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John Lombard

2004-08-18

I think it depends on how generous the official is. I

know that when I was officiating PIR and Tabor I would

overlook anyone who didn't have a visible number. I

only wrote down riders who had visible numbers.

-John

-- Dan H <br-@politesociety.com> wrote:

It's my understanding that if a rider has no

readable number, that rider

gets no results. Has something changed?

----- Original Message -----

From: jaso-@toptier.com

To: 'John Schader' ; 'OBRA'

Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 10:52 AM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] PIR 8/17 results

John,

You are correct that people who didn't sign in or

aren't wearing their

number get left out of the results and don't get

their points.

Unfortunately, last night we had some people

register late and didn't get

their names on the copy of the registration forms

that the officials had. I

am basically giving those people the chance to let

me know that they did in

fact pay and if they didn't, they won't get their

points. Hopefully this

will set everyone's minds at ease.

As a reminder to everyone. If you don't sign in,

don't wear your number or

put it on the wrong side, or don't sign in legibly,

you make the job doing

results even more difficult for the officials.

Please try to help us, and

we can get the results done quicker and with fewer

errors. Thanks!!

Jason

-----Original Message-----

From: John Schader [mailto:voya-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 9:15 AM

To: jaso-@toptier.com; OBRA

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] PIR 8/17 results

What's the deal in the 3/4 race with 5 of the top 17

not signed in??? Did

they just show up late and sign in after the race?

(I didn't know that is

acceptable.) Or, does it mean 689, 76, 328, 161 and

"No Number University of

Oregon" did not pay to race on Tuesday? Are there

riders in the field who

take unfair advantage of those who paid for the

privilege? The races

wouldn't exist if no one paid for them, and I have

not heard that there are

people who are exempt from paying the entry fee.

jaso-@toptier.com wrote:

