Mike Albright
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Mike Albright
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> 1. Re: Question, Canyon bikes (Eric Aldinger via OBRA)
> 2. Re: Question, Canyon bikes (Michael via OBRA)
> 3. Re: Question, Canyon bikes (Michael via OBRA)
> 4. FS Pearl Izumi P.R.O. Pursuit Jersey (Russ via OBRA)
> 5. Co-motion bicycle case -- free (JEFFREY via OBRA)
> 6. FS; Specialized PRO Carbon MTB shoes (womens 42)
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> 7. Running (Michael Gallagher via OBRA)
> 8. OBRA XC State Champs (Mike Ripley via OBRA)
> 9. Start List for XC Champs (Mike Ripley via OBRA)
> 10. FS: Specialized Stumpjumper Expert Carbon EVO 29
> (Troy Meeker via OBRA)
> 11. Canyon (Eric via OBRA)
> 12. Canyon (Bennett Shane via OBRA)
> 13. Canyon (Bennett Shane via OBRA)
> 14. Online Retail Trouble! (Michael Ybaben via OBRA)
> 15. Re: Question, Canyon bikes (ron s. via OBRA)
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 00:17:47 -0700
> From: Eric Aldinger via OBRA
> To: david jackson
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> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Question, Canyon bikes
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> You may find better answers on the buy direct brands on Pinkbike.
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> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 10:30 PM david jackson via OBRA
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> Has anyone recently ordered a frame or complete bike from Canyon?
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> Thanks,
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> Thank you, well said.
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> From: gregory rouse via OBRA
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 9:11 PM
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> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Question, Canyon bikes
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> As a 47-year-old independent bicycle dealer, Peak Sports respectfully disagrees with the opinion that consumer direct brands don't support local businesses. We are in the business of servicing bicycles, whether they were purchased from our shop or not. Short of an actual safety or liability issue, we welcome all brands of bicycles & parts into our workshop - as we always have. If we cannot order parts necessary to complete a repair properly, as may be the case for consumer direct brands such as Canyon or YT, we will work with the bike's owner to procure parts as needed. Peak Sports has invested heavily in expanding and updating our workshop to reflect the future of bicycle retail, with more space, more staff, more tools, and more training. As a business and as cyclists, we're invested in growing the sport and growing with the sport.
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> From: OBRA on behalf of Bre Rue via OBRA
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 6:20 AM
> To: jackson_davidj@hotmail.com
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> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Question, Canyon bikes
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> Hi, just for an FYI in regards to Canyon.
> Per their business model they do not support local business or service This makes it impossible for independent bike shops to properly support Canyons (or most any other direct only company) due in part to the inability to procure parts and service assistance, and the liability working on such a companies product would open the independent shop open to. You may find that many local bike shops are unwilling to open themselves up to such liability in the future.
> As the Service Manager for West End Bikes, I cannot and will not allow my service department to work on any and all Canyon Products. While this decision is very hard for me to make because after 30 years of being a mechanic I still absolutely love bikes and helping to keep others out enjoying what I love! I would absolutely hate having to tell you I couldn't get your bike fixed for your big event, after it fell over and the derailleur hanger was bent. Or the propitiatory cable guide or headset piece broke and you had to contact Germany to get a replacement part and you have to wait weeks to get it fixed. It really bothers me when I am powerless to help my customers and friends, so I've had to make this my official stance.
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> Thank you for understanding and thought in regards to your buying decision.
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> Bre
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> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 10:30 PM david jackson via OBRA wrote:
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> Has anyone recently ordered a frame or complete bike from Canyon?
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> Thanks,
> David
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> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Question, Canyon bikes
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> Also, it’s not they don’t use totally normal parts and components top to bottom. 95% of the parts and components on ANY modern bicycle are readily off the shelf items, or can easily be replaced with an off the shelf item quickly. There’s absolutely no reason to not service someone’s bicycle. If it was 25 years old and you had no idea where to get parts, that would be one thing, but a brand new state of the art bike? Your just losing revenue and turning away customers, that will be much less likely to come back for other items like tubes, tires, gels, chains, etc.
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> From: Rick Johnson via OBRA
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 9:25 PM
> To: Joe Cipale
> Cc: Obra email
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Question, Canyon bikes
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> It will be easier to just watch and see which bike shops are still around a few years after they announce they'll discriminate based on the product choices of their customers.
