Ron Strasser

you can get nice merino glove liners that work well under the REI brand at the co-op. no fancy name...just merino best quality function.
ron s.

From: paul bourcier via OBRA
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2018 6:29 PM
To: Eric Aldinger
Cc: obra ; Christophe
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] recommended glove liners

I have had success w Craft liners from the past. They are super thin and made from Merlo wool. I don't think they make them any more but you might find some on eBay.

I would also look into electronic options. After racing back east, I have become a real fan of hot toes w the adhesive backing. You adhere them to the glove behind the back side of your hand. The key is to let them warm up for an hour in your glove before going for a ride. The only down side is they don't work if they get wet as in soaked gloves. Above your toes in your shoes is wonderful as well.

On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 12:13 AM Eric Aldinger via OBRA wrote:

OR and Dakine

Second option Ibex is going out of business and has liners cheap. But they arw ski liners for sure.

On Jan 1, 2018 4:22 PM, "Christophe via OBRA" wrote:

"Got a little nippy going through the pass, huh Hare" ???

Ok... just had to get the dumb and dumber quote in there for laughs.

Wondering if yall have any < 30 degree ideal liners to go inside my "cold weather" riding gloves. Not sure if old age or just never used to notice, but seems fingers are getting a bit colder these days, so think it's time for a good set of liners and would appreciate some real world use recommendations.

Thanks!
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paul bourcier

I have had success w Craft liners from the past. They are super thin and
made from Merlo wool. I don't think they make them any more but you might
find some on eBay.

I would also look into electronic options. After racing back east, I have
become a real fan of hot toes w the adhesive backing. You adhere them to
the glove behind the back side of your hand. The key is to let them warm up
for an hour in your glove before going for a ride. The only down side is
they don't work if they get wet as in soaked gloves. Above your toes in
your shoes is wonderful as well.

On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 12:13 AM Eric Aldinger via OBRA
wrote:

> OR and Dakine
>
> Second option Ibex is going out of business and has liners cheap. But they
> arw ski liners for sure.
>
> On Jan 1, 2018 4:22 PM, "Christophe via OBRA" wrote:
>
>> "Got a little nippy going through the pass, huh Hare" ???
>>
>> Ok... just had to get the dumb and dumber quote in there for laughs.
>>
>> Wondering if yall have any < 30 degree ideal liners to go inside my "cold
>> weather" riding gloves. Not sure if old age or just never used to notice,
>> but seems fingers are getting a bit colder these days, so think it's time
>> for a good set of liners and would appreciate some real world use
>> recommendations.
>>
>> Thanks!
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OR and Dakine

Second option Ibex is going out of business and has liners cheap. But they
arw ski liners for sure.

On Jan 1, 2018 4:22 PM, "Christophe via OBRA" wrote:

> "Got a little nippy going through the pass, huh Hare" ???
>
> Ok... just had to get the dumb and dumber quote in there for laughs.
>
> Wondering if yall have any < 30 degree ideal liners to go inside my "cold
> weather" riding gloves. Not sure if old age or just never used to notice,
> but seems fingers are getting a bit colder these days, so think it's time
> for a good set of liners and would appreciate some real world use
> recommendations.
>
> Thanks!
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Dead Man

btw - hows your blood pressure? as mine has gotten worse, ive also suffered from vasoconstriction from overproduction of angiotensin II, a vasoconstrictor that causes elevated blood pressure and a number of other vasoconstrictive symptoms (hows your boner working?). i was resistant to taking the beta blocker my previous doctor wanted to get me on, but in doing my own research on high BP i read about ACE (angiotensin converting enzyme) inhibitors and how theyre actually specifically indicated for athletes as they arent diuretics or have really any negative side effects, are super well tolerated.. got a new doctor and got on Licinopril.. within 48 hours my BP was normal and my neck and shoulder tension went away and a whole bundle of other minor but collectively life-quality reducing symptoms basically vanished. after a couple weeks i even noticed my migraines of ever-increasing frequency were gone - been like a couple months now and i havent had a migraine yet, nor the almost constant feeling that i could only weakly describe as "pressure" in my head.

and my previous doctor used to tell me "no, you cant 'feel' high blood pressure." ya, ya you can.. at least when its this type. dude was a hack.

so if you have vasoconstrictive symptoms like cold-induced blood constriction in the hands (google "raynaud phenomenon"), severe muscle tension in the shoulders/neck, ED, difficulty urinating, etc.... might wanna explore this

Dead Man

i dont know if theyd fit inside any kind of riding glove, but ive been a longtime user and fan of Outdoor Research "Backstopper" liners for cold weather with high cardio output sports, as stand alone gloves. windproof, cheap at $30, good dexterity, and fit easily inside shell or even insulated mitts when at rest or when its just so damn cold single piece will do.

very versatile

Christophe

"Got a little nippy going through the pass, huh Hare" ???

Ok... just had to get the dumb and dumber quote in there for laughs.

Wondering if yall have any < 30 degree ideal liners to go inside my "cold weather" riding gloves. Not sure if old age or just never used to notice, but seems fingers are getting a bit colder these days, so think it's time for a good set of liners and would appreciate some real world use recommendations.

Thanks!