RE: SPOILER 2004 TTT rule change

Craig Austin

2004-07-07



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The reason Jan and Tyler lost less time than it would appear is because the

tour organizers fixed it this year so that the fast TTT teams wouldn't put

too much time on the slower ones. Placement, not time, is all that matters

this year. Second place team loses 20 seconds whether they actually finish

one second or four minutes behind the winners. Third and fourth etc. lose

another 10 seconds each down to about fifteenth place, and then they only

lose 5 seconds per place. Last place team loses less than three minutes

regardless of the time. Big incentive to win, but it can be like a rest day

for the other teams; once they're two minutes down, they can coast in and

rest up for tomorrow. However, all riders do still have to make the time

cut.



Craig



-----Original Message-----

From: Pat Sagers [mailto:pat_s-@orcom.com]

Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 11:33 AM

To: 'ob-@topica.com'

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] yellow yellow





Question on this. Why is Jan only 55 seconds down when USPS TT team beat

everyone by over a minute?



Thanks

Pat



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Subject: [OBRA Chat] yellow yellow





TTT=USPS=win!     Lance in yellow....JAN=55 sec down...

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<DIV><SPAN class=449393418-07072004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The

reason Jan and Tyler lost less time than it would appear is because the tour

organizers fixed it this year so that the fast TTT teams wouldn't put too much

time on the slower ones. Placement, not time,  is all that matters this

year. Second place team loses 20 seconds whether they actually finish one second

or four minutes behind the winners. Third and fourth etc. lose another 10

seconds each down to about fifteenth place, and then they only lose 5 seconds

per place. Last place team loses less than three minutes regardless of the time.

Big incentive to win, but it can be like a rest day for the other teams;

once they're two minutes down, they can coast in and rest up for tomorrow.

However, all riders do still have to make the time cut.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=449393418-07072004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff

size=2>Craig</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Pat Sagers

[mailto:pat_s-@orcom.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 07, 2004 11:33

AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'ob-@topica.com'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [OBRA Chat] yellow

yellow<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=716053218-07072004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff

size=2>Question on this.  Why is Jan only 55 seconds down when USPS TT

team beat everyone by over a minute?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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<DIV><SPAN class=716053218-07072004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff

size=2>Thanks</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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size=2>Pat</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>TTT=USPS=win!     Lance in

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