>
>
> On 7/23/2018 4:22 PM, Joe Cipale via OBRA wrote:
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> Tell ya what Justin,
>
> Open up your own bike shop as you imagine it should work and get back to us in a couple of years.
>
> Joe
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> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018, 8:38 AM Manville via OBRA wrote:
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> 1) what “liability”? Would West End bikes work on my Breadwinner or DeSalvo?
>
> 2) Canyon has a huge warehouse in Chico, CA. Parts in 2 days is my guess.
>
> 3) Bike shops live and die off of service; not sales
>
> I don’t own a Canyon but the price point makes them very attractive. The bike shop might need to reimagine itself; not a bad thing IMO.
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> Subject: [OBRA Chat] FS Pearl Izumi P.R.O. Pursuit Jersey
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> For sale: Pearl Izumi P.R.O. Pursuit Speed Jersey. Size Men's Medium. Price $55. Color Atomic Blue.
> This is a really nice Summer Jersey. I ordered the wrong size. Still has the tags on.
> Link here: https://www.pearlizumi.com/US/en/Shop/Ride/Road/Men's/Apparel/Tops/Jerseys/Jerseys/Men's_P.R.O._Pursuit_Speed_Jersey/p/111218175SP
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> Contact me off chat if you're interested.
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> Message: 5
> From: JEFFREY via OBRA
> To:
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Co-motion bicycle case -- free
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> I have a used co-motion bicycle case that is still functional but worn. I am getting a new one and Dwan suggested that I post on OBRA to see if anyone would like to have my old one. It's the soft case, airline legal and I put new roller skate wheels on it (installed by Portland luggage). The case is in Eugene.
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 10:57:48 -0700
> From: Joseph Tysoe via OBRA
> To: OBRA
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] FS; Specialized PRO Carbon MTB shoes (womens 42)
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> I bought these a couple of years ago hoping they'd fit (I'm a 41.5 to 42 in
> Specialized mens road)) but unfortunately they're a touch small.
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> They have brand new red BG footbeds if you need them.
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> Might have been used 10x if that.
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> $64.93 or trade for a Mens pair of Specialized MTB shoes in 42?
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 11:07:48 -0700
> From: Michael Gallagher via OBRA
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> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Running
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> Devin,
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> I just stopped by the OBRA site and noticed your post. I'm a runner, road and trail, size 10.5/11 with pretty normal feet. I feel that I could be of use to test some products. Let me know the details, commitment on my part and anything else that matters.
>
> Thank you,
> Michael Gallagher
> michaelgallagher5@gmail.com
> 954-540-2073
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 11:17:09 -0700
> From: Mike Ripley via OBRA
> To: obra
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] OBRA XC State Champs
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> Hey Gang
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> Back for the 3rd time at Alsea Falls the State XC Champs is this Saturday
> Early!
> YES we did Cancel the Enduro, but have a shuttle day on Sunday to support
> Team Dirt and also Team Dirt is volunteering on Saturday so the event can
> still support them with some funds heading to them from the XC.
>
> 7:30 am start for the short loop for the 2-year juniors and Cat 3's
> 8:30 for all others.
> Some Questions people have asked?
>
> - Junior Experts or Cat 2 Juniors please register for Cat 2 and we will
> break you out for your long course State XC awards.
> - All Categories except Elite and Cat 3 will be also scored for your 10
> year age group. So Clydes and SS you will be able to score as an age
> grouper and go for a Double State title.
>
>
> - Elites that are licensed as Elite race as Elites! Cat 3's for the
> Short course race as Cat 3's
> - Bonus for the more mature crowd in that the Cat 3's who are 70+ will
> be scored for 70-74 and 75+ and as of right now we have 1 entrant in Tom
> Haywood....
>
>
> Tent Camping in Alpine Friday only register online or in person 3-7pm 10.00
> to Team Dirt one tent and up to 4 people.
> NO 5th wheels or anything wider than a truck.
> Venue map of camping and the details at
> https://mudslingerevents.com/cyling-race-events/alsea-falls-xc-race/
>
> Racecourse map
>
> and you can beat the heat with the temps 10 degree's cooler in any case and
> 50-65 degree's during the event on Saturday.
>
> Also if you did win the Oregon Off-Road Series I will bring the jerseys and
> mail the rest next monday
>
> Yes you can register onsite as well 6:30 until 30 minutes prior to your
> start time
> Neutral Rollout for the Short course and the same for the long course with
> the Billy Buster Climb to tackle!
