Missing jackets at MHCC

Adams, Mike

2004-06-08



Mike,

I will come armed for the next RR or Stage race and will be happy to execute all litter offenders. This is not only a bonehead move for future venues, but each offenders number should be taken and given a yellow safety vest to walk the course to collect all liter right after the race is over. Just a thought.

Mike Adams



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From: Mike Murray [mailto:mike.m-@obra.org]

Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 1:50 PM

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For future reference NEVER leave items in the OBRA truck expecting that

someone else will figure out what to do with it. This includes, but it is

not limited to, lost and found clothing, sunglasses or other items,

unclaimed support wheels, water bottles, etc. Lost and found from specific

races is the responsibility of the organizer of that race. The OBRA

equipment manager has plenty to do for the pittance that he gets paid

without trying to run down all the stuff from all the races. With 280+ days

of racing on the OBRA schedule the amount of detritus that ends up in the

OBRA truck is more than we have room to store. This is not directed at race

volunteers as Martin probably feels right now but more at the race

organizers who fail to clear this stuff out of the truck before they return

it.



I want to second the littering comment. Just because you are at a bike race

doesn't mean you are allowed to litter. In fact, being at a bike race is

even more of a reason not to litter because the presence of litter after an

event makes it much more likely that we will not be able to use that venue

again in the future. There is no staffing for people to clean up after you

and even if there were do you want to pay the increased costs that this

would mean? Keep your garbage in your pockets and your bottles in your

cages. If you need to eject an empty bottle to take on a new one ONLY do

that in an area where it is probable that someone, generally YOU, will be

able to gather those together like in the feed zone or at the finish line.

Preferably keep the empty bottle in your cage or pocket. If you see some

other bozo tossing off stuff let him know what a bonehead he is AND report

it to the officials. There is a penalty for littering in the rules. At Mt

Hood it was a $25 fine, which was applied at least once. (Personally I

think they should be shot, daily.) Unfortunately officials can rarely see

the rider litter from the middle of the field. Other riders do see and they

should forcefully apply peer pressure.



Mike Murray



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From: martin cohen [mailto:mc-@gorge.net]

Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 09:35 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Missing jackets at MHCC





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We drove a sweep car and found 2 jackets, a clear and a yellow PI, I

think both around the start of the first climb, however.



Threw them both into the OBRA truck, along with the 20 or so water

bottles that must have 'bounced' out of rider's cages??!! Then there's

the countless gu packets, cliff bar wrappers,... Hey people, you're

riding in my back yard (I live in Hood River), please don't litter here!



Anyways, whoever knows where the jackets went that were in the OBRA

truck is who you need to talk to.



Martin



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Mike Murray

2004-06-08



For future reference NEVER leave items in the OBRA truck expecting that

someone else will figure out what to do with it. This includes, but it is

not limited to, lost and found clothing, sunglasses or other items,

unclaimed support wheels, water bottles, etc. Lost and found from specific

races is the responsibility of the organizer of that race. The OBRA

equipment manager has plenty to do for the pittance that he gets paid

without trying to run down all the stuff from all the races. With 280+ days

of racing on the OBRA schedule the amount of detritus that ends up in the

OBRA truck is more than we have room to store. This is not directed at race

volunteers as Martin probably feels right now but more at the race

organizers who fail to clear this stuff out of the truck before they return

it.



I want to second the littering comment. Just because you are at a bike race

doesn't mean you are allowed to litter. In fact, being at a bike race is

even more of a reason not to litter because the presence of litter after an

event makes it much more likely that we will not be able to use that venue

again in the future. There is no staffing for people to clean up after you

and even if there were do you want to pay the increased costs that this

would mean? Keep your garbage in your pockets and your bottles in your

cages. If you need to eject an empty bottle to take on a new one ONLY do

that in an area where it is probable that someone, generally YOU, will be

able to gather those together like in the feed zone or at the finish line.

Preferably keep the empty bottle in your cage or pocket. If you see some

other bozo tossing off stuff let him know what a bonehead he is AND report

it to the officials. There is a penalty for littering in the rules. At Mt

Hood it was a $25 fine, which was applied at least once. (Personally I

think they should be shot, daily.) Unfortunately officials can rarely see

the rider litter from the middle of the field. Other riders do see and they

should forcefully apply peer pressure.



Mike Murray



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From: martin cohen [mailto:mc-@gorge.net]

Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 09:35 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Missing jackets at MHCC





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We drove a sweep car and found 2 jackets, a clear and a yellow PI, I

think both around the start of the first climb, however.



Threw them both into the OBRA truck, along with the 20 or so water

bottles that must have 'bounced' out of rider's cages??!! Then there's

the countless gu packets, cliff bar wrappers,... Hey people, you're

riding in my back yard (I live in Hood River), please don't litter here!



Anyways, whoever knows where the jackets went that were in the OBRA

truck is who you need to talk to.



Martin



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martin cohen

2004-06-08



We drove a sweep car and found 2 jackets, a clear and a yellow PI, I

think both around the start of the first climb, however.



Threw them both into the OBRA truck, along with the 20 or so water

bottles that must have 'bounced' out of rider's cages??!! Then there's

the countless gu packets, cliff bar wrappers,... Hey people, you're

riding in my back yard (I live in Hood River), please don't litter here!



Anyways, whoever knows where the jackets went that were in the OBRA

truck is who you need to talk to.



Martin