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The one I like is upper Burnside, Skyline down to Uptown. A few summers ago I drafted a "murderbike" down it and when I got to the first stop light at 23rd, the "murderbike" rider said we hit 62mph. I found it hard to drift out the back of his draft due to the "dirty air" so I stay with him till he slowed down for me.



Anyway that's my story and I'm sticking to it...



".David.Auker." <Dav-@Hevanet.com> wrote:

A thread re-visited!



Here's a good one, short and f-a-s-t: Bergis Rd, zooming west from Upper

Cherry Lane, above Hwy 43, and Marylhurst University...just south of Lake

Oswego.



56mph, and the drop is only about 1/4 mile long, so it's a very quick

acceleration. Straight and good visibility, with an "arrester" roller right

after the fast part, so very little braking from the fast part out to where

it connects to Stafford.



To get there, Cherry Lane & Upper Cherry Lane from Hwy 43...it's a very

"cherry" climb! Anyone know what this ridge is called, it's geographical

name? On the map it's "Marylhurst Heights" and "Hidden Springs;" think it's

part of the Tualitin Mountains?



David



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 The fastest descent I know is Wildcat Mountain road on the way to

Estacata.

 50mph plus easy!

Of course, you have to go up first.

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<DIV>The one I like is upper Burnside, Skyline down to Uptown.  A few summers ago I drafted a "murderbike" down it and when I got to the first stop light at 23rd, the "murderbike" rider said we hit 62mph.  I found it hard to drift out the back of his draft due to the "dirty air" so I stay with him till he slowed down for me.</DIV>

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When I was younger and perhaps less wise than I am now, I dragged my time trial bike to the top of Wier (rear disc, bladed spoke front), and sprinted down the first 200m from the top, coasting the rest of the way down. Just before hitting the bottom (there was no stop sign there then), in full aero position (aero bars) my computer read 67.5mph. Everything was going smoothly until I realized how messed up I would be if I crashed, and inadvertantly started to speed-wobble...



Fortunately, I was able to ride through the wobble and make the nice long coast to Murray Blvd.



-Rambo

Doug Evans

this is taken from http://www.speedski.com/mountainbike.htm



I was totally stunned the first time that I saw the kilometre lance (KL) speed ski slope at Vars, France. I couldn't comprehend what was about to happen on that sheer ice wall reaching high into the sky.   That was back in January 1994, and French downhill demon Christian Taillefer was about to make history by becoming the first ever mountain biker to actually ride down the thing. It seemed crazy. I mean, we couldn't even stand up on the near vertical slopes, and this guy was going to hurl himself down at some ridiculous speed.



If Taillefer survived he would be making death defying history by becoming the fastest mountain biker on the planet. That day Christian hit 111kph (97mph) within 300 metres and became a living legend."



-----Original Message-----

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Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 3:27 PM

To: dmando-@att.net; ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know





 At that speed and distance you have time to ponder things like, "what if

I blow a tire, and just how much of this lycra will melt to my skin.

That's why I was really digging SW Bergis, south of Lake Oswego: 1/4 mile,

56 mph quickly, then back to more normal speeds! Short and sweet!



David





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To: <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 2:50 PM

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 This descent is not in Oregon so don't shoot me, but it's the fastest

descent I have been on. The Everest Challenge stage race in Bishop

California has a descent that the riders can hit 65mph on for 5 minutes.



Since the thread reads "fastest descent I know" this should qualify.



At that speed and distance you have time to ponder things like, "what if

I blow a tire, and just how much of this lycra will melt to my skin.









D'Man

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.David.Auker.

 At that speed and distance you have time to ponder things like, "what if

I blow a tire, and just how much of this lycra will melt to my skin.

That's why I was really digging SW Bergis, south of Lake Oswego: 1/4 mile,

56 mph quickly, then back to more normal speeds! Short and sweet!



David





----- Original Message -----

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Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 2:50 PM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know





 This descent is not in Oregon so don't shoot me, but it's the fastest

descent I have been on. The Everest Challenge stage race in Bishop

California has a descent that the riders can hit 65mph on for 5 minutes.



Since the thread reads "fastest descent I know" this should qualify.



At that speed and distance you have time to ponder things like, "what if

I blow a tire, and just how much of this lycra will melt to my skin.









D'Man

Donovan Douglas

This descent is not in Oregon so don't shoot me, but it's the fastest

descent I have been on. The Everest Challenge stage race in Bishop

California has a descent that the riders can hit 65mph on for 5 minutes.



Since the thread reads "fastest descent I know" this should qualify.