>
> So far 72 people registered and we hope for at least another 30-40
> Register
>
> Mike
>
> --
> Mike Ripley
> Mudslinger Events LLC DBA Oregon Trail Runs
> www.mudslingerevents.com
> www.oregontrailruns.com
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 11:46:18 -0700
> From: Mike Ripley via OBRA
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> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Start List for XC Champs
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> As of Tuesday am and remember Cat 1, Cat 2, SS and Clydes get broken into
> 10 year age groups for State Titles. Fast Juniors please sign up for the
> Cat 2 and we will break you out for junior and you will score as a Cat 2.
>
> Whoever wants to set up odds and start some betting to fundraise for OBRA
> lets do this...Kidding...or am I?
>
> Remember you must be an annual OBRA licensed rider so go online and
> purchase and register now
> LINK
> More info
>
>
> Bjorn Blankenship 10-12 Junior XC Men
> Jack Billowitz 10-12 Junior XC Men
> Zane Strait 10-12 Junior XC Men
> Peter Bentley 10-12 Junior XC Men
> Neve Gerard 10-12 Junior XC Women
> Ian Brown 13-14 Junior XC Men
> Caiden Hartrich 13-14 Junior XC Men
> Emily Boone 13-14 Junior XC Women
> Sascha Knight 15-16 Junior XC Women
> Tom Heywood 70-74 Men
> mickey mcdonald Cat 1 Men XC
> Brian Gruenemay Cat 1 Men XC
> Jesse Coombs Cat 1 Men XC
> Matthew White Cat 1 Men XC
> Shane Johnson Cat 1 Men XC
> Michael Brown Cat 1 Men XC
> Joe Cooper Cat 1 Men XC
> Paul Dreisbach Cat 1 Men XC
> Rich Julyan Cat 1 Men XC
> Nick Skenzick Cat 1 Men XC
> Geoffrey Huber Cat 1 Men XC
> Darragh Hildreth Cat 1 Women XC
> Bre Rue Cat 1 Women XC
> evan lilly Cat 2 Junior Men
> Natasha Visnack Cat 2 Junior Women
> Nicolas Howe Cat 2 Men XC
> Demian Bailey Cat 2 Men XC
> Jon DeShirley Cat 2 Men XC
> Erick Taft Cat 2 Men XC
> Caleb Dickson Cat 2 Men XC
> Edward Knight Cat 2 Men XC
> Mark Miller Cat 2 Men XC
> Chris Sarrett Cat 2 Men XC
> Brad Place Cat 2 Men XC
> Jonathan Pierce Cat 2 Men XC
> Justin Barnhart Cat 2 Men XC
> Alan Ott Cat 2 Men XC
> Brett Seyler Cat 2 Men XC
> Jay Small Cat 2 Men XC
> Craig Seyler Cat 2 Men XC
> Tom Webb Cat 2 Men XC
> John Wilson Cat 2 Men XC
> Matt Bloom Cat 2 Men XC
> Jeff Hollister Cat 2 Men XC
> Mary Dallas Cat 2 Women XC
> Layla Billowitz Cat 2 Women XC
> Sue Hanna Cat 2 Women XC
> Whitney Hooker Cat 2 Women XC
> Alison Andrews Cat 2 Women XC
> Pam Reid Cat 2 Women XC
> Barbara Thiele Cat 2 Women XC
> Rodney Billowitz Cat 3 (Novice) Men
> Matt Taini Cat 3 Men XC
> Fabio Bellini Cat 3 Men XC
> Mark Braun Cat 3 Men XC
> Andrzej Stadnik Cat 3 Men XC
> Nora Barrett Cat 3 Women XC
> Kelly Ard Cat 3 Women XC
> Rodney Billowitz Clydesdale 200+
> Josh Snyder Clydesdale 200+
> Scott Housley Clydesdale 200+
> Mike Tims Clydesdale 200+
> Michael Moody Elite Men XC
> Robert Cummings Elite Men XC
> Felipe Nystrom Elite Men XC
> Jonathan Myers Elite Men XC
> Patrick Means Elite Men XC
> Erik Tonkin Elite Men XC
>
> --
> Mike Ripley
> Mudslinger Events LLC DBA Oregon Trail Runs
> www.mudslingerevents.com
> www.oregontrailruns.com
> www.oregontriplecrown.com
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 13:14:45 -0700
> From: Troy Meeker via OBRA
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] FS: Specialized Stumpjumper Expert Carbon EVO 29
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> Selling my beloved Stumpy, It just doesn't get the use it deserves!
