Adams, Mike

I am so tired of this wheel discussion. A buck is not a lot to ask to get a premiere program like this funded now and into the future. However one chooses to donate, do it and race. It is a small price to pay.

Mike Adams



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Steve-@clark.wa.gov [mailto:Steve-@clark.wa.gov]:

"I don't think the dollar should be waved, even if you do bring wheels,

until the program has finally caught up to it's deficit in spending"



People can, of course, feel free to continue to pay even if they put wheels

in. In fact OBRA can always handle more donations as money is one of the

few things that you can't have too much of. Donations to OBRA, by the way,

may be tax deductible since OBRA has 501(c)(3) status. What is more

important is to establish an ongoing revenue stream associated with the

wheel program and, at the same time, encourage people to continue to bring

their own wheels for support.



Steve also asks:

"How are these advertisements getting at the tops of all the post all of a

sudden?"



Topica sent around a notice on this subject announcing that there was going

to be this change. They sell the advertisements and it is the cost that we

bear in order to have the list serve available at no cost to us. Topica has

elected to put these ads at the top, no doubt in an attempt to make them

more valuable to the purchasers of the ads. To date, we have not found a

more attractive way of hosting the OBRA list.



Mike Murray



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Steve-@clark.wa.gov [mailto:Steve-@clark.wa.gov]:

"I don't think the dollar should be waved, even if you do bring wheels,

until the program has finally caught up to it's deficit in spending"



People can, of course, feel free to continue to pay even if they put wheels

in. In fact OBRA can always handle more donations as money is one of the

few things that you can't have too much of. Donations to OBRA, by the way,

may be tax deductible since OBRA has 501(c)(3) status. What is more

important is to establish an ongoing revenue stream associated with the

wheel program and, at the same time, encourage people to continue to bring

their own wheels for support.



Steve also asks:

"How are these advertisements getting at the tops of all the post all of a

sudden?"



Topica sent around a notice on this subject announcing that there was going

to be this change. They sell the advertisements and it is the cost that we

bear in order to have the list serve available at no cost to us. Topica has

elected to put these ads at the top, no doubt in an attempt to make them

more valuable to the purchasers of the ads. To date, we have not found a

more attractive way of hosting the OBRA list.



Mike Murray

Steve-@clark.wa.gov

I don't think the dollar should be waved, even if you do bring wheels, until

the program has finally caught up to it's deficit in spending



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The wheel car did not show up at the race today because Roger's car broke

down on the way there. Although his car does look cool with all the wheels

on it, it is not that unexpected that it would break down since it has about

300,000 miles on it (literally). This does emphasis how important it is

that people bring wheels and not depend only on the OBRA wheels. It also

demonstrates the costs of the program, one of the costs being covering the

transport of wheels to the event. It is understandable that people might be

bothered by paying $1 today and not having the wheels available but I would

urge them to realize that it is not a $1 payment for a specific service on a

specific day but rather contributing to covering the costs of a program that

many people seem to appreciate.



For this coming weekend the Piece of Cake RR will not be using the OBRA

wheels. There will be no $1 charge. Riders should bring wheels to put into

follow vehicles. For future events the plan will be that if the OBRA wheels

are going to be used all riders will pay $1 which will be waived if you

provide a set of wheels for the follow vehicle.



Mike Murray



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The wheel car did not show up at the race today because Roger's car broke

down on the way there. Although his car does look cool with all the wheels

on it, it is not that unexpected that it would break down since it has about

300,000 miles on it (literally). This does emphasis how important it is

that people bring wheels and not depend only on the OBRA wheels. It also

demonstrates the costs of the program, one of the costs being covering the

transport of wheels to the event. It is understandable that people might be

bothered by paying $1 today and not having the wheels available but I would

urge them to realize that it is not a $1 payment for a specific service on a

specific day but rather contributing to covering the costs of a program that

many people seem to appreciate.



For this coming weekend the Piece of Cake RR will not be using the OBRA

wheels. There will be no $1 charge. Riders should bring wheels to put into

follow vehicles. For future events the plan will be that if the OBRA wheels

are going to be used all riders will pay $1 which will be waived if you

provide a set of wheels for the follow vehicle.



Mike Murray