At that speed and distance you have time to ponder things like, "what if

I blow a tire, and just how much of this lycra will melt to my skin.









D'Man

Eric Kytola

it was 1989. a freind and i saw an article about GPVs (gravity propelled vehichles) and we made our own. we converted our BMX bikes into downhill coasters. we took the handlebars off, turned them around, upside down and remounted them. the cross bar on the bars only had an inch or two of clearance over the front tire. we took our lay back seatpost out, flipped them around and put the saddles on the end that was normally in the frame. we removed the crank arms and chain. we left the spindle from the BB sticking out to act as foot pegs.



we found a friend to shuttle us to the top of hills out in the country. we found a nice steep, curvy dead end one. we would start the descent with our friend driving his 69 impalla SS right behind us. there was a straight section in the middle of the hill and through the corner at the bottom we would always out corner the impala. through the straight section the impala would shadow us at speeds of 65mph regularly. we were still accelerating when the impala hit the brakes to make the corner. there was a mailbox on the exact apex on the inside of that corner. we needed to use the entire road to make the corner. we were so low to the ground and were going so fast at that point that our heads had to go under the mailbox to make the corner.



it took a good 1/4 mile of being on both brakes to stop the bikes on the flat run out at the bottom.



i often wonder how fast we were really going after that corner. i know it was more than 65mph.



a guy on a road bike tried it once. he ended up in blackberry bush about 30 feet off the road, the outside of the mailbox corner. he said something about his bike shaking right before he crashed.



-----Original Message-----

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Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 10:58 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know





that is by far the fastest descent around eugene, im sure. ive cracked

80kmph (50mph for the mile lovers) going down dillard, and in a couple

of other places, but 88 going down willamette after riding the brakes

and sitting up a good bit due to traffic, etc. its hard to go slow, and

im sure i could get going a heck of a lot faster but the stoplight at

the bottom and inattentive cars make it dangerous enough at 60kmph let

alone 90+.

the only other time i got going that fast was when i was doing a similar

speed at the cascade classic this year when the poor guy crashed in the

first stage of the 3-4-5's... enough to kill the urge to bomb downhill

soon.





Chris Brandt wrote:

 

Hi,



My top speed was 63 mph coming down the north side of Willamette Street

into Eugene about 6 years ago. This was the hill where I learned how

innapropriate it is to ride a bicycle this fast in urban areas. As I was



flying down the hill in a tight tuck position, a car pulled out in front



of me to travel in the same lane down the hill. Unfortunately, there was



also an oncoming car climbing up the hill. I ended up riding in between

them on the yellow dashed stripe well above 50. Interesting to note is

that I was passing a cemetary too!?



That scared me enough to only hit those kind of speeds now when I'm

racing. Remember, if you get a flat at that speed, and/or have something



like a car or deer jump out in front, it won't be a fun experience, IF

you remember it! :)



Chris

Disclaimer:

All opions expressed are my own and only my own, and do not reflect the

opions or stand of my teammates, my team's sponsors, my employer, my

relatives, my girlfreind, my former college drinking buddies, or anyone

else with whom I have ever had an association, so gripes are to be

directed at myself and only at myself.



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Martel, Matthew S

Wow! Some of you guys have hit some serious speeds! 63 mph! I have never

gone this fast on a bike!



My new top speed on a bicycle came just a few weeks ago. It was in

France coming down the Col de Lautaret into Briancon. A steep section

followed by a gradual run out all on smooth pavement. I hit 86kph

(54.5mph)! I have to mention that in order to get there I had to climb

the Col de Telegraph and the Col de Galibier. Descending the Col de

Galibier is not fast because it has so many switchbacks. I actually like

this type of descending better because in order to do it well you have

to really know how to handle a bike...something I have really worked on

and really pride myself on.



Thanks for sharing all your experiences with speed! It is inspiring!



Matt Martel

Corvallis

EWEB Windpower Racing Team



-----Original Message-----

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Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 10:27 AM

To: chris_br-@hotmail.com; ob-@topica.com

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Chris, you're right. The speed limit is 35 mph on Weir road for a good

reason. Last year, a motor cyclist was killed by a car that pulled out

in front of him on that same section of road I mentioned. Right or

wrong, he is dead and the car driver has to live with the memory that

they killed someone.



A steep mountain bike trail gives me many more times the excitement and

it's probably safer for me and anyone I may approach.   By the way, 34

mph on Fire Lane 7 in Forrest Park (hardtail bike).



