Give it a rest

tom thompson

2000-11-27

delete button!!!

----- Original Message -----

From: "Jon Walpole" <Walp-@cse.ogi.edu>

To: <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 10:07 AM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Give it a rest





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I think that everyone who agrees with hitting the delete button

should send a message to the list so we can see how well this

solution scales. I guess everyone else can simply unsubscribe.

Sound like a good idea?



-- Jon



 I vote for hitting the delete button, also...



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It is a bit odd to complain about excessive posting by posting a

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with 27 attachments. Personally I just use the delete button to deal =

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all the messages that I don't want to read. There are currently no =

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for posting other then that you have to be a list member to post. Only =

OBRA=20

members can be list members. The postings are unmoderated because the =

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of moderating them was another thing added on top of what Candi already =

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for OBRA. Originally she had planned to have 2 lists, one open to all =

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like the current list, and one moderated to only contain race results =

and=20

announcements. There were complaints about that system, people felt =

they=20

either got too many messages or too few. In addition it still required =

time=20

to moderate.=20



If there are going to be more rules about use of the OBRA list then =

either=20

someone will need to step forward to volunteer to be the list moderator =

or=20

the rules will need to be self enforced. Personally I vote for just =

hitting=20

delete.=20



Mike Murray=20

-----Original Message-----=20

From: Mikey [ mailto:bikrm-@yahoo.com]=20

Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 3:25 AM=20

To: ob-@topica.com=20

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Give it a rest=20





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I am wondering what the rules are for email posting. It appears that =

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people are using our OBRA Chat forum for commercial purposes. Attached =

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several of Mr. John Lackeys excessive (in my humble opinion) emails =

since=20

October 3, 2000. I think we got the picture that the Raleigh 3 speeds =

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for sale on the first post, why are they posted 3 times? Everyone =

please=20

post your thoughts on how often it is appropriate for an individual to =

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good rule.=20



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tom thompson

2000-11-27

delete button!!!

----- Original Message -----

From: "Jon Walpole" <Walp-@cse.ogi.edu>

To: <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 10:07 AM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Give it a rest





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I think that everyone who agrees with hitting the delete button

should send a message to the list so we can see how well this

solution scales. I guess everyone else can simply unsubscribe.

Sound like a good idea?



-- Jon



 I vote for hitting the delete button, also...



   Mike Murray <mmur-@teleport.com> 11/24/00 09:24AM >>>=20

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It is a bit odd to complain about excessive posting by posting a

message=20=

 

with 27 attachments. Personally I just use the delete button to deal =

with=20

all the messages that I don't want to read. There are currently no =

rules=20

for posting other then that you have to be a list member to post. Only =

OBRA=20

members can be list members. The postings are unmoderated because the =

job=20

of moderating them was another thing added on top of what Candi already =

does=20

for OBRA. Originally she had planned to have 2 lists, one open to all =

posts=20

like the current list, and one moderated to only contain race results =

and=20

announcements. There were complaints about that system, people felt =

they=20

either got too many messages or too few. In addition it still required =

time=20

to moderate.=20



If there are going to be more rules about use of the OBRA list then =

either=20

someone will need to step forward to volunteer to be the list moderator =

or=20

the rules will need to be self enforced. Personally I vote for just =

hitting=20

delete.=20



Mike Murray=20

-----Original Message-----=20

From: Mikey [ mailto:bikrm-@yahoo.com]=20

Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 3:25 AM=20

To: ob-@topica.com=20

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Give it a rest=20





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I am wondering what the rules are for email posting. It appears that =

some=20

people are using our OBRA Chat forum for commercial purposes. Attached =

are=20

several of Mr. John Lackeys excessive (in my humble opinion) emails =

since=20

October 3, 2000. I think we got the picture that the Raleigh 3 speeds =

are=20

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Jon Walpole

2000-11-27

I think that everyone who agrees with hitting the delete button

should send a message to the list so we can see how well this

solution scales. I guess everyone else can simply unsubscribe.

Sound like a good idea?



-- Jon



 I vote for hitting the delete button, also...



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I vote for hitting the delete button, also...



