Re: Tacks on the road and Larch Mountain...

E-Racer

2004-07-07



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From what I understand, the city and county are already aware of this issue. Last year at the second annual renewed Larch Mtn TT we did infact have tacks thrown in several places along the eastbound bike lane/shoulder. We also had a near accident of rider and pedestrian when two riders racing up the wrong side of the road to avoid the tacks nearly hitting a pedestrian out walking a stroller containing his 2 year old daughter.



Both of those issues were addressed in our community/race debriefing. Working with OBRA officials to remind riders of their responsibility to follow the rules of the road when not actually racing helped emphasize to racers that it only takes one or two people to violate a race permit and put future events in jeopardy. When you are on a bike you are an ambassador of our sport to the community whether warming up, racing, or cooling down. That said though, the community - just like OBRA - was upset that the actions of one (or even a couple of) rogue members could adversely affect their reputation. City and county officials were notified and as it was explained to the Larch Mtn promoters, the responsible parties were identified and personally addressed by members of the community, county, and law enforcement.



It is my understanding based on a conversatin today, that the community is doing everything it can to once again address this latest issue. The neighborhood association and the community safety board are not taking this lightly and are once again pursuing this. They realize that the actions of a few can adversely affect public perception which they have been working hard to better develop. While it appears some do not want cyclists or sporting events in the area, the community as a whole understands that sports, tourism, and recreation play a huge role in their economy and therefore livelyhood. They would like cyclist to continue to visit. Currently there are several events scheduled in the area among them the PWTC's Torture 10K.



Based on conversations along with discussions following last years event and the efforts of the community there were tentative plans for a 2004 Larch Mtn TT event. However scheduling issues for an open weekend initially caused us to cancel this year's event. I have had many, many people ask about and request that Larch Mtn be brought back not just in 2005, but this year as well. That said, after conversations with the community today we are looking into the possibility of a 2004 Larch Mtn event. Anyone interested in the venue or helping put this together, please let me know.



Best wishes,

Ernie E-Racer Conway







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From: David Hart

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Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 7:04 AM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Tacks on the road





Would it be somewhat useful to contact the city/county about this? Isn't it malicious mischief or something of a crime? I saw tons of tacks on the road last year at the Larch TT. . I have this feeling it is adults and not kids. How immature.







David Hart

North River Racing

Southwest Washington's Cycling team!

http://www.northriverracing.org

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    From: Andrew Beehler

    To: obra ; Tan-@topica.com

    Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 7:15 PM

    Subject: [OBRA Chat] Tacks on the road





    Today I was riding the historic highway out to crown point. On the stretch Between Springdale and Corbet I picked up three thumb tacks in my front tire. I chanced my tube once, but ended up riding home with one tack in. I also passed another rider who had piched up a tack. I think this may be a repeat of the tack distribution that we encountered at the Larch Mtn. TT last summer, Be careful if you ride out there, and take at least two spare tubes, or a bunch of patches. Enjoy the weather.

        Andrew

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>From what I understand, the city and

county are already aware of this issue. Last year at the second annual renewed

Larch Mtn TT we did infact have tacks thrown in several places along the

eastbound bike lane/shoulder. We also had a near accident of rider and

pedestrian when two riders racing up the wrong side of the road to avoid

the tacks nearly hitting a pedestrian out walking a stroller containing his

2 year old daughter. </FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Both of those issues were addressed

in our community/race debriefing. Working with OBRA officials to remind riders

of their responsibility to follow the rules of the road when not actually racing

helped emphasize to racers that it only takes one or two people to violate

a race permit and put future events in jeopardy. When you are on a bike you

are an ambassador of our sport to the community whether warming up, racing,

or cooling down. That said though, the community - just like OBRA - was upset

that the actions of one (or even a couple of) rogue members could adversely

affect their reputation. City and county officials were notified and as it

was explained to the Larch Mtn promoters, the responsible parties were

identified and personally addressed by members of the community, county, and law

enforcement.  </FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2> </FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>It is my understanding based on a

conversatin today, that the community is doing everything it can to once again

address this latest issue. The neighborhood association and the community safety

board are not taking this lightly and are once again pursuing this. They realize

that the actions of a few can adversely affect public perception which they have

been working hard to better develop. While it appears some do not want cyclists

or sporting events in the area, the community as a whole understands that

sports, tourism, and recreation play a huge role in their economy and therefore

livelyhood. They would like cyclist to continue to visit. Currently there are

several events scheduled in the area among them the PWTC's Torture

10K.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Based on conversations along

with discussions following last years event and the efforts of the

community there were tentative plans for a 2004 Larch Mtn TT event. However

scheduling issues for an open weekend initially caused us to cancel this

year's event.  I have had many, many people ask about and request that

Larch Mtn be brought back not just in 2005, but this year as well. That said,

after conversations with the community today we are looking into the possibility

of a 2004 Larch Mtn event. Anyone interested in the venue or helping put this

together, please let me know. </FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Best wishes,</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Ernie E-Racer Conway</FONT></DIV>

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<DIV>Would it be somewhat useful to contact the city/county about this? 

Isn't it malicious mischief or something of a crime?  I saw tons of tacks

on the road last year at the Larch TT.  . I have this feeling it is

adults and not kids. How immature.</DIV>

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<DIV>David Hart<BR>North River Racing <BR>Southwest Washington's Cycling team!

<BR><A title=http://www.northriverracing.org/

href="http://www.northriverracing.org">http://www.northriverracing.org</A></DIV>

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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A

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    href="mailto:andyc-@hotmail.com">Andrew Beehler</A> </DIV>

    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=mailto:ob-@topica.com

    href="mailto:ob-@topica.com">obra</A> ; <A title=mailto:Tan-@topica.com

    href="mailto:Tan-@topica.com">Tan-@topica.com</A> </DIV>

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    PM</DIV>

    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [OBRA Chat] Tacks on the

    road</DIV>

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    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Today I was riding the historic highway out to

    crown point. On the stretch Between Springdale and Corbet I picked up three

    thumb tacks in my front tire. I chanced my tube once, but ended up riding

    home with one tack in. I also passed another rider who had piched up a tack.

    I think this may be a repeat of the tack distribution that we encountered at

    the Larch Mtn. TT last summer, Be careful if you ride out there, and take at

    least two spare tubes, or a bunch of patches. Enjoy the

weather.</FONT></DIV>

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