Brian





-----Original Message-----

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Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 8:54 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know



Hi,



My top speed was 63 mph coming down the north side of Willamette Street

into Eugene about 6 years ago. This was the hill where I learned how

innapropriate it is to ride a bicycle this fast in urban areas. As I was



flying down the hill in a tight tuck position, a car pulled out in front



of me to travel in the same lane down the hill. Unfortunately, there was



also an oncoming car climbing up the hill. I ended up riding in between

them on the yellow dashed stripe well above 50. Interesting to note is

that I was passing a cemetary too!?



That scared me enough to only hit those kind of speeds now when I'm

racing. Remember, if you get a flat at that speed, and/or have something



like a car or deer jump out in front, it won't be a fun experience, IF

you remember it! :)



Chris



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galen mittermann

that is by far the fastest descent around eugene, im sure. ive cracked

80kmph (50mph for the mile lovers) going down dillard, and in a couple

of other places, but 88 going down willamette after riding the brakes

and sitting up a good bit due to traffic, etc. its hard to go slow, and

im sure i could get going a heck of a lot faster but the stoplight at

the bottom and inattentive cars make it dangerous enough at 60kmph let

alone 90+.

the only other time i got going that fast was when i was doing a similar

speed at the cascade classic this year when the poor guy crashed in the

first stage of the 3-4-5's... enough to kill the urge to bomb downhill

soon.





Chris Brandt wrote:

 

Hi,



My top speed was 63 mph coming down the north side of Willamette Street

into Eugene about 6 years ago. This was the hill where I learned how

innapropriate it is to ride a bicycle this fast in urban areas. As I was



flying down the hill in a tight tuck position, a car pulled out in front



of me to travel in the same lane down the hill. Unfortunately, there was



also an oncoming car climbing up the hill. I ended up riding in between

them on the yellow dashed stripe well above 50. Interesting to note is

that I was passing a cemetary too!?



That scared me enough to only hit those kind of speeds now when I'm

racing. Remember, if you get a flat at that speed, and/or have something



like a car or deer jump out in front, it won't be a fun experience, IF

you remember it! :)



Chris

Disclaimer:

All opions expressed are my own and only my own, and do not reflect the

opions or stand of my teammates, my team's sponsors, my employer, my

relatives, my girlfreind, my former college drinking buddies, or anyone

else with whom I have ever had an association, so gripes are to be

directed at myself and only at myself.

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Anyone else remember the descent from Santiam Pass, Cascade Cycling Classic,

probably 1984. The 7-eleven team was there. Nobody had spedos then, but the

follow cars were doing 60 as we were pulling away. They couldn't keep up due

to the RV traffic. Fortunately, a state trooper was there, and drove ahead to

force oncoming traffic onto the shoulder. We must have been doing 65 or more

for a 3-4 mile stretch. I don't remember anyone talking about bike wobblies

back then.



-Steven Mullen.



In a message dated 8/10/2004 8:17:51 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

Dav-@Hevanet.com writes:

Good description of this little wall! As far as top speed goes, weather

conditions will play a role, but I think an aero coasting position is faster than

pedalling in cases like this.



Just say "no" to floppy cycling clothing!



David





----- Original Message -----

From: John Schader

To: Dav-@Hevanet.com ; ob-@topica.com

Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 11:47 PM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know





David,



Yes, that is an exhilarating downhill run. With a running start from Skyland

Drive in 53x12 I've "only" hit 54 mph coming down Bergis Rd. (the fastest I've

ever gone on a bicycle). It's a challenging little 1/4 mile climb going the

other way, and rather dangerous too, because it's so steep that cars

approaching from the top are blind to what's coming up the hill. One must avoid

traversing and just keep way right, riding a straight line no matter what. However,

the descent is straight and clear once you are on it and the road that enters

from the right at the bottom (SW Cornell Rd.) has a stop sign. It is an ideal

roller coaster run with an uphill "runaway truck ramp" to slow you down before

the road starts to curve. I think the ridge it's on, running from L.O. on

through West Linn is all part of the Rosemont Ridge, which I suppose could still be

part of the Tualatin Mountains. What do you think the percent grade is on

Bergis? Maybe 18 - 20% or more?





".David.Auker." <Dav-@Hevanet.com> wrote:

To clarify:



I said:

 ...so very little braking from the fast part out to where

it connects to Stafford.

That's Stafford Rd.



David







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From: ".David.Auker." <dav-@hevanet.com>

To: <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 10:30 PM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know





 A thread re-visited!



Here's a good one, short and f-a-s-t: Bergis Rd, zooming west from Upper

Cherry Lane, above Hwy 43, and Marylhurst University...just south of Lake

Oswego.



56mph, and the drop is only about 1/4 mile long, so it's a very quick

acceleration. Straight and good visibility, with an "arrester" roller

right

 after the fast part, so very little braking from the fast part out to

where

 it connects to Stafford.



