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I had a major wabble on a 50mph+ descent at the Columbia Plateau. I've
since tried to replicate the problem and can not when my knees tightly grip
the top tube. Another thing to remember a fast straight line descent is to
never, ever apply the front brakes. I think that's what got my wabble
started. A guy in front of me slowed and I just barely touched the front
brake. A small wabble started then quickly became a death defying huge
wabble.
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From: David Oliphant [mailto:davidol-@earthlink.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 2:15 PM
To: ob-@topica.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] High Speed Wobble/Shimmy
I was told that if you bike wobbles (which it shouldn't do) immediately
place your knee(s) against the top tube...it will subside. Also, the reason
why your bike wobbles in the first place is because the front end is too
light...causing it to shimmy. Riders have a tendency to lean back on a fast
descent...the best thing to do is lean forward a bit...putting your weight
over the handlebars/front wheel in a more aero position.
----- Original Message -----
From: Adams, Mike <mailto:mad-@huttig.com>
To: acar-@hotmail.com ; eri-@fusium.com ; ob-@topica.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:07 PM
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] High Speed Wobble/Shimmy
The road Erik is talking about is Laurelwood Road. Steep, straight and if
you really hammer you might hit 55+. To much fun!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Augusto C.D. Carneiro [mailto:acar-@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:01 PM
To: eri-@fusium.com; ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] High Speed Wobble/Shimmy
The key in Erik's message is: "keep your arms and shoulders relaxed"
My worst wobbles were last year at a race in the Manchester velodrome. I
Got sandwiched by two riders and my reaction (besides trying to backpedal)
was to grip the handlebars tighly. As the wobbles started, I freaked out and
gripped the handlebars even tighter, which made the wobbles way worse, until
I slowed down enough. I immediatly thought for sure there was something
wrong with my bike, but one of the coaches told me it was from the death
grip I applied on the Handlebars.
From: Erik Voldengen <eri-@fusium.com>
Reply-To: eri-@fusium.com
To: ob-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] High Speed Wobble/Shimmy
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:18:56 -0700
It's completely possible some of the people in that CCC stage have never
decended so fast before. It's very hard to come by such a huge decent.
Anyone in the PDX area that hasn't done it yet, I'd suggest going down Bald
Peak. I forget the name of the road, but it ends right at that store at
the
bottom of the hill. You can't miss it -- it's completely straight,
insanely
steep, and you will go faster than you've ever gone before. It's well
worth
riding for the experience. Keep your arms and shoulders relaxed. Be
careful, it's almost like a roller coaster ride.
I wish everyone a speedy recovery from the crash. Hope this message helps
at least one person.
-Erik
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<DIV><SPAN class=310295021-14072004><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=428582622-14072004>I </SPAN>had a major wabble on a
50mph+ descent at the Columbia Plateau. I've since tried to replicate the
problem and can not when my knees <SPAN
class=428582622-14072004>tightly </SPAN>grip the top tube. Another
thing to <SPAN class=428582622-14072004>remember </SPAN>a <SPAN
class=428582622-14072004>fast</SPAN> <SPAN
class=428582622-14072004>straight line </SPAN>descent is to <SPAN
class=428582622-14072004>never, ever </SPAN>apply the front brakes. I
think that's what got my wabble started.<SPAN class=428582622-14072004> A
guy in front of me slowed and I just barely touched the front brake. A
small wabble started then quickly became a death defying huge
wabble. </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left><EM><FONT face=Arial size=2>_________________</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV align=left><EM><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jon Nigbor</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV align=left><EM><FONT face=Arial size=2>President</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV align=left><EM><FONT face=Arial size=2>Consumer Care
Corporation</FONT></EM></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> David Oliphant
[mailto:davidol-@earthlink.net] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 14, 2004
2:15 PM<BR><B>To:</B> ob-@topica.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OBRA Chat] High
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I was told that if you bike wobbles (which it
shouldn't do) immediately place your knee(s) against the top tube...it will
subside. Also, the reason why your bike wobbles in the first place is because
the front end is too light...causing it to shimmy. Riders have a tendency
to lean back on a fast descent...the best thing to do is lean forward a
bit...putting your weight over the handlebars/front wheel in a more aero
position.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=720380420-14072004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
road Erik is talking about is Laurelwood Road. Steep, straight and if you
really hammer you might hit 55+. To much fun!!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Augusto C.D. Carneiro
[mailto:acar-@hotmail.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:01
PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:eri-@fusium.com">eri-@fusium.com</A>; <A
href="mailto:ob-@topica.com">ob-@topica.com</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[OBRA Chat] High Speed Wobble/Shimmy<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P>The key in Erik's message is: "keep your arms and shoulders
relaxed"</P>
<P>My worst wobbles were last year at a race in the Manchester
velodrome. I Got sandwiched by two riders and my reaction (besides
trying to backpedal) was to grip the handlebars tighly. As the wobbles
started, I freaked out and gripped the handlebars even tighter, which made
the wobbles way worse, until I slowed down enough. I immediatly
thought for sure there was something wrong with my bike, but one of the
coaches told me it was from the death grip I applied on the
Handlebars.<BR><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>From: Erik Voldengen <eri-@fusium.com>
<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: eri-@fusium.com
<DIV></DIV>>To: ob-@topica.com
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] High Speed Wobble/Shimmy
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:18:56 -0700
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>It's completely possible some of the people in that CCC stage
have never
<DIV></DIV>>decended so fast before. It's very hard to come by
such a huge decent.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Anyone in the PDX area that hasn't done it yet, I'd suggest
going down Bald
<DIV></DIV>>Peak. I forget the name of the road, but it ends
right at that store at the
<DIV></DIV>>bottom of the hill. You can't miss it -- it's
completely straight, insanely
<DIV></DIV>>steep, and you will go faster than you've ever gone
before. It's well worth
<DIV></DIV>>riding for the experience. Keep your arms and
shoulders relaxed. Be
<DIV></DIV>>careful, it's almost like a roller coaster ride.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>I wish everyone a speedy recovery from the
crash. Hope this message helps
<DIV></DIV>>at least one person.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>-Erik
<DIV></DIV>>
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<DIV></DIV>>To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org
<DIV></DIV>>To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com
<DIV></DIV>>
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