   Mike Murray <mmur-@teleport.com> 11/24/00 09:24AM >>>=20

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all the messages that I don't want to read. There are currently no =

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for posting other then that you have to be a list member to post. Only =

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members can be list members. The postings are unmoderated because the =

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of moderating them was another thing added on top of what Candi already =

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for OBRA. Originally she had planned to have 2 lists, one open to all =

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announcements. There were complaints about that system, people felt =

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If there are going to be more rules about use of the OBRA list then =

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someone will need to step forward to volunteer to be the list moderator =

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the rules will need to be self enforced. Personally I vote for just =

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delete.=20



Mike Murray=20

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Mike Murray

2000-11-24

It is a bit odd to complain about excessive posting by posting a message

with 27 attachments. Personally I just use the delete button to deal with

all the messages that I don't want to read. There are currently no rules

for posting other then that you have to be a list member to post. Only OBRA

members can be list members. The postings are unmoderated because the job

of moderating them was another thing added on top of what Candi already does

for OBRA. Originally she had planned to have 2 lists, one open to all posts

like the current list, and one moderated to only contain race results and

announcements. There were complaints about that system, people felt they

either got too many messages or too few. In addition it still required time

to moderate.



If there are going to be more rules about use of the OBRA list then either

someone will need to step forward to volunteer to be the list moderator or

the rules will need to be self enforced. Personally I vote for just hitting

delete.



Mike Murray

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Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 3:25 AM

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I am wondering what the rules are for email posting. It appears that some

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several of Mr. John Lackeys excessive (in my humble opinion) emails since

October 3, 2000. I think we got the picture that the Raleigh 3 speeds are

for sale on the first post, why are they posted 3 times?   Everyone please

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sale items on OBRA Chat. I am thinking an average of once a week (max) is

good rule.



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I agree, slow down on the mass marketing approach.

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3 times?   Everyone please post your thoughts on how often it is =

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I am wondering what the rules are for email posting. It appears that some

people are using our OBRA Chat forum for commercial purposes. Attached are

several of Mr. John Lackeys excessive (in my humble opinion) emails since

October 3, 2000. I think we got the picture that the Raleigh 3 speeds are

for sale on the first post, why are they posted 3 times?   Everyone please

post your thoughts on how often it is appropriate for an individual to post

sale items on OBRA Chat. I am thinking an average of once a week (max) is

good rule.



What do you think?





Mike Martin

OBRA #523





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I have a pair of gorgeous Raleigh 3 speeds, very shiny

british racing green with gold pinstripes. Too nice

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till it screams mercy) Lackey. mens and womens.

Sturmey AW hubs, all shiny, all original. owners

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PERRRRFECT condition raleigh 3 speeds, 1974.

british racing green with gold pinstripes.

fenders match, raleigh special forks with british

fenders (white tipped and coming to a tip on the front

fender). Sturmey AW hubs, michelin tubes, original

tires (1 3/8). Pedals stamped with Raleigh logo,

fenders have raleigh decal. one mens one womans.

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I am hunting down sti-8 levers (ultegra/d.a.) and

an ultegra/da crankset (used).

The Pump swap meet is sunday, but I have little hope

that I will find such items there.

Anyone have any such goods in there bicycle storehouse

of parts they are willing to unload?



I have items to trade:

campy 102mm bottom brackets(9/10 speed)

campy chorus headsets (ahead/thread)

SSC tubular wheelsets on mavic hubs (freewheel)

ITM stem (quill type)

cartridge titanium bottom brackets (english)

size 9 and 9 1/2 road shoes (unused, new)

ultegra/dura ace 7 speed downtube shifters

Assos track pedals,cinelli alloy clips/binda straps

cinelli 1/r stem (10.50)

Cinelli 64-44 bars (new)

Cinelli 66-42 bars (used)

Campagnolo strada wheels,mavic hubs

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british green, sturmey archer AW, seat bags and

original owners manuals.

best offer takes em (matching male and female)



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park headtube facer and cutter, and park bottom

bracket

facer/chaser (ital and eng) park drop out alignment

tools, park duopro repair stand with base. best offer

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campy strada 32 hole dt spokes 14 ga ss, mavic hubs

120.00 with tires mounted and 7 speed cassette.



mavic 320gr silver rims on mavic hubs, dt spokes with

tires mounted and 7 speed cassette- 100.00



nisi lazer time trial tubulars, campy nuovo record

hubs, 32 hole, clement criterium tires, regina

cluster,

bladed spokes from Alpina. 150.00



All rims are perfect without dings or flat spots,

spoke tension is perfect, and the nisi wheels are

almost unridden. Strada wheels fresh built.



