OBRA: OBRA Chat: Fighting the Fight!

Patrick Edenfield

2004-07-09

I agree completely!! While I read this, I was hearing "Battle Hymn of

the Republic" in my head. The oppressed masses must rise up and join

the battle!

(By the way.... did you know that soilant green is people!?!?)

John Benenate wrote:

Regarding erik scholtes email titled "Out of the Office Until

Tuesday-7/6"

I feel I must take offense to his entire implication. Being a great

cyclist

myself, with bulging muscles, and expensive equipment (very expensive

equipment) (more expensive than yours) I have been around the block a

few

times. And I think it is up to all of us, ALL OF YOU, to speak up in

times

like these and express our resolve in opposition to the day to day

actions

of people who try to take advantage of the system, in this way.

Sure, Erik may be out of the office this week, but how can he truly know

if

he will make it back safely. And who is he to ensnare us in his cycle of

subjugation and objectification?

Must we OBRA MEMBERS stand by and endure the veritable enslavement of

Ms.

Susan Teague and L B for our insatiable desire to answer

questions and meet needs?

Fellow OBRA Members, we must rise up against injustice. We must now

write

emails back and forth until we are good and angry. We must criticize

anything that moves. And if people like Erik should try to ensnare us

with

any more of their little schemes, we must meet and reorganize.

(I won't be able to attend the meeting as I am in the "power build"

portion

of my macro-cycle)

Does any one have an opinion on this issue?

If you are any kind of bicycle racer, you should!

THINK ABOUT IT.

Just the opinion of an old mega pro who may never have actually ridden

his

bike, but sure as heck knows what's what - and what should be.

Keep the Rubber side Down.

Keep the Wind at your Back.

Ride Hard Race Hard.

Keep your Spandex Tight.

Pass on the right.

Cheers,

Friends,

Survivor,

Ciao for now,

Yours Truly.

Best Regards,

Bye, Bye,

J. Fritzgerald B.

-- Topica Digest --

Out of the Office Until Tuesday-7/6

By erik.sc-@vizwerks.com

------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 01:51:20 -0400

From: erik.sc-@vizwerks.com

Subject:

I will be out of the office this week and will be returning Tuesday July

6th.

Please contact either Susan Teague or L B with any

questions or

needs you may have.

Thanks,

Erik Scholtes

--

John Benenate

Director Sportif

Cyclisme Racing Programs

b.i.k.e.

1532 SE Pine St

Portland, OR 97214

503-234-8454

jo-@kidsofbike.org

John Benenate

2004-07-01

Very good question Jerry, and you are just the man to ask it, but I wonder,

is not the question "why?"

This whole discussion has been vibrant, and I want to thank all of my fellow

OBRA members for participating in this timely discussion.

Cheers,

JB

on 7/1/04 12:05 PM, Jerald Powell at jpow-@spiritone.com wrote:

What?

On Jul 1, 2004, at 9:41 AM, John Benenate wrote:

Regarding erik scholtes email titled "Out of the Office Until

Tuesday-7/6"

I feel I must take offense to his entire implication. Being a great

cyclist

myself, with bulging muscles, and expensive equipment (very expensive

equipment) (more expensive than yours) I have been around the block a

few

times. And I think it is up to all of us, ALL OF YOU, to speak up in

times

like these and express our resolve in opposition to the day to day

actions

of people who try to take advantage of the system, in this way.

Sure, Erik may be out of the office this week, but how can he truly

know if

he will make it back safely. And who is he to ensnare us in his cycle

of

subjugation and objectification?

Must we OBRA MEMBERS stand by and endure the veritable enslavement of

Ms.

Susan Teague and L B for our insatiable desire to answer

questions and meet needs?

Fellow OBRA Members, we must rise up against injustice. We must now

write

emails back and forth until we are good and angry. We must criticize

anything that moves. And if people like Erik should try to ensnare us

with

any more of their little schemes, we must meet and reorganize.

