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Now that is a hilly route David. I assume you did it all on your fixie. An interesting side note about the Wisteria Rd. side of the Rosemont Ridge is that the famous Willamette meteorite was "discovered" (i.e. the first white man to find it) in 1902 near the intersection of Grapevine Rd. and Sweetbrier Rd., just down the hill a bit from Grapevine and Wisteria. (None of those roads were there at the time.) It's solid iron and nickel, is the size of a VW Bug, weighs 15 tons, was transported by glacial ice rafts from the area in Idaho where it is thought to have fallen from space, and is now in the Rose Center for Earth and Space at the American Museum of Natural History in New York. If it were still lying near Grapevine and Wisteria it would probably wreak havoc with your handlebar mounted compass as you made your way up that wee climb. (You do carry a compass on these route explorations of yours, don't you? : )
".David.Auker." <DaV-@Hevanet.com> wrote:Hi, I'm just in from my first ascent of Hidden Springs (I didn't see any).
Wow, that is one bad hill! Probably gets easier when you know it, eh?
:-)
My ride from Hillsdale: Lake Oswego, Hwy 43, Hidden Springs, Santa Anita,
Salamo, up Pete's Mountain Rd, down Turner, up Wisteria, down
Stafford/McVey, up 43 into Dunthorpe/Military Rd, past Lewis and Clark
College, home. Hidden Springs "warmed me up" for the rest of the ride.
Mileage: 37.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Magnus"
To: "John Schader"
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know
On the other hand as much as I like a fast decent with corners I do draw
the line on Hidden Springs which as you know is just south by Zupan's.
Way too much traffic to let the bike roll on that one.
Ron
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, John Schader wrote:
David,
Yes, that is an exhilarating downhill run. With a running start from
Skyland Drive in 53x12 I've "only" hit 54 mph coming down Bergis Rd. (the
fastest I've ever gone on a bicycle). It's a challenging little 1/4 mile
climb going the other way, and rather dangerous too, because it's so steep
that cars approaching from the top are blind to what's coming up the hill.
One must avoid traversing and just keep way right, riding a straight line no
matter what. However, the descent is straight and clear once you are on it
and the road that enters from the right at the bottom (SW Cornell Rd.) has a
stop sign. It is an ideal roller coaster run with an uphill "runaway truck
ramp" to slow you down before the road starts to curve. I think the ridge
it's on, running from L.O. on through West Linn is all part of the Rosemont
Ridge, which I suppose could still be part of the Tualatin Mountains. What
do you think the percent grade is on Bergis? Maybe 18 - 20% or more?
".David.Auker." wrote:
To clarify:
I said:
...so very little braking from the fast part out to where
it connects to Stafford.
That's Stafford Rd.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: ".David.Auker."
To:
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 10:30 PM
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know
A thread re-visited!
Here's a good one, short and f-a-s-t: Bergis Rd, zooming west from
Upper
Cherry Lane, above Hwy 43, and Marylhurst University...just south of
Lake
Oswego.
56mph, and the drop is only about 1/4 mile long, so it's a very quick
acceleration. Straight and good visibility, with an "arrester" roller
right
after the fast part, so very little braking from the fast part out to
where
it connects to Stafford.
To get there, Cherry Lane & Upper Cherry Lane from Hwy 43...it's a
very
"cherry" climb! Anyone know what this ridge is called, it's
geographical
name? On the map it's "Marylhurst Heights" and "Hidden Springs;" think
it's
part of the Tualitin Mountains?
David
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Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 3:24 PM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know
The fastest descent I know is Wildcat Mountain road on the way to
Estacata.
50mph plus easy!
Of course, you have to go up first.
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<DIV>Now that is a hilly route David. I assume you did it all on your fixie. An interesting side note about the Wisteria Rd. side of the Rosemont Ridge is that the famous Willamette meteorite was "discovered" (i.e. the first white man to find it) in 1902 near the intersection of Grapevine Rd. and Sweetbrier Rd., just down the hill a bit from Grapevine and Wisteria. (None of those roads were there at the time.) It's solid iron and nickel, is the size of a VW Bug, weighs 15 tons, was transported by glacial ice rafts from the area in Idaho where it is thought to have fallen from space, and is now in the Rose Center for Earth and Space at the American Museum of Natural History in New York. If it were still lying near Grapevine and Wisteria it would probably wreak havoc with your handlebar mounted compass as you made your way up that wee climb. (You do carry a compass on these route explorations of yours, don't you? : )<BR><BR><B><I>".David.Auker."