To get there, Cherry Lane & Upper Cherry Lane from Hwy 43...it's a very

"cherry" climb! Anyone know what this ridge is called, it's geographical

name? On the map it's "Marylhurst Heights" and "Hidden Springs;" think

it's

 part of the Tualitin Mountains?



David



----- Original Message -----

From: "Dan H" <br-@politesociety.com>

To: "OBRA list" <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 3:24 PM

Subject: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know





 The fastest descent I know is Wildcat Mountain road on the way to

Estacata.

 50mph plus easy!

Of course, you have to go up first.

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<DIV>Anyone else remember the descent from Santiam Pass, Cascade Cycling Classic, probably 1984.  The 7-eleven team was there.  Nobody had spedos then, but the follow cars were doing 60 as we were pulling away.  They couldn't keep up due to the RV traffic.  Fortunately, a state trooper was there, and drove ahead to force oncoming traffic onto the shoulder.  We must have been doing 65 or more for a 3-4 mile stretch.  I don't remember anyone talking about bike wobblies back then.</DIV>

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<DIV><FONT face=Garamond color=#808080 size=4>Good description of this little wall!  As far as top speed goes, weather conditions will play a role, but I think an aero coasting position is faster than pedalling in cases like this.</FONT></DIV>

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<DIV><FONT face=Garamond color=#808080 size=4>Just say "no" to floppy cycling clothing!</FONT></DIV>

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<DIV>Yes, that is an exhilarating downhill run. With a running start from Skyland Drive in 53x12 I've "only" hit 54 mph coming down Bergis Rd. (the fastest I've ever gone on a bicycle). It's a challenging little 1/4 mile climb going the other way, and rather dangerous too, because it's so steep that cars approaching from the top are blind to what's coming up the hill. One must avoid traversing and just keep way right, riding a straight line no matter what. However, the descent is straight and clear once you are on it and the road that enters from the right at the bottom (SW Cornell Rd.) has a stop sign. It is an ideal roller coaster run with an uphill "runaway truck ramp" to slow you down before the road starts to curve. I think the ridge it's on, running from L.O. on through West Linn is all part of the Rosemont Ridge, which I suppose could still be part of the Tualatin Mountains. What do you think the percent grade is on Bergis? Maybe 18 - 20% or more?<BR><BR><BR><B><I>".David.Auker." <Dav-@Hevanet.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>

<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">To clarify:<BR><BR>I said:<BR>>...so very little braking from the fast part out to where<BR>> it connects to Stafford.<BR><BR><BR>That's Stafford Rd.<BR><BR>David<BR><BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: ".David.Auker." <dav-@hevanet.com><BR>To: <ob-@topica.com><BR>Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 10:30 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know<BR><BR><BR>> A thread re-visited!<BR>><BR>> Here's a good one, short and f-a-s-t: Bergis Rd, zooming west from Upper<BR>> Cherry Lane, above Hwy 43, and Marylhurst University...just south of Lake<BR>> Oswego.<BR>><BR>> 56mph, and the drop is only about 1/4 mile long, so it's a very quick<BR>> acceleration. Straight and good visibility, with an "arrester" roller<BR>right<BR>> after the fast part, so very little braking from the fast part out to<BR>where<BR>> it connects to Stafford.<BR>><BR>> To get there, Cherry Lane & Upper Cherry Lane from Hwy 43...it's a very<BR>> "cherry" climb! Anyone know what this ridge is called, it's geographical<BR>> name? On the map it's "Marylhurst Heights" and "Hidden Springs;" think<BR>it's<BR>> part of the Tualitin Mountains?<BR>><BR>> David<BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> From: "Dan H" <br-@politesociety.com><BR>> To: "OBRA list" <ob-@topica.com><BR>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 3:24 PM<BR>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know<BR>><BR>><BR>> > The fastest descent I know is Wildcat Mountain road on the way to<BR>> Estacata.<BR>> > 50mph plus easy!<BR>> > Of course, you have to go up first.<BR>> ></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>

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Chris Brandt

I meant: North side of Spencer Butte, on Willamette St...





Chris Brandt wrote:

 

Hi,



My top speed was 63 mph coming down the north side of Willamette Street

into Eugene about 6 years ago.

Brad Cockman, DC

Highway 267 (Brockway Summit) out of Kings Beach up at North Lake Tahoe:

62 mph, following a guy on an old worn out Vitus frame. I hit this speed

while going around him as he was getting the dreaded wobs.

He stayed upright.