> 2014 model: Blacked out
>
> Frame: Evo FACT 9 carbon front Triangle, Aluminum Rear triangle
> Fork: Rockshox Pike RC
> Rear shock: Factory Fox float CTD shock Kashima Coated w Specialized Brain integrated (135mm)
> Wheels: Roval Traverse 29 Aluminum
> Cranks: Sram S200 1x (32T Chainring) (NO Front D, but has ability to direct mount)
> Handlebars: Specialized 750mm riser bars
> Rear D: Sram Xo1 11 spd mid cage
> Cassette: Sram 11 speed 10x42
> Shifters: Sram XO1 Trigger (thumb, thumb)
> Chain: Sram 11 Speed
> Saddle: Body Geometry Henge Comp, hollow Cr-Mo rails, 143mm
> Tires: I can replace tires as needed with your requested tires *Free!*
> Brakes: Avid Elixir Trail 7 180mm FR/ 160mm Rear rotors
> Seatpost: Specialized Command IR Dropper post, 2 position w/ shift lever operation
> Pedals: Can include Shimano SPD MTB pedals if need be
>
> With SWAT (Storage, Water, Air,Tools) integrated headset top cap chain tool, and multitool below the water bottle cage
>
> MSRP (in 2014) was $6200; Thinking about $2700 is a fair price, but willing to let it go for less to the right home
>
> I am sure there will be other questions, so let me know!
>
> I can send pics as requested, or check out these write ups (same bike, different tires, saddle & stem)
>
> https://nsmb.com/articles/2014-specialized-stumpjumper-expert-carbon-evo-29/
>
> https://www.bikemag.com/gear/first-impressions-2014-specialized-stumpjumper-fsr-expert-carbon-evo-29er/
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 13:36:25 -0700
> From: Eric via OBRA
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Canyon
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> I bought a Canyon Endurace in January. I've taken it to two local shops and neither turned my away or gave me any noticeable attitude. As far as ordering parts, I ordered the bike on a Sunday night and it was delivered Thursday (maybe Wednesday but I can't remember for sure). So yeah, not a long lead time to PDX, and a shorter one than an LBS quoted me for ordering a DT Swiss freehub. As far as propriety goes it does have a straight 1-1/4" steerer tube so that could cause a delay if I need a new stem or head set ASAP. Other than that I love it. Only other nit to pick is it's marketed/designed as an all around endurance bike so omitting fender mounts is a bit of a head scratcher.
>
> Eric
>
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 14:38:26 -0700
> From: Bennett Shane via OBRA
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Canyon
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> Not even gonna bother reading the thread so far, but I can say that the Aeroad is a sickkkkkkkkkkkk whip! I have pathetic top end power, but when I rode this thing, I felt like I could actually sprint!
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 14:46:17 -0700
> From: Bennett Shane via OBRA
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Canyon
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> Not even gonna bother reading the thread so far, but I can say that the Aeroad is a sickkkkkkkkkkkk whip! I have pathetic top end power, but when I rode this thing, I felt like I could actually sprint!
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 16:55:39 -0700
> From: Michael Ybaben via OBRA
> To: obra@list.obra.org
> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Online Retail Trouble!
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> Hello All,
>
> I wanted to pass a warning to everyone in the community. Do NOT use the online retailer OUTSIDE OUTFITTERS from St. Louis.
> I made a purchase on something their site said was in stock, they took my money and never shipped the item. It's been 1 month and they refuse to answer emails or phone calls.
> Upon researching, I found out they have a bad reputation, so I wanted to pass on the warning.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
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>
> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 17:41:50 -0700
> From: "ron s. via OBRA"
> To: Michael , "RickCJohnson1@gmail.com"
> , Joe Cipale
> Cc: Obra email
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Question, Canyon bikes
> Message-ID: <5b57c752.1c69fb81.3e4d3.cc10@mx.google.com>
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> Canyon is not the only maker that has proprietary (sp) parts and or can just be ordered on line. Most of you reading this are connected to the concept of buying online and often at the high end spectrum, if it was “what you wanted”, it would be no big deal. The fact that someone does not like that concept (does not want to purchase / work on such bikes) is just her / his choice. Granted the fact that a person with that leaning decides to post to this yellowjacket nest full of expert advice does make for the usual attacks. She has said what she thinks. Instead of preaching on and on, just buy where you want and let things find the balance. There are way more important things to consider in most people’s lives than what you think about someone choosing to work on a certain brand of bicycle. Do your thing (practice your religion) and let others practice theirs. Man….. I cannot believe this is taking place when people would be out riding hard, thus allowing the endorphins to make things seem pretty much OK. So now I have kept this shit going…..sorry folks.