<DaV-@Hevanet.com></I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Hi, I'm just in from my first ascent of Hidden Springs (I didn't see any).<BR><BR>Wow, that is one bad hill! Probably gets easier when you know it, eh?<BR><BR>:-)<BR><BR>My ride from Hillsdale: Lake Oswego, Hwy 43, Hidden Springs, Santa Anita,<BR>Salamo, up Pete's Mountain Rd, down Turner, up Wisteria, down<BR>Stafford/McVey, up 43 into Dunthorpe/Military Rd, past Lewis and Clark<BR>College, home. Hidden Springs "warmed me up" for the rest of the ride.<BR>Mileage: 37.<BR><BR>David<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Ron Magnus" <RO-@HEVANET.COM><BR>To: "John Schader" <VOYA-@YAHOO.COM><BR>Cc: <DAV-@HEVANET.COM><BR>Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 6:59 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know<BR><BR><BR>><BR>> On the other hand as much as I like a fast decent with corners I do draw<BR>> the line on Hidden Springs which as you know is just south by
Zupan's.<BR>> Way too much traffic to let the bike roll on that one.<BR>><BR>> Ron<BR>><BR>><BR>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, John Schader wrote:<BR>><BR>> > David,<BR>> ><BR>> > Yes, that is an exhilarating downhill run. With a running start from<BR>Skyland Drive in 53x12 I've "only" hit 54 mph coming down Bergis Rd. (the<BR>fastest I've ever gone on a bicycle). It's a challenging little 1/4 mile<BR>climb going the other way, and rather dangerous too, because it's so steep<BR>that cars approaching from the top are blind to what's coming up the hill.<BR>One must avoid traversing and just keep way right, riding a straight line no<BR>matter what. However, the descent is straight and clear once you are on it<BR>and the road that enters from the right at the bottom (SW Cornell Rd.) has a<BR>stop sign. It is an ideal roller coaster run with an uphill "runaway truck<BR>ramp" to slow you down before the road starts to curve. I think the ridge<BR>it's on,
running from L.O. on through West Linn is all part of the Rosemont<BR>Ridge, which I suppose could still be part of the Tualatin Mountains. What<BR>do you think the percent grade is on Bergis? Maybe 18 - 20% or more?<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > ".David.Auker." <DAV-@HEVANET.COM>wrote:<BR>> > To clarify:<BR>> ><BR>> > I said:<BR>> > >...so very little braking from the fast part out to where<BR>> > > it connects to Stafford.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > That's Stafford Rd.<BR>> ><BR>> > David<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > From: ".David.Auker."<BR>> > To:<BR>> > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 10:30 PM<BR>> > Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > > A thread re-visited!<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Here's a good one, short and f-a-s-t: Bergis Rd, zooming west
from<BR>Upper<BR>> > > Cherry Lane, above Hwy 43, and Marylhurst University...just south of<BR>Lake<BR>> > > Oswego.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > 56mph, and the drop is only about 1/4 mile long, so it's a very quick<BR>> > > acceleration. Straight and good visibility, with an "arrester" roller<BR>> > right<BR>> > > after the fast part, so very little braking from the fast part out to<BR>> > where<BR>> > > it connects to Stafford.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > To get there, Cherry Lane & Upper Cherry Lane from Hwy 43...it's a<BR>very<BR>> > > "cherry" climb! Anyone know what this ridge is called, it's<BR>geographical<BR>> > > name? On the map it's "Marylhurst Heights" and "Hidden Springs;" think<BR>> > it's<BR>> > > part of the Tualitin Mountains?<BR>> > ><BR>> > > David<BR>> > ><BR>> > > ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > > From:
"Dan H"<BR>> ><BR>> > > To: "OBRA list"<BR>> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 3:24 PM<BR>> > > Subject: [OBRA Chat] The fastest descent I know<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > > The fastest descent I know is Wildcat Mountain road on the way to<BR>> > > Estacata.<BR>> > > > 50mph plus easy!<BR>> > > > Of course, you have to go up first.<BR>> > > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.<BR>> > > To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org<BR>> > > To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> ><BR>> > To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.<BR>> > To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org<BR>> > To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com<BR>> ><BR>>
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