BTW back in 86 or 87 the Coors Classic climbed up this mofo, went thru

Incline Village down into Carson City, up the back way thru Virginia

City and finished in Reno. Brutal stage that I think LeMond won in front

of the hometown crowd.





Chris Brandt wrote:

 

Hi,



My top speed was 63 mph coming down the north side of Willamette Street

into Eugene about 6 years ago. This was the hill where I learned how

innapropriate it is to ride a bicycle this fast in urban areas. As I was



flying down the hill in a tight tuck position, a car pulled out in front



of me to travel in the same lane down the hill. Unfortunately, there was



also an oncoming car climbing up the hill. I ended up riding in between

them on the yellow dashed stripe well above 50. Interesting to note is

that I was passing a cemetary too!?



That scared me enough to only hit those kind of speeds now when I'm

racing. Remember, if you get a flat at that speed, and/or have something



like a car or deer jump out in front, it won't be a fun experience, IF

you remember it! :)



Chris

Brian

Chris, you're right. The speed limit is 35 mph on Weir road for a good

reason. Last year, a motor cyclist was killed by a car that pulled out

in front of him on that same section of road I mentioned. Right or

wrong, he is dead and the car driver has to live with the memory that

they killed someone.



A steep mountain bike trail gives me many more times the excitement and

it's probably safer for me and anyone I may approach.   By the way, 34

mph on Fire Lane 7 in Forrest Park (hardtail bike).



Brian





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Hi,



My top speed was 63 mph coming down the north side of Willamette Street

into Eugene about 6 years ago. This was the hill where I learned how

innapropriate it is to ride a bicycle this fast in urban areas. As I was



flying down the hill in a tight tuck position, a car pulled out in front



of me to travel in the same lane down the hill. Unfortunately, there was



also an oncoming car climbing up the hill. I ended up riding in between

them on the yellow dashed stripe well above 50. Interesting to note is

that I was passing a cemetary too!?



That scared me enough to only hit those kind of speeds now when I'm

racing. Remember, if you get a flat at that speed, and/or have something



like a car or deer jump out in front, it won't be a fun experience, IF

you remember it! :)



Chris



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Hi,



My top speed was 63 mph coming down the north side of Willamette Street

into Eugene about 6 years ago. This was the hill where I learned how

innapropriate it is to ride a bicycle this fast in urban areas. As I was

flying down the hill in a tight tuck position, a car pulled out in front

of me to travel in the same lane down the hill. Unfortunately, there was

also an oncoming car climbing up the hill. I ended up riding in between

them on the yellow dashed stripe well above 50. Interesting to note is

that I was passing a cemetary too!?



That scared me enough to only hit those kind of speeds now when I'm

racing. Remember, if you get a flat at that speed, and/or have something

like a car or deer jump out in front, it won't be a fun experience, IF

you remember it! :)



Chris

Ron Magnus

Indeed I am speaking of the Portland metro area and all altitudes are msl

(Mean Sea Level). It's been a long time since I messed with Weir Rd.

Most of the time I go up that critter to Steve Wright's house.



Ron



On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Brian wrote:



 I assume your talking about the Portland area, at sea level.



Weir road in Beaverton gets my 150 lbs. up to 52mph on a regular basis.

There is no side traffic. Although, you have to stop at the bottom.





Brian



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A couple weeks ago, coming down from Bald Peak, heading East on Laurelwood, I

hit 59.5MPH on the descent. Easily the fastest I've eaver gone on a bike.

If you've never done it, it's a straight ramp down the mountain. All driveways

on the side easily exposed so there's no surprises from unwelcome pick-up

trucks and 4X4's.

Fun!

cp



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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><HTML><FONT SIZE=2 PTSIZE=10 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">A couple weeks ago, coming down from Bald Peak, heading East on Laurelwood, I hit 59.5MPH on the descent.  Easily the fastest I've eaver gone on a bike.  If you've never done it, it's a straight ramp down the mountain.  All driveways on the side easily exposed so there's no surprises from unwelcome pick-up trucks and 4X4's.<BR>

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Brian

I assume your talking about the Portland area, at sea level.



Weir road in Beaverton gets my 150 lbs. up to 52mph on a regular basis.

There is no side traffic. Although, you have to stop at the bottom.





Brian

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Good description of this little wall! As far as top speed goes, weather conditions will play a role, but I think an aero coasting position is faster than pedalling in cases like this.



Just say "no" to floppy cycling clothing!



