Peter Murphy

snjr said:



" There are many many more children killed each year while

riding their bicycles than all other "ball sports" combined."



Are these kids killed on race courses? i don't think so...So to compare the

fatalities of all sports, it should be done in the right context. A kid

killed on his way to school on his bike, did not die in a sport related

accident, but a transportation accident. Just like a kid walking home from

football practice with his gear on who gets killed by a car is not a

football related incident.



"I guess I should clarify... bicycle racing has a high "out of pocket" cost

for parents versus other school sports."



Just because it doesn't come out of your pocket doesn't mean you didn't pay

for it. It is in the school budget. Maybe the school should start making the

parents buy the entire uniform and pay for facility rental for their child's

sports. I have a feeling there would be a huge influx of cross-country

running teams around the country. I don't know what a set of football pads

cost or how much it takes to keep up a stadium, much less light one, but i

have a feeling an entry level bike wouldn't be looking too bad. Suppose a

High School had a stable of bikes and uniforms that the kids could use for

the season, like football, then the kids would only have to buy shoes, if

they wanted. It is all about the priorities of sports spending in our

schools.



"Did I say they don't have skills? I don't recall saying that. However, I

will say, I do not think a pack of 100 riders in a criterium at speeds of 30

MPH plus is a good place for a seven year old."



You are right. You said hard to master. However, when is the last time you

saw 7 year old going 30 mph. i know many 4s that should not be in a Crit.

doing 30mph.



Pete Murphy



It's never really what you own but what you threw away

And how much did you pay? Bad Religion "Kyoto Now"











 From: "snjr" <sn-@charter.net>

To: <murphy_-@hotmail.com>, <ob-@topica.com>

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] TOP ATHLETES DON'T RIDE BIKES

Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 11:38:32 -0700



Pete wrote:

 More dangerous than padding 6 year olds up and letting them smack into

each

 other.

Actually yes. There are many many more children killed each year while

riding their bicycles than all other "ball sports" combined.



 As to cost, how much does it cost to outfit a kid in football pads,

build

a

 baseball field, light a football game on a friday night, rent pool time,

house and maintain skulling hulls.

I guess I should clarify... bicycle racing has a high "out of pocket" cost

for parents versus other school sports.



 As to hard to master, most seven year olds can ride no handed for miles,

jump curbs, and leap off ramps. Don't tell me they don't have skills.

Did I say they don't have skills? I don't recall saying that. However, I

will say, I do not think a pack of 100 riders in a criterium at speeds of

30

MPH plus is a good place for a seven year old.

snjr

Pete wrote:

 More dangerous than padding 6 year olds up and letting them smack into

each

 other.

Actually yes. There are many many more children killed each year while

riding their bicycles than all other "ball sports" combined.



 As to cost, how much does it cost to outfit a kid in football pads, build

a

 baseball field, light a football game on a friday night, rent pool time,

house and maintain skulling hulls.

I guess I should clarify... bicycle racing has a high "out of pocket" cost

for parents versus other school sports.



 As to hard to master, most seven year olds can ride no handed for miles,

jump curbs, and leap off ramps. Don't tell me they don't have skills.

Did I say they don't have skills? I don't recall saying that. However, I

will say, I do not think a pack of 100 riders in a criterium at speeds of 30

MPH plus is a good place for a seven year old.

Peter Murphy

More dangerous than padding 6 year olds up and letting them smack into each

other.



As to cost, how much does it cost to outfit a kid in football pads, build a

baseball field, light a football game on a friday night, rent pool time,

house and maintain skulling hulls. It is a matter of where you want to put

funding.



As to hard to master, most seven year olds can ride no handed for miles,

jump curbs, and leap off ramps. Don't tell me they don't have skills.



Pete Murphy



It's never really what you own but what you threw away

And how much did you pay? Bad Religion "Kyoto Now"











 From: snjr <sn-@charter.net>

Reply-To: sn-@charter.net

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] TOP ATHLETES DON'T RIDE BIKES

Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 09:58:32 -0700



LA is one of the world's greatest athletes, no doubt about it.



However, it is true, top U.S. athletes are not riding bikes. Bicycle

racing in the U.S. does not attract the most talented athletes. USA

Cycling demographics info will back up this fact.



The best athletes are naturally drawn toward the sports which they are

exposed to the most in school such as the ball sports, swimming, and track

& field.



The best thing about bicycle racing is the introduction of a machine (bike)

that tends to level the playing field. As a result, the best athlete

doesn't always win. The worst thing about bicycle racing is the

introduction of a machine (bike), as it is very expensive, hard to master,

and relatively dangerous for younger athletes compared to a running track

or lap pool.



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However, it is true, top U.S. athletes are not riding bikes. Bicycle racing in the U.S. does not attract the most talented athletes. USA Cycling demographics info will back up this fact.



The best athletes are naturally drawn toward the sports which they are exposed to the most in school such as the ball sports, swimming, and track & field.



The best thing about bicycle racing is the introduction of a machine (bike) that tends to level the playing field. As a result, the best athlete doesn't always win. The worst thing about bicycle racing is the introduction of a machine (bike), as it is very expensive, hard to master, and relatively dangerous for younger athletes compared to a running track or lap pool.

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