1/2/3 Field, 67 riders

1 148 Steve Holland Huntair 12 4 16

2 Z01 Adam Curry Team Revolution 15 0 15

3 154 Evan Elkin Jittery Joe's 3 9 12

4 A11 John Mitchem Guiness 10 1 11

5 358 George Garner Team O 8 0 8

6 194 Bill Fasano Broadmark 7 0 7

7 112 David Oliphant Fred Meyer 6 0 6

8 538 Jesse Sampson Felt/Veloce 4 2 6

9 143 Steven Mullen NoMads 5 0 5

10 A44 Not Signed In 0 3 3

11 357 Kendall Kunhar Bike N Hike 0 3 3

12 305 Dan Tori GS Camerati 0 2 2

13 551 Steve Getsiv Bike N Hike

14 954 Drew Russell

15 K59 Al VanNoy Adidas

16 ?? No Number Yellow & Black

17 H21 Bret Prerne

18 366 Brian Austin Bike N Hike

19 84 Aaron Sander Half Fast Velo

3/4 Field, 51 riders

1 C88 Andrew Canfield Airfroce Reserve 15 0

15

2 846 Cliff Thompson BBC 10 5 15

3 845 Jerome Dumortier BBC 8 6 14

4 855 Chris Deardorf B.I.K.E./Hincapie 12 1

13

5 689 Not Signed In 7 0 7

6 640 Robbie Bouslaugh NRR 6 0 6

7 375 Tom Morgan Bike N Hike 5 0 5

8 309 Chris Browning Bike N Hike 4 0 4

9 665 Cary Mallon Disco Velo 3 0 3

10 76 Not Signed In 2 0 2

11 N18 Aaron Love 0 2 2

12 328 Not Signed In 0 1 1

13 810 Steve Rosvold NRR 0 1 1

14 728 Jerry Insco B.I.K.E./Hincapie

15 ?? No Number University of Oregon

16 667 Ian Megale

17 161 Not Signed In

18 713 Joseph Bogunen Team O

19 K87 Brian Schiller Guiness

20 404 Chuck Sowers Huntair

21 ?? Yellow Jersey

22 81 David Ciarerette Guiness

23 966 Eric Hansen TriLevel Fitness

24 568 Richard Barrows NRR

25 H20 Casey Patton

26 K99 Joe Rocha

27 H02 Jeff Thompson NRR

28 502 Michael Cooper B.I.K.E./Hincapie

4/5 Field, 25 riders

1 C03 Richard Sudith BBC 15 0 15

2 683 Charles Christensen BBC 10 3 13

3 665 Cary Mallon Disco Velo 12 0 12

4 K39 Dominic Susi NRR 7 2 9

5 K75 Roland Hobson 8 0 8

6 C39 Greg Edwards 6 0 6

7 X86 Issac Blanton 343 Racing 5 0 5

8 Y27 Alex Zeisbey BBC 4 0 4

9 Y63 Jay Nebel 3 0 3

10 Y32 Jess Garsen 2 0 2

11 Y26 Brad Farra RC Bike 0 1 1

12 801 Paul Kanz

13 J84 Matt Young

14 Y36 Michael VanZanten USAF Reserve

15 78 Steve Ross

16 J88 Michael Lakomecki B.I.K.E./Hincapie

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2004-08-18

It's my understanding that if a rider has no readable number, that rider

gets no results. Has something changed?

----- Original Message -----

From: jaso-@toptier.com

To: 'John Schader' ; 'OBRA'

Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 10:52 AM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] PIR 8/17 results

John,

You are correct that people who didn't sign in or aren't wearing their

number get left out of the results and don't get their points.

Unfortunately, last night we had some people register late and didn't get

their names on the copy of the registration forms that the officials had. I

am basically giving those people the chance to let me know that they did in

fact pay and if they didn't, they won't get their points. Hopefully this

will set everyone's minds at ease.

As a reminder to everyone. If you don't sign in, don't wear your number or

put it on the wrong side, or don't sign in legibly, you make the job doing

results even more difficult for the officials. Please try to help us, and

we can get the results done quicker and with fewer errors. Thanks!!

Jason

-----Original Message-----

From: John Schader [mailto:voya-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 9:15 AM

To: jaso-@toptier.com; OBRA

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] PIR 8/17 results

What's the deal in the 3/4 race with 5 of the top 17 not signed in??? Did

they just show up late and sign in after the race? (I didn't know that is

acceptable.) Or, does it mean 689, 76, 328, 161 and "No Number University of

Oregon" did not pay to race on Tuesday? Are there riders in the field who

take unfair advantage of those who paid for the privilege? The races

wouldn't exist if no one paid for them, and I have not heard that there are

people who are exempt from paying the entry fee.

jaso-@toptier.com wrote:

