached from the left side, the front wheel was at their left hand.



Have I always been backwards (on this issue?)?



Mark Ginsberg



Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn <cmur-@obra.org> wrote:



    Please don't assume that the wheel person even knows how to tell a rear from

    a front, you might have to do this all yourself!



    I never like to see a rider pass on the left. Catching back on should be

    done from the right

    Candi







    -----Original Message-----

    From: Philip Sanders [mailto:philips-@comcast.net]

    Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 3:26 PM

    To: OBRA

    Subject: [OBRA Chat] How





    This is a small "how to" for race support. The right side of the road is

    considered to be the "support lane". When a flat occurs, the rider raises

    their right hand for rear wheel support or the left hand for front wheel

    support. The rider should then ease out of the pack & go to the right side

    of the road and stop. When the hand goes up, the referee behind the pack

    will ease left & call for support. The rider should put the gears in the

    smallest rear cog and open the brake. For front wheel support, open the

    brake & only if you can beat support, then remove the front wheel. Support

    can then see the hand up & stops just behind the rider. Support should

    never stop in the middle of the traffic lane & the rider should never stop

    there either.

    After the wheel is on, quickly remount & the support person can push to get

    the rider going. Remaining standing over the bike may be a help to support

    depending on the circumstances.

    The referee & support cars should move to the right to allow overtaking

    riders to pass to the left of them.

    It is wise to examine tires before the race and to clean & check all

    functions. Dropped chains & adjustments are not supported.

    Don't forget to return support wheels.

    Thanks,

    Phil Sanders

    CR

    Banana Belts



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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You're correct on which hand for which wheel, but I

don't think it's because of which wheel is in a mechanics hand. It's that way

because you brake the front wheel with the left hand, and the rear with the

right hand. ( Unless you're switched up for Cross, then you're changing your

wheel in the pits only, so it doesn't matter.)</FONT></DIV>

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave</FONT></DIV></DIV>

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<DIV>While not interested in starting a left/right flame war. I was always

taught to raise the left hand for the front wheel and right for back. the

reasoning being b/c when the mechanic approached from the left side, the front

wheel was at their left hand.</DIV>

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<DIV>Have I always been backwards (on this issue?)?</DIV>

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<DIV>Mark Ginsberg<BR><BR><B><I>Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn <<A

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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"><BR>Please

    don't assume that the wheel person even knows how to tell a rear from<BR>a

    front, you might have to do this all yourself!<BR><BR>I never like to see a

    rider pass on the left. Catching back on should be<BR>done from the

    right<BR>Candi<BR><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Philip

    Sanders [mailto:philips-@comcast.net]<BR>Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004

    3:26 PM<BR>To: OBRA<BR>Subject: [OBRA Chat] How<BR><BR><BR>This is a small

    "how to" for race support. The right side of the road is<BR>considered to be

    the "support lane". When a flat occurs, the rider raises<BR>their right hand

    for rear wheel support or the left hand for front wheel<BR>support. The

    rider should then ease out of the pack & go to the right side<BR>of the

    road and stop. When the hand goes up, the referee behind the pack<BR>will

    ease left & call for support. The rider should put the gears in

    the<BR>smallest rear cog and open the brake. For front wheel support, open

    the<BR>brake & only if you can beat support, then remove the front

    wheel. Support<BR>can then see the hand up & stops just behind the

    rider. Support should<BR>never stop in the middle of the traffic lane &

    the rider should never stop<BR>there either.<BR>After the wheel is on,

    quickly remount & the support person can push to get<BR>the rider going.

    Remaining standing over the bike may be a help to support<BR>depending on

    the circumstances.<BR>The referee & support cars should move to the

    right to allow overtaking<BR>riders to pass to the left of them.<BR>It is

    wise to examine tires before the race and to clean & check

    all<BR>functions. Dropped chains & adjustments are not

    supported.<BR>Don't forget to return support wheels.<BR>Thanks,<BR>Phil

    Sanders<BR>CR<BR>Banana Belts<BR><BR>To respond to the whole group send to

    ob-@topica.com.<BR>To respond to the list manager send to

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