(I won't be able to attend the meeting as I am in the "power build"

portion

of my macro-cycle)

Does any one have an opinion on this issue?

If you are any kind of bicycle racer, you should!

THINK ABOUT IT.

Just the opinion of an old mega pro who may never have actually ridden

his

bike, but sure as heck knows what's what - and what should be.

Keep the Rubber side Down.

Keep the Wind at your Back.

Ride Hard Race Hard.

Keep your Spandex Tight.

Pass on the right.

Cheers,

Friends,

Survivor,

Ciao for now,

Yours Truly.

Best Regards,

Bye, Bye,

J. Fritzgerald B.

Out of the Office Until Tuesday-7/6

By erik.sc-@vizwerks.com

Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 01:51:20 -0400

From: erik.sc-@vizwerks.com

Subject:

I will be out of the office this week and will be returning Tuesday

July 6th.

Please contact either Susan Teague or L B with any

questions or

needs you may have.

Thanks,

Erik Scholtes

--

John Benenate

Director Sportif

Cyclisme Racing Programs

b.i.k.e.

1532 SE Pine St

Portland, OR 97214

503-234-8454

jo-@kidsofbike.org

Jerry Powell

USAC Elite Coach

1926 SW Madison Street

Portland, OR 97205

503 222 7173

503 799 7823

jpow-@spiritone.com

--

John Benenate

Director Sportif

Cyclisme Racing Programs

b.i.k.e.

1532 SE Pine St

Portland, OR 97214

503-234-8454

jo-@kidsofbike.org

John Benenate

2004-07-01

You used question marks. Are you asking me?

Best Regards,

JB

on 7/1/04 11:55 AM, mark duff at gsza-@hotmail.com wrote:

I'm lost???

From: Dave German <dave_g-@hotmail.com>

Reply-To: dave_g-@hotmail.com

To: jo-@kidsofbike.org, ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Fighting the Fight!

Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:16:13 -0700

Dude, I don't know what you do with your time (job?) but whatever it is,

where can I sign up??

From: John Benenate <jo-@kidsofbike.org>

Reply-To: jo-@kidsofbike.org

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Fighting the Fight!

Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:41:20 -0700

Regarding erik scholtes email titled "Out of the Office Until Tuesday-7/6"

I feel I must take offense to his entire implication. Being a great

cyclist

myself, with bulging muscles, and expensive equipment (very expensive

equipment) (more expensive than yours) I have been around the block a few

times. And I think it is up to all of us, ALL OF YOU, to speak up in times

like these and express our resolve in opposition to the day to day actions

of people who try to take advantage of the system, in this way.

Sure, Erik may be out of the office this week, but how can he truly know

if

he will make it back safely. And who is he to ensnare us in his cycle of

subjugation and objectification?

Must we OBRA MEMBERS stand by and endure the veritable enslavement of Ms.

Susan Teague and L B for our insatiable desire to answer

questions and meet needs?

Fellow OBRA Members, we must rise up against injustice. We must now write

emails back and forth until we are good and angry. We must criticize

anything that moves. And if people like Erik should try to ensnare us with

any more of their little schemes, we must meet and reorganize.

(I won't be able to attend the meeting as I am in the "power build"

portion

of my macro-cycle)

Does any one have an opinion on this issue?

If you are any kind of bicycle racer, you should!

THINK ABOUT IT.

Just the opinion of an old mega pro who may never have actually ridden his

bike, but sure as heck knows what's what - and what should be.

Keep the Rubber side Down.

Keep the Wind at your Back.

Ride Hard Race Hard.

Keep your Spandex Tight.

Pass on the right.

Cheers,

Friends,

Survivor,

Ciao for now,

Yours Truly.

Best Regards,

Bye, Bye,

J. Fritzgerald B.

-- Topica Digest --

Out of the Office Until Tuesday-7/6

By erik.sc-@vizwerks.com

------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 01:51:20 -0400

From: erik.sc-@vizwerks.com

Subject:

I will be out of the office this week and will be returning Tuesday

July 6th.