> ronnie
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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> From: Michael via OBRA
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 5:23 PM
> To: RickCJohnson1@gmail.com; Joe Cipale
> Cc: Obra email
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Question, Canyon bikes
>
> Also, it’s not they don’t use totally normal parts and components top to bottom. 95% of the parts and components on ANY modern bicycle are readily off the shelf items, or can easily be replaced with an off the shelf item quickly. There’s absolutely no reason to not service someone’s bicycle. If it was 25 years old and you had no idea where to get parts, that would be one thing, but a brand new state of the art bike? Your just losing revenue and turning away customers, that will be much less likely to come back for other items like tubes, tires, gels, chains, etc.
>
>
>
> From: Rick Johnson via OBRA
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 9:25 PM
> To: Joe Cipale
> Cc: Obra email
> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Question, Canyon bikes
>
> It will be easier to just watch and see which bike shops are still around a few years after they announce they'll discriminate based on the product choices of their customers.
> On 7/23/2018 4:22 PM, Joe Cipale via OBRA wrote:
> Tell ya what Justin,
>
> Open up your own bike shop as you imagine it should work and get back to us in a couple of years.
>
> Joe
>
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018, 8:38 AM Manville via OBRA wrote:
> 1) what “liability”? Would West End bikes work on my Breadwinner or DeSalvo?
>
> 2) Canyon has a huge warehouse in Chico, CA. Parts in 2 days is my guess.
>
> 3) Bike shops live and die off of service; not sales
>
> I don’t own a Canyon but the price point makes them very attractive. The bike shop might need to reimagine itself; not a bad thing IMO.
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 22:20:17 -0700
> From: Hazel Gross via OBRA
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> Subject: [OBRA Chat] Tues PIR 7.24.18 results
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> Here's the preliminary results for tonight's PIR race. Please email me by
> tomorrow night with any corrections.
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> Place Number Last Name First Name Team Points Notes
> Men 5
> 1 8043 Steele Calvin 15
> 2 5589 Sittner Brian 12
> 3 32 Ohdera Aki 10
> 4 5450 Houston Rickey 8
> 5 6030 Peddie Chris 7
> 6 5615 Ormerod Gil 6
> 7 8089 Amparo Alex 5
> 8 5135 Condon John 4
> 9 5681 Andrus Adam 3
> 10 6035 Erhan Yalcin 2
> 11 5305 Amparo Andrei
> DNF 7160 Burns Joan
> DNF 7056 La Rue Nori
> DNF 7044 La Rue Kathleen
> Men 4/5
> 1 4046 Wilger John Team Oregon p/b Rodda Paint 21
> 2 5092 Rowley Brion 14
> 3 5436 Woods Christopher 10
> 4 5671 Shimamoto Connor 8
> 5 4047 McGregor Gavin Bethany Bike Repair pb CycleOne Racing Academy 7
> 6 5243 Meyer Jonathan Dialed Cycling Team 7
> 7 5041 Hitchcock Christopher 6
> 8 5846 Tkebuchava Daniel 5
> 9 33 Ohdera Aki 4
> 10 5104 Furst Paul Dialed Cycling Team 2
> 11 5838 Mangubat Lorenzo Grouptrail Cyclnig
> 12 5020 Rust Gary Dialed Cycling Team
> 13 4142 Bundy Collin
> 14 31 Ohdera Nao
> 15 35 Gerts Ken Bethany Bike Repair pb CycleOne Racing Academy
> 16 7029 Kathrein Kimberly Dialed Cycling Team
