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JOHN FORBES

2004-03-16

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ettiquetteWear something, unless it's cross season or the final PIR.

John Forbes

503-331-6658

2126 NE 12th Ave.

Portland, OR 97212

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From: Schreck, George

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Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 1:33 PM

Subject: [OBRA Chat] ettiquette

Before everyone gets up in arms, knowing Peter, I would find it hard to believe that he would be rude about it. Peter is always willing to work with people to make this a better sport. How do you expect someone to learn if someone does not take the time to tell you when you have made a mistake? All Peter did was point out what it meant and the error. I suppose you kinder souls would have looked the other way and let the kid continue to make the error. It does not sound particularly kind to me though.

As for wearing team jerseys, the manufacturers sell them so people can ride around in them. They are not sold for the purpose of being worn in a race unless you are on the team. If you bought one fine. Wear it riding around, to work, to bed, to your wedding or funeral, but that does not necessarily mean you get to race in it. Racing is a team sport, and for that reason we have team jerseys. The analogy to the Packers jersey is way off point. You can wear you Packers jersey or any other jersey to a game, but they are not going to let you play on the field. You can wear your Cipo jersey to a race, but you should not expect to race in it. Sports have rules and traditions, and if you want to participate, you should respect the sport and abide by them. It is not supposed to be a free for all.

Granted, we are not taking about a capital crime, but there is no harm in pointing it out so long as discretion is used and the message is polite.



 George Schreck

 Phone: (503) 813-7211

 Fax: (503) 813-7190



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<DIV>Wear something, unless it's cross season or the final PIR.</DIV>

<DIV>John Forbes 503-331-6658 2126 NE 12th Ave. Portland, OR

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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">From: <A

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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 1:33

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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: [OBRA Chat] ettiquette</DIV>

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Before everyone gets up in arms, knowing Peter, I

would find it hard to believe that he would be rude about it. Peter is

always willing to work with people to make this a better sport.

How do you expect someone to learn if someone does not take the time to tell

you when you have made a mistake? All Peter did was point out what it

meant and the error. I suppose you kinder souls would have looked the other

way and let the kid continue to make the error. It does not sound

particularly kind to me though.

As for wearing team jerseys, the manufacturers sell

them so people can ride around in them. They are not sold for the

purpose of being worn in a race unless you are on the team. If you

bought one fine. Wear it riding around, to work, to bed, to your wedding

or funeral, but that does not necessarily mean you get to race in it.

Racing is a team sport, and for that reason we have team jerseys. The

analogy to the Packers jersey is way off point. You can wear you Packers

jersey or any other jersey to a game, but they are not going to let you play

on the field. You can wear your Cipo jersey to a race, but you should

not expect to race in it. Sports have rules and traditions, and if you

want to participate, you should respect the sport and abide by them. It

is not supposed to be a free for all.

Granted, we are not taking about a capital crime,

but there is no harm in pointing it out so long as discretion is used and the

message is polite. 

 George

Schreck Phone: (503)

813-7211 

Fax: (503) 813-7190 

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dan davis

2004-03-16

hi all

first off sorry for the spelling of stars and stripes and Ettiquette.

i did not name names because i did not know his name, Peter did that by

his E-mail

i just wanted everyone to know how we can sound some times.

ride hard and have fun!!!

dan...

Schreck, George

2004-03-16

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Before everyone gets up in arms, knowing Peter, I would find it hard to

believe that he would be rude about it. Peter is always willing to work

with people to make this a better sport. How do you expect someone to

learn if someone does not take the time to tell you when you have made a

mistake? All Peter did was point out what it meant and the error. I suppose

you kinder souls would have looked the other way and let the kid continue to

make the error. It does not sound particularly kind to me though.

As for wearing team jerseys, the manufacturers sell them so people can ride

around in them. They are not sold for the purpose of being worn in a race

unless you are on the team. If you bought one fine. Wear it riding around,

to work, to bed, to your wedding or funeral, but that does not necessarily

mean you get to race in it. Racing is a team sport, and for that reason we

have team jerseys. The analogy to the Packers jersey is way off point. You

can wear you Packers jersey or any other jersey to a game, but they are not

going to let you play on the field. You can wear your Cipo jersey to a

race, but you should not expect to race in it. Sports have rules and

traditions, and if you want to participate, you should respect the sport and

abide by them. It is not supposed to be a free for all.

Granted, we are not taking about a capital crime, but there is no harm in

pointing it out so long as discretion is used and the message is polite.



 George Schreck

 Phone: (503) 813-7211

 Fax: (503) 813-7190

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Before everyone gets up in arms, knowing Peter, I would find it hard to believe that he would be rude about it. Peter is always willing to work with people to make this a better sport. How do you expect someone to learn if someone does not take the time to tell you when you have made a mistake? All Peter did was point out what it meant and the error. I suppose you kinder souls would have looked the other way and let the kid continue to make the error. It does not sound particularly kind to me though.

As for wearing team jerseys, the manufacturers sell them so people can ride around in them. They are not sold for the purpose of being worn in a race unless you are on the team. If you bought one fine. Wear it riding around, to work, to bed, to your wedding or funeral, but that does not necessarily mean you get to race in it. Racing is a team sport, and for that reason we have team jerseys. The analogy to the Packers jersey is way off point. You can wear you Packers jersey or any other jersey to a game, but they are not going to let you play on the field. You can wear your Cipo jersey to a race, but you should not expect to race in it. Sports have rules and traditions, and if you want to participate, you should respect the sport and abide by them. It is not supposed to be a free for all.

Granted, we are not taking about a capital crime, but there is no harm in pointing it out so long as discretion is used and the message is polite. 

 

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