Please contact either Susan Teague or L B with any

questions or

needs you may have.

Thanks,

Erik Scholtes

--

John Benenate

Director Sportif

Cyclisme Racing Programs

b.i.k.e.

1532 SE Pine St

Portland, OR 97214

503-234-8454

jo-@kidsofbike.org

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Cyclisme Racing Programs

b.i.k.e.

1532 SE Pine St

Portland, OR 97214

503-234-8454

jo-@kidsofbike.org

mark duff

2004-07-01

I'm lost???

From: Dave German <dave_g-@hotmail.com>

Reply-To: dave_g-@hotmail.com

To: jo-@kidsofbike.org, ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Fighting the Fight!

Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:16:13 -0700

Dude, I don't know what you do with your time (job?) but whatever it is,

where can I sign up??

From: John Benenate <jo-@kidsofbike.org>

Reply-To: jo-@kidsofbike.org

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Fighting the Fight!

Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:41:20 -0700

Regarding erik scholtes email titled "Out of the Office Until Tuesday-7/6"

I feel I must take offense to his entire implication. Being a great

cyclist

myself, with bulging muscles, and expensive equipment (very expensive

equipment) (more expensive than yours) I have been around the block a few

times. And I think it is up to all of us, ALL OF YOU, to speak up in times

like these and express our resolve in opposition to the day to day actions

of people who try to take advantage of the system, in this way.

Sure, Erik may be out of the office this week, but how can he truly know

if

he will make it back safely. And who is he to ensnare us in his cycle of

subjugation and objectification?

Must we OBRA MEMBERS stand by and endure the veritable enslavement of Ms.

Susan Teague and L B for our insatiable desire to answer

questions and meet needs?

Fellow OBRA Members, we must rise up against injustice. We must now write

emails back and forth until we are good and angry. We must criticize

anything that moves. And if people like Erik should try to ensnare us with

any more of their little schemes, we must meet and reorganize.

(I won't be able to attend the meeting as I am in the "power build"

portion

of my macro-cycle)

Does any one have an opinion on this issue?

If you are any kind of bicycle racer, you should!

THINK ABOUT IT.

Just the opinion of an old mega pro who may never have actually ridden his

bike, but sure as heck knows what's what - and what should be.

Keep the Rubber side Down.

Keep the Wind at your Back.

Ride Hard Race Hard.

Keep your Spandex Tight.

Pass on the right.

Cheers,

Friends,

Survivor,

Ciao for now,

Yours Truly.

Best Regards,

Bye, Bye,

J. Fritzgerald B.

-- Topica Digest --

Out of the Office Until Tuesday-7/6

By erik.sc-@vizwerks.com

------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 01:51:20 -0400

From: erik.sc-@vizwerks.com

Subject:

I will be out of the office this week and will be returning Tuesday

July 6th.

Please contact either Susan Teague or L B with any

questions or

needs you may have.

Thanks,

Erik Scholtes

--

John Benenate

Director Sportif

Cyclisme Racing Programs

b.i.k.e.

1532 SE Pine St

Portland, OR 97214

503-234-8454

jo-@kidsofbike.org

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Dave German

2004-07-01

Dude, I don't know what you do with your time (job?) but whatever it is,

where can I sign up??

From: John Benenate <jo-@kidsofbike.org>

Reply-To: jo-@kidsofbike.org

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Fighting the Fight!

Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:41:20 -0700

Regarding erik scholtes email titled "Out of the Office Until Tuesday-7/6"

I feel I must take offense to his entire implication. Being a great cyclist

myself, with bulging muscles, and expensive equipment (very expensive

equipment) (more expensive than yours) I have been around the block a few

times. And I think it is up to all of us, ALL OF YOU, to speak up in times

like these and express our resolve in opposition to the day to day actions

of people who try to take advantage of the system, in this way.

