Littering and such

Ron Magnus

2004-06-08



Hey folks what's so hard about stuffing the warppers under the elastic

leg band of your shorts. They will be there waiting for you to dispose of

them after you get off the podium and won't show in the pictures.



Ron Magnus



On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, David Hart wrote:



 

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I found it quite easy to give my garbage to a volunteer AFTER I asked if

it was ok. I am sure that a volunteer would rather take the garbage than

risk it falling out of my pocket when I reach for my other food. I did

the same for my water bottle and she was happy to take it. I would do

the same as a volunteer. I did see a lot of gel wrappers and some Clif

Bar wrappers...not cool. I hope it fell to the ground on accident.









David Hart

North River Racing

Southwest Washington's Cycling team!

http://www.northriverracing.org

From: Mike Murray <mike.m-@obra.org>

Reply-To: mike.m-@obra.org

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Missing jackets at MHCC

Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 13:49:38 -0700

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For future reference NEVER leave items in the OBRA truck expecting that

someone else will figure out what to do with it. This includes, but it

is

not limited to, lost and found clothing, sunglasses or other items,

unclaimed support wheels, water bottles, etc. Lost and found from

specific

races is the responsibility of the organizer of that race. The OBRA

equipment manager has plenty to do for the pittance that he gets paid

without trying to run down all the stuff from all the races. With 280+

days

of racing on the OBRA schedule the amount of detritus that ends up in the

OBRA truck is more than we have room to store. This is not directed at

race

volunteers as Martin probably feels right now but more at the race

organizers who fail to clear this stuff out of the truck before they

return

it.

I want to second the littering comment. Just because you are at a bike

race

doesn't mean you are allowed to litter. In fact, being at a bike race is

even more of a reason not to litter because the presence of litter after

an

event makes it much more likely that we will not be able to use that

venue

again in the future. There is no staffing for people to clean up after

you

and even if there were do you want to pay the increased costs that this

would mean? Keep your garbage in your pockets and your bottles in your

cages. If you need to eject an empty bottle to take on a new one ONLY do

that in an area where it is probable that someone, generally YOU, will be

able to gather those together like in the feed zone or at the finish

line.

Preferably keep the empty bottle in your cage or pocket. If you see some

other bozo tossing off stuff let him know what a bonehead he is AND

report

it to the officials. There is a penalty for littering in the rules. At

Mt

Hood it was a $25 fine, which was applied at least once. (Personally I

think they should be shot, daily.) Unfortunately officials can rarely

see

the rider litter from the middle of the field. Other riders do see and

they

should forcefully apply peer pressure.

Mike Murray

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Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 09:35 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Missing jackets at MHCC

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We drove a sweep car and found 2 jackets, a clear and a yellow PI, I

think both around the start of the first climb, however.

Threw them both into the OBRA truck, along with the 20 or so water

bottles that must have 'bounced' out of rider's cages??!! Then there's

the countless gu packets, cliff bar wrappers,... Hey people, you're

riding in my back yard (I live in Hood River), please don't litter here!

Anyways, whoever knows where the jackets went that were in the OBRA

truck is who you need to talk to.

Martin

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<P>I found it quite easy to give my garbage to a volunteer AFTER I asked if it was ok.  I am sure that a volunteer would rather take the garbage than risk it falling out of my pocket when I reach for my other food.  I did the same for my water bottle and she was happy to take it.  I would do the same as a volunteer.  I did see a lot of gel wrappers and some Clif Bar wrappers...not cool.  I hope it fell to the ground on accident.<BR><BR></P></DIV><BR><BR><BR>David Hart

<DIV></DIV>North River Racing

<DIV></DIV>Southwest Washington's Cycling team!

<DIV></DIV>http://www.northriverracing.org

<DIV></DIV>

<DIV></DIV>

<DIV></DIV>

<DIV></DIV>From: Mike Murray <mike.m-@obra.org>

<DIV></DIV>Reply-To: mike.m-@obra.org

<DIV></DIV>To: ob-@topica.com

<DIV></DIV>Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Missing jackets at MHCC

<DIV></DIV>Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 13:49:38 -0700

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<DIV></DIV>For future reference NEVER leave items in the OBRA truck expecting that

<DIV></DIV>someone else will figure out what to do with it.  This includes, but it is

<DIV></DIV>not limited to, lost and found clothing, sunglasses or other items,

<DIV></DIV>unclaimed support wheels, water bottles, etc.  Lost and found from specific

<DIV></DIV>races is the responsibility of the organizer of that race.  The OBRA

<DIV></DIV>equipment manager has plenty to do for the pittance that he gets paid

<DIV></DIV>without trying to run down all the stuff from all the races.  With 280+ days

<DIV></DIV>of racing on the OBRA schedule the amount of detritus that ends up in the

<DIV></DIV>OBRA truck is more than we have room to store.  This is not directed at race

<DIV></DIV>volunteers as Martin probably feels right now but more at the race

<DIV></DIV>organizers who fail to clear this stuff out of the truck before they return

<DIV></DIV>it.

<DIV></DIV>

<DIV></DIV>I want to second the littering comment.  Just because you are at a bike race

<DIV></DIV>doesn't mean you are allowed to litter.  In fact, being at a bike race is

<DIV></DIV>even more of a reason not to litter because the presence of litter after an

<DIV></DIV>event makes it much more likely that we will not be able to use that venue

<DIV></DIV>again in the future. There is no staffing for people to clean up after you

<DIV></DIV>and even if there were do you want to pay the increased costs that this

<DIV></DIV>would mean?  Keep your garbage in your pockets and your bottles in your

<DIV></DIV>cages.  If you need to eject an empty bottle to take on a new one ONLY do

<DIV></DIV>that in an area where it is probable that someone, generally YOU, will be

<DIV></DIV>able to gather those together like in the feed zone or at the finish line.

<DIV></DIV>Preferably keep the empty bottle in your cage or pocket.  If you see some

<DIV></DIV>other bozo tossing off stuff let him know what a bonehead he is AND report

<DIV></DIV>it to the officials.  There is a penalty for littering in the rules.  At Mt

<DIV></DIV>Hood it was a $25 fine, which was applied at least once.  (Personally I

<DIV></DIV>think they should be shot, daily.)  Unfortunately officials can rarely see

<DIV></DIV>the rider litter from the middle of the field.  Other riders do see and they

<DIV></DIV>should forcefully apply peer pressure.

<DIV></DIV>

<DIV></DIV>Mike Murray

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<DIV></DIV>-----Original Message-----

<DIV></DIV>From: martin cohen [mailto:mc-@gorge.net]

<DIV></DIV>Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 09:35 AM

<DIV></DIV>To: ob-@topica.com

<DIV></DIV>Subject: [OBRA Chat] Missing jackets at MHCC

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<DIV></DIV>We drove a sweep car and found 2 jackets, a clear and a yellow PI, I

<DIV></DIV>think both around the start of the first climb, however.

<DIV></DIV>

<DIV></DIV>Threw them both into the OBRA truck, along with the 20 or so water

<DIV></DIV>bottles that must have 'bounced' out of rider's cages??!! Then there's

<DIV></DIV>the countless gu packets, cliff bar wrappers,... Hey people, you're

<DIV></DIV>riding in my back yard (I live in Hood River), please don't litter here!

<DIV></DIV>

<DIV></DIV>Anyways, whoever knows where the jackets went that were in the OBRA

<DIV></DIV>truck is who you need to talk to.

<DIV></DIV>

<DIV></DIV>Martin

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