David





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Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 11:47 PM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know





David,



Yes, that is an exhilarating downhill run. With a running start from Skyland Drive in 53x12 I've "only" hit 54 mph coming down Bergis Rd. (the fastest I've ever gone on a bicycle). It's a challenging little 1/4 mile climb going the other way, and rather dangerous too, because it's so steep that cars approaching from the top are blind to what's coming up the hill. One must avoid traversing and just keep way right, riding a straight line no matter what. However, the descent is straight and clear once you are on it and the road that enters from the right at the bottom (SW Cornell Rd.) has a stop sign. It is an ideal roller coaster run with an uphill "runaway truck ramp" to slow you down before the road starts to curve. I think the ridge it's on, running from L.O. on through West Linn is all part of the Rosemont Ridge, which I suppose could still be part of the Tualatin Mountains. What do you think the percent grade is on Bergis? Maybe 18 - 20% or more?





".David.Auker." <Dav-@Hevanet.com> wrote:

    To clarify:



    I said:

    >...so very little braking from the fast part out to where

    > it connects to Stafford.





    That's Stafford Rd.



    David







    ----- Original Message -----

    From: ".David.Auker."

    To:

    Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 10:30 PM

    Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know





    > A thread re-visited!

    >

    > Here's a good one, short and f-a-s-t: Bergis Rd, zooming west from Upper

    > Cherry Lane, above Hwy 43, and Marylhurst University...just south of Lake

    > Oswego.

    >

    > 56mph, and the drop is only about 1/4 mile long, so it's a very quick

    > acceleration. Straight and good visibility, with an "arrester" roller

    right

    > after the fast part, so very little braking from the fast part out to

    where

    > it connects to Stafford.

    >

    > To get there, Cherry Lane & Upper Cherry Lane from Hwy 43...it's a very

    > "cherry" climb! Anyone know what this ridge is called, it's geographical

    > name? On the map it's "Marylhurst Heights" and "Hidden Springs;" think

    it's

    > part of the Tualitin Mountains?

    >

    > David

    >

    > ----- Original Message -----

    > From: "Dan H"

    > To: "OBRA list"

    > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 3:24 PM

    > Subject: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know

    >

    >

    > > The fastest descent I know is Wildcat Mountain road on the way to

    > Estacata.

    > > 50mph plus easy!

    > > Of course, you have to go up first.

    > >

    >

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<DIV><FONT face=Garamond color=#808080 size=4>Good description of this little

wall!  As far as top speed goes, weather conditions will play a role, but I

think an aero coasting position is faster than pedalling in cases like

this.</FONT></DIV>

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<DIV><FONT face=Garamond color=#808080 size=4>Just say "no" to floppy cycling

clothing!</FONT></DIV>

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<DIV><FONT face=Garamond color=#808080 size=4>David</FONT></DIV>

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<DIV>Yes, that is an exhilarating downhill run. With a running start from

Skyland Drive in 53x12 I've "only" hit 54 mph coming down Bergis Rd. (the

fastest I've ever gone on a bicycle). It's a challenging little 1/4 mile

climb going the other way, and rather dangerous too, because it's so steep

that cars approaching from the top are blind to what's coming up the hill. One

must avoid traversing and just keep way right, riding a straight line no

matter what. However, the descent is straight and clear once you are on it and

the road that enters from the right at the bottom (SW Cornell Rd.) has a

stop sign. It is an ideal roller coaster run with an uphill "runaway truck

ramp" to slow you down before the road starts to curve. I think the ridge it's

on, running from L.O. on through West Linn is all part of the Rosemont

Ridge, which I suppose could still be part of the Tualatin

Mountains. What do you think the percent grade is on Bergis? Maybe 18 - 20% or

more?<BR><BR><BR><B><I>".David.Auker." <Dav-@Hevanet.com></I></B>

wrote:</DIV>

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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">To

    clarify:<BR><BR>I said:<BR>>...so very little braking from the fast part

    out to where<BR>> it connects to Stafford.<BR><BR><BR>That's Stafford

    Rd.<BR><BR>David<BR><BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From:

    ".David.Auker." <DAV-@HEVANET.COM><BR>To: <OB-@TOPICA.COM><BR>Sent:

    Monday, August 09, 2004 10:30 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] The fastest

    descent I know<BR><BR><BR>> A thread re-visited!<BR>><BR>> Here's a

    good one, short and f-a-s-t: Bergis Rd, zooming west from Upper<BR>>

    Cherry Lane, above Hwy 43, and Marylhurst University...just south of

    Lake<BR>> Oswego.<BR>><BR>> 56mph, and the drop is only about 1/4

    mile long, so it's a very quick<BR>> acceleration. Straight and good

    visibility, with an "arrester" roller<BR>right<BR>> after the fast part,

    so very little braking from the fast part out to<BR>where<BR>> it

    connects to Stafford.<BR>><BR>> To get there, Cherry Lane & Upper

    Cherry Lane from Hwy 43...it's a very<BR>> "cherry" climb! Anyone know

    what this ridge is called, it's geographical<BR>> name? On the map it's

    "Marylhurst Heights" and "Hidden Springs;" think<BR>it's<BR>> part of the

    Tualitin Mountains?<BR>><BR>> David<BR>><BR>> ----- Original

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    "OBRA list" <OB-@TOPICA.COM><BR>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 3:24