> 17 5076 Chochon Jeff Fast Fun Nice Racing Team p/b Wattie Ink
> 18 5035 Kelly Tom
> 19 5085 McMahan Ethan
> 20 7145 Campos Tatiana
> 21 5322 Smith David Bethany Bike Repair pb CycleOne Racing Academy
> 22 30 uchiyama genta
> DNF 4221 Rositani Roman
> Men 3/4
> 1 354 Tornai Robert Therapeutic Associates Racing p/b Pacific Office 31
> 2 520 Steele Greg Therapeutic Associates Racing p/b Pacific Office 26
> 3 603 Scholz Scott Therapeutic Associates Racing p/b Pacific Office 12
> 4 4202 Colin Rodrigo 10
> 5 636 Root David Therapeutic Associates Racing p/b Pacific Office 7
> 6 577 Ginsberg Mark Hosmer Chiropractic -RPM Mortgage 6
> 7 4043 Wiggins Dylan 5
> 8 374 Cowperthwaite David 4
> 9 361 Anderson Eric Team Dr Will Bar 3
> 10 5369 Pederson Ben Grouptrail Cycling 2
> 11 4172 Davidson Brad Grouptrail Cycling
> 12 4315 Bailly Devin Hosmer Chiropractic -RPM Mortgage
> 13 5839 wilkinson ian
> 14 508 Stokes Greg Hammer Velo
> 15 317 Swanson Steve
> 16 4171 Ziehnert Justin TCNF.LEGAL Racing Team
> 17 4105 Malnati Doug Therapeutic Associates Racing p/b Pacific Office
> 18 539 Gold Mitch Team Dr Will Bar
> 19 4181 Nelson Chris
> 20 4053 Hagstette Eric Dialed Cycling Team
> 21 4344 Siwinski John W
> 22 554 Voldengen Erik Therapeutic Associates Racing p/b Pacific Office
> 23 113 #N/A #N/A #N/A
> 24 4069 Dessinger Brian
> 25 38 goldston charlie
> 26 5117 Johnson David Team Oregon p/b Rodda Paint
> 27 123 Murray Mike Bike Central/Barbur Vet
> 28 243 Brault Lori
> 29 4117 Beissinger J Pearce Team Oregon p/b Rodda Paint
> 30 4184 Hall Travis Stages Cycling
> 31 549 Fattic Richard Ruckus Test Team
> 32 344 Anton Carl Dialed Cycling Team
> 33 312 Hemminger Stephen Team Oregon p/b Rodda Paint
> DNF 5104 Furst Paul Dialed Cycling Team
> DNF 675 Howell Dylan Point S Racing
> Men 1/2/3
> 1 101 Russell Jeremy River City Bicycles 25
> 2 836 Harb Harrison River City/ Bike Law 16
> 3 111 Roberts Kyle Portland 16
> 4 175 Serra Henrique 15
> 5 777 Bedford Stephen Velobody/Gerk's 10
> 6 34 hammerquist eric
> 9
> 7 594 Ibold Hans Cyclepath Racing 8
> 8 161 Sherman David 6
> 9 103 Litinsky Marek Team Oregon p/b Rodda Paint 5
> 10 570 Wright Edward Holtey Brown p/b Peak Condition 4
> 11 873 Suchocki Andrew Therapeutic Associates Racing p/b Pacific Office 2
> 12 909 sander aaron 2
> 13 916 Harbison Sam Holtey Brown p/b Peak Condition 2
> 14 338 Seelig Peter Team Dr Will Bar
> 15 649 Thielen Sean Hosmer Chiropractic -RPM Mortgage
> 16 146 Rathe Jacob Jelly Belly Cycling warning no number
> 17 504 Medina Michael Monster Media Racing p/b Cyclesoles
> 18 584 de la Motte Phil
> 19 bad number placement #N/A #N/A
> 20 608 Girard Michael Evolution Racing Team/Project Bike
> 21 365 Bright Christopher Illy Coffee-River City Bicycles
> 22 835 Ward Kyle
> 23 349 Miske Andrej Team Dr Will Bar
> 24 989 Weaver Ryan River City Bicycles
> 25 977 Grochau John VC Roger
> 26 226 Audrain Ivy
> 27 563 Ramsey Kelsey Team Oregon p/b Rodda Paint
> 28 218 Eriksson Lisa Holtey Brown p/b Peak Condition
> 29 756 field joe
> 30 358 Angert Adam Holtey Brown p/b Peak Condition
> 31 number too high #N/A #N/A
> 32 971 coffey tim #N/A
> 33 980 Littlehales Todd VC Roger
> 34 127 Fletcher Joel Hosmer Chiropractic -RPM Mortgage
> 35 710 Crouch Joel Grown Rogue Cycling Team
> 36 117 Heaberlin Cliff River City Bicycles
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