Sure, Erik may be out of the office this week, but how can he truly know if

he will make it back safely. And who is he to ensnare us in his cycle of

subjugation and objectification?

Must we OBRA MEMBERS stand by and endure the veritable enslavement of Ms.

Susan Teague and L B for our insatiable desire to answer

questions and meet needs?

Fellow OBRA Members, we must rise up against injustice. We must now write

emails back and forth until we are good and angry. We must criticize

anything that moves. And if people like Erik should try to ensnare us with

any more of their little schemes, we must meet and reorganize.

(I won't be able to attend the meeting as I am in the "power build" portion

of my macro-cycle)

Does any one have an opinion on this issue?

If you are any kind of bicycle racer, you should!

THINK ABOUT IT.

Just the opinion of an old mega pro who may never have actually ridden his

bike, but sure as heck knows what's what - and what should be.

Keep the Rubber side Down.

Keep the Wind at your Back.

Ride Hard Race Hard.

Keep your Spandex Tight.

Pass on the right.

Cheers,

Friends,

Survivor,

Ciao for now,

Yours Truly.

Best Regards,

Bye, Bye,

J. Fritzgerald B.

-- Topica Digest --

Out of the Office Until Tuesday-7/6

By erik.sc-@vizwerks.com

------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 01:51:20 -0400

From: erik.sc-@vizwerks.com

Subject:

I will be out of the office this week and will be returning Tuesday July

6th.

Please contact either Susan Teague or L B with any

questions or

needs you may have.

Thanks,

Erik Scholtes

--

John Benenate

Director Sportif

Cyclisme Racing Programs

b.i.k.e.

1532 SE Pine St

Portland, OR 97214

503-234-8454

jo-@kidsofbike.org

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2004-07-01

Regarding erik scholtes email titled "Out of the Office Until Tuesday-7/6"

I feel I must take offense to his entire implication. Being a great cyclist

myself, with bulging muscles, and expensive equipment (very expensive

equipment) (more expensive than yours) I have been around the block a few

times. And I think it is up to all of us, ALL OF YOU, to speak up in times

like these and express our resolve in opposition to the day to day actions

of people who try to take advantage of the system, in this way.

Sure, Erik may be out of the office this week, but how can he truly know if

he will make it back safely. And who is he to ensnare us in his cycle of

subjugation and objectification?

Must we OBRA MEMBERS stand by and endure the veritable enslavement of Ms.

Susan Teague and L B for our insatiable desire to answer

questions and meet needs?

Fellow OBRA Members, we must rise up against injustice. We must now write

emails back and forth until we are good and angry. We must criticize

anything that moves. And if people like Erik should try to ensnare us with

any more of their little schemes, we must meet and reorganize.

(I won't be able to attend the meeting as I am in the "power build" portion

of my macro-cycle)

Does any one have an opinion on this issue?

If you are any kind of bicycle racer, you should!

THINK ABOUT IT.

Just the opinion of an old mega pro who may never have actually ridden his

bike, but sure as heck knows what's what - and what should be.

Keep the Rubber side Down.

Keep the Wind at your Back.

Ride Hard Race Hard.

Keep your Spandex Tight.

Pass on the right.

Cheers,

Friends,

Survivor,

Ciao for now,

Yours Truly.

Best Regards,

Bye, Bye,

J. Fritzgerald B.

-- Topica Digest --

Out of the Office Until Tuesday-7/6

By erik.sc-@vizwerks.com

------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 01:51:20 -0400

From: erik.sc-@vizwerks.com

Subject:

I will be out of the office this week and will be returning Tuesday July 6th.

Please contact either Susan Teague or L B with any questions or

needs you may have.

Thanks,

Erik Scholtes

--

John Benenate

Director Sportif

Cyclisme Racing Programs

b.i.k.e.

1532 SE Pine St

Portland, OR 97214

503-234-8454

jo-@kidsofbike.org