    PM<BR>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I

    know<BR>><BR>><BR>> > The fastest descent I know is Wildcat

    Mountain road on the way to<BR>> Estacata.<BR>> > 50mph plus

    easy!<BR>> > Of course, you have to go up first.<BR>>

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David,



Yes, that is an exhilarating downhill run. With a running start from Skyland Drive in 53x12 I've "only" hit 54 mph coming down Bergis Rd. (the fastest I've ever gone on a bicycle). It's a challenging little 1/4 mile climb going the other way, and rather dangerous too, because it's so steep that cars approaching from the top are blind to what's coming up the hill. One must avoid traversing and just keep way right, riding a straight line no matter what. However, the descent is straight and clear once you are on it and the road that enters from the right at the bottom (SW Cornell Rd.) has a stop sign. It is an ideal roller coaster run with an uphill "runaway truck ramp" to slow you down before the road starts to curve. I think the ridge it's on, running from L.O. on through West Linn is all part of the Rosemont Ridge, which I suppose could still be part of the Tualatin Mountains. What do you think the percent grade is on Bergis? Maybe 18 - 20% or more?





".David.Auker." <Dav-@Hevanet.com> wrote:

To clarify:



I said:

 ...so very little braking from the fast part out to where

it connects to Stafford.

That's Stafford Rd.



David







----- Original Message -----

From: ".David.Auker."

To:

Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 10:30 PM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know





 A thread re-visited!



Here's a good one, short and f-a-s-t: Bergis Rd, zooming west from Upper

Cherry Lane, above Hwy 43, and Marylhurst University...just south of Lake

Oswego.



56mph, and the drop is only about 1/4 mile long, so it's a very quick

acceleration. Straight and good visibility, with an "arrester" roller

right

 after the fast part, so very little braking from the fast part out to

where

 it connects to Stafford.



To get there, Cherry Lane & Upper Cherry Lane from Hwy 43...it's a very

"cherry" climb! Anyone know what this ridge is called, it's geographical

name? On the map it's "Marylhurst Heights" and "Hidden Springs;" think

it's

 part of the Tualitin Mountains?



David



----- Original Message -----

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 To: "OBRA list"

Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 3:24 PM

Subject: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know





 The fastest descent I know is Wildcat Mountain road on the way to

Estacata.

 50mph plus easy!

Of course, you have to go up first.

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<DIV>Yes, that is an exhilarating downhill run. With a running start from Skyland Drive in 53x12 I've "only" hit 54 mph coming down Bergis Rd. (the fastest I've ever gone on a bicycle). It's a challenging little 1/4 mile climb going the other way, and rather dangerous too, because it's so steep that cars approaching from the top are blind to what's coming up the hill. One must avoid traversing and just keep way right, riding a straight line no matter what. However, the descent is straight and clear once you are on it and the road that enters from the right at the bottom (SW Cornell Rd.) has a stop sign. It is an ideal roller coaster run with an uphill "runaway truck ramp" to slow you down before the road starts to curve. I think the ridge it's on, running from L.O. on through West Linn is all part of the Rosemont Ridge, which I suppose could still be part of the Tualatin Mountains. What do you think the percent grade is on Bergis? Maybe 18 - 20% or

more?<BR><BR><BR><B><I>".David.Auker." <Dav-@Hevanet.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>

<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">To clarify:<BR><BR>I said:<BR>>...so very little braking from the fast part out to where<BR>> it connects to Stafford.<BR><BR><BR>That's Stafford Rd.<BR><BR>David<BR><BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: ".David.Auker." <DAV-@HEVANET.COM><BR>To: <OB-@TOPICA.COM><BR>Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 10:30 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know<BR><BR><BR>> A thread re-visited!<BR>><BR>> Here's a good one, short and f-a-s-t: Bergis Rd, zooming west from Upper<BR>> Cherry Lane, above Hwy 43, and Marylhurst University...just south of Lake<BR>> Oswego.<BR>><BR>> 56mph, and the drop is only about 1/4 mile long, so it's a very quick<BR>> acceleration. Straight and good visibility, with an "arrester" roller<BR>right<BR>> after the fast part, so very little braking from the fast part out to<BR>where<BR>> it connects to