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specialized carbon tri spoke, cassette rear wheel,

tubular. 700c. cassette included. 200.00



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Here is a list of space consuming items in a box which

I have tripped over on my way to coffee for a month

now

(pump swap meet is next week)



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1) adidas classics road shoes,black,new 50.00 size 9

2) Nike gubashe duo road shoes,new 50.00 size 9 1/2

3) campy super record post 27.2, 80's vintage 40.00

4) modolo speedy brakes complete 80's vintage 40.00

5) campy belt buckle, new, 10.00

6) campy quick release for seat post,perfect, 10.00

7) dura ace wheelset,8 speed, campy rims,150.00

(12-23)

8) silca mini pump, new, 5.00

9) mavic 170 road cranks (144 pattern,campy copy)

50.00

10)xtr 8 speed rear wheel, new, 150.00 obo (mavic)

11)stx-rc rear wheel, mavic, new, 80.00

12)cinelli 64-44 bars, 26.4 clamp, 25.00 new in wrap.

13)campy 7 speed index downtube shifters 15.00 new

14)ultegra downtube shifters,7, 15.00

15)assos pedals with cinelli clips and binda straps

40.

16)kkt (campy copy pedals) 20.00







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full braze ons.   best offer takes it.

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Campagnolo Newsletter - number 12

October 2000



Summary:

1. ErgoBrain10

2. Record Ultra?Drive sprockets

3. Chain replacement - update

4. Errata corrige: 2001 range price list

5. Errata corrige: 2000 spare parts price list





1. ErgoBrain10

The ErgoBrain10 is currently being shipped: some

deliveries have been sent and the others will follow

with monthly cadence.

The "plus" features of the ErgoBrain10 (compared to

the ErgoBrain we've described in the Campagnolo

Newsletter n. 10) are:

- the rear-illumination (back-lit screen);

- the acoustic functions (for training).

In the Campagnolo 2001 catalogue and in the web site

(www.campagnolo.com) you'll find a complete

description of these functions and all the other

features of the ErgoBrain10.

The ErgoBrain10 is compatible with the 9s groups ('99

and 2000 range) but it is necessary to use the

ErgoBrain10 "main unit" (code CI00-EB10C2) with the 9s

"assembly kit" (code CI00-EB09B1).



2. Record Ultra?Drive sprockets

All the Campagnolo 2001 sprockets, evolution of the

Exa-Drive, have been named Ultra?Drive (UD). As

regards the Record group, these are the available

sprocket sets and the materials for the 2001 UD range:



10 speed:

Record UD (steel+titanium) sprockets: 11-21, 11-23,

12-25, 13-26, 13-29*

Record UD Titanium (all titanium) sprockets: 11-23**,

12-25, 13-26, 13-29*

* = Record 10s rear derailleur with medium cage

** = the 11 first position sprocket is made of steel



9 speed:

Record UD (steel+titanium) sprockets: 12-23, 13-23,

13-26



3. Chain replacement - update

In the first Newsletter we've described a method to

determine when you have to replace the chain (C9 and

C10). Make sure that the measurement to refer of is

132.60 mm and not 132.50 mm as previously indicated

(this is due to new test we've made last year).

So we would like to remind the method (described in

the chain instruction manual). You have to use a high

precision (0,01 mm resolution) caliper gauge to

measure, in different points of the chain, the length

between six links (as indicated in the figure on the

manual) and if even one of the measurement is longer

than 132.60 mm the chain must be replaced.



4. Errata corrige: 2001 range price list

Two errata corrige for the 2001 range price list:

- the code of the Ergopower cables and casings for

Daytona, Veloce and Mirage groups (EG-ER201) must be

substituted with the code EG-ER102 (Euro 8.223, Lire

15,921);

- for the Record 10s Titanium UD sprockets you have to

add a "T" at the end of the code: CSK00-RE1013T

instead of CSK00-RE1013, CSK00-RE1025T instead of

CSK00-RE1025, CSK00-RE1036T instead of CSK00-RE1036,

CSK00-RE1039T instead of CSK00-RE1039.



5. Errata corrige: 2000 spare parts price list

Record and Chorus quick-releases for the 2000 range

(omitted in the 2000 spare parts price list) have not

changed compared to the 1999 price list:

QF-RE121 Record front quick-release: Euro 29.918 (Lit.

57,930)

QR-RE121 Record rear quick-release: Euro 29.918 (Lit.

57,930)

QF-CH111 Chorus front quick-release: Euro 25.014 (Lit.

48,435)

QR-CH111 Chorus rear quick-release: Euro 25.014 (Lit.

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19" to top, 15" on center, 22" top tube, 4130 cromo

with cantilever mounts, rockshox 21r fork and headset

too. unused cruiser frame, mint. 50 bucks!



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and yes, I did forget to post the size, 9's.



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