Stafford.<BR>><BR>> To get there, Cherry Lane & Upper Cherry Lane from Hwy 43...it's a very<BR>> "cherry" climb! Anyone know what this ridge is called, it's geographical<BR>> name? On the map it's "Marylhurst Heights" and "Hidden Springs;" think<BR>it's<BR>> part of the Tualitin Mountains?<BR>><BR>> David<BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> From: "Dan H" <BR-@POLITESOCIETY.COM><BR>> To: "OBRA list" <OB-@TOPICA.COM><BR>> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 3:24 PM<BR>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know<BR>><BR>><BR>> > The fastest descent I know is Wildcat Mountain road on the way to<BR>> Estacata.<BR>> > 50mph plus easy!<BR>> > Of course, you have to go up first.<BR>> ><BR>><BR>> To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.<BR>> To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org<BR>> To unsubscribe send to

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Andrew Beehler

My favorite descent is 110th in SE, coming down off of Mt. Tabor to Foster

Rd. About a 1.5 mile descent and I've topped 55 on it, and I'm sure that you

could do even faster. It's fairly long, and when it starts to get really

steep in the second half, it's very straight, just beware of cars.



Andrew



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From: ".David.Auker." <Dav-@Hevanet.com>

To: <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 10:30 PM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know





 A thread re-visited!



Here's a good one, short and f-a-s-t: Bergis Rd, zooming west from Upper

Cherry Lane, above Hwy 43, and Marylhurst University...just south of Lake

Oswego.



56mph, and the drop is only about 1/4 mile long, so it's a very quick

acceleration. Straight and good visibility, with an "arrester" roller

right

 after the fast part, so very little braking from the fast part out to

where

 it connects to Stafford.



To get there, Cherry Lane & Upper Cherry Lane from Hwy 43...it's a very

"cherry" climb! Anyone know what this ridge is called, it's geographical

name? On the map it's "Marylhurst Heights" and "Hidden Springs;" think

it's

 part of the Tualitin Mountains?



David



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To: "OBRA list" <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 3:24 PM

Subject: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know





 The fastest descent I know is Wildcat Mountain road on the way to

Estacata.

 50mph plus easy!

Of course, you have to go up first.

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.David.Auker.

To clarify:



I said:

 ...so very little braking from the fast part out to where

it connects to Stafford.

That's Stafford Rd.



David







----- Original Message -----

From: ".David.Auker." <Dav-@Hevanet.com>

To: <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 10:30 PM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know





 A thread re-visited!



Here's a good one, short and f-a-s-t: Bergis Rd, zooming west from Upper

Cherry Lane, above Hwy 43, and Marylhurst University...just south of Lake

Oswego.



56mph, and the drop is only about 1/4 mile long, so it's a very quick

acceleration. Straight and good visibility, with an "arrester" roller

right

 after the fast part, so very little braking from the fast part out to

where

 it connects to Stafford.



To get there, Cherry Lane & Upper Cherry Lane from Hwy 43...it's a very

"cherry" climb! Anyone know what this ridge is called, it's geographical

name? On the map it's "Marylhurst Heights" and "Hidden Springs;" think

it's

 part of the Tualitin Mountains?



David



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From: "Dan H" <br-@politesociety.com>

To: "OBRA list" <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 3:24 PM

Subject: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know





 The fastest descent I know is Wildcat Mountain road on the way to

Estacata.

 50mph plus easy!

Of course, you have to go up first.

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.David.Auker.

A thread re-visited!



Here's a good one, short and f-a-s-t: Bergis Rd, zooming west from Upper

Cherry Lane, above Hwy 43, and Marylhurst University...just south of Lake

Oswego.



56mph, and the drop is only about 1/4 mile long, so it's a very quick

acceleration. Straight and good visibility, with an "arrester" roller right

after the fast part, so very little braking from the fast part out to where

it connects to Stafford.



To get there, Cherry Lane & Upper Cherry Lane from Hwy 43...it's a very

"cherry" climb! Anyone know what this ridge is called, it's geographical

name? On the map it's "Marylhurst Heights" and "Hidden Springs;" think it's

part of the Tualitin Mountains?



David



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Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 3:24 PM

Subject: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know





 The fastest descent I know is Wildcat Mountain road on the way to

Estacata.

 50mph plus easy!

Of course, you have to go up first.

Dan H

The fastest descent I know is Wildcat Mountain road on the way to Estacata.

50mph plus easy!

Of course, you have to go up first.