1/2/3 Field, 67 riders

1 148 Steve Holland Huntair 12 4 16

2 Z01 Adam Curry Team Revolution 15 0 15

3 154 Evan Elkin Jittery Joe's 3 9 12

4 A11 John Mitchem Guiness 10 1 11

5 358 George Garner Team O 8 0 8

6 194 Bill Fasano Broadmark 7 0 7

7 112 David Oliphant Fred Meyer 6 0 6

8 538 Jesse Sampson Felt/Veloce 4 2 6

9 143 Steven Mullen NoMads 5 0 5

10 A44 Not Signed In 0 3 3

11 357 Kendall Kunhar Bike N Hike 0 3 3

12 305 Dan Tori GS Camerati 0 2 2

13 551 Steve Getsiv Bike N Hike

14 954 Drew Russell

15 K59 Al VanNoy Adidas

16 ?? No Number Yellow & Black

17 H21 Bret Prerne

18 366 Brian Austin Bike N Hike

19 84 Aaron Sander Half Fast Velo

3/4 Field, 51 riders

1 C88 Andrew Canfield Airfroce Reserve 15 0

15

2 846 Cliff Thompson BBC 10 5 15

3 845 Jerome Dumortier BBC 8 6 14

4 855 Chris Deardorf B.I.K.E./Hincapie 12 1

13

5 689 Not Signed In 7 0 7

6 640 Robbie Bouslaugh NRR 6 0 6

7 375 Tom Morgan Bike N Hike 5 0 5

8 309 Chris Browning Bike N Hike 4 0 4

9 665 Cary Mallon Disco Velo 3 0 3

10 76 Not Signed In 2 0 2

11 N18 Aaron Love 0 2 2

12 328 Not Signed In 0 1 1

13 810 Steve Rosvold NRR 0 1 1

14 728 Jerry Insco B.I.K.E./Hincapie

15 ?? No Number University of Oregon

16 667 Ian Megale

17 161 Not Signed In

18 713 Joseph Bogunen Team O

19 K87 Brian Schiller Guiness

20 404 Chuck Sowers Huntair

21 ?? Yellow Jersey

22 81 David Ciarerette Guiness

23 966 Eric Hansen TriLevel Fitness

24 568 Richard Barrows NRR

25 H20 Casey Patton

26 K99 Joe Rocha

27 H02 Jeff Thompson NRR

28 502 Michael Cooper B.I.K.E./Hincapie

4/5 Field, 25 riders

1 C03 Richard Sudith BBC 15 0 15

2 683 Charles Christensen BBC 10 3 13

3 665 Cary Mallon Disco Velo 12 0 12

4 K39 Dominic Susi NRR 7 2 9

5 K75 Roland Hobson 8 0 8

6 C39 Greg Edwards 6 0 6

7 X86 Issac Blanton 343 Racing 5 0 5

8 Y27 Alex Zeisbey BBC 4 0 4

9 Y63 Jay Nebel 3 0 3

10 Y32 Jess Garsen 2 0 2

11 Y26 Brad Farra RC Bike 0 1 1

12 801 Paul Kanz

13 J84 Matt Young

14 Y36 Michael VanZanten USAF Reserve

15 78 Steve Ross

16 J88 Michael Lakomecki B.I.K.E./Hincapie

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No!! You are required to register and pay for every race. If we know

you blatantly tried to race for free, we will pull you and recommend

disciplinary action to OBRA. The main problem we have been having is

people who signed a release and bought a season pass at the beginning of

the season, and then they think they can just hop in the race without

signing in. You must sign in every time!!!

Thanks for the question.

Jason

-----Original Message-----

From: Erik Voldengen [mailto:eri-@fusium.com]

Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 11:03 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] PIR 8/17 results

Wait a sec, you are indirectly saying as long as you want to race for

free, just show up on the line and go for it.

Please clarify, as this has many repercussions.

-Erik

_____

From: jaso-@toptier.com [mailto:jaso-@toptier.com]

Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 10:52 AM

To: 'John Schader'; 'OBRA'

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] PIR 8/17 results

John,

You are correct that people who didn't sign in or aren't wearing their

number get left out of the results and don't get their points.

Unfortunately, last night we had some people register late and didn't

get their names on the copy of the registration forms that the officials

had. I am basically giving those people the chance to let me know that

they did in fact pay and if they didn't, they won't get their points.

Hopefully this will set everyone's minds at ease.

As a reminder to everyone. If you don't sign in, don't wear your number

or put it on the wrong side, or don't sign in legibly, you make the job

doing results even more difficult for the officials. Please try to help

us, and we can get the results done quicker and with fewer errors.

Thanks!!

Jason

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No!!

You are required to register and pay for every race. If we know you blatantly tried to race

for free, we will pull you and recommend disciplinary action to <st1:PersonName>OBRA</st1:PersonName>. The main problem we have been having is

people who signed a release and bought a season pass at the beginning of the

season, and then they think they can just hop in the race without signing

in. You must sign in every time!!!<o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

Thanks for the question.<o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

Jason<o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

-----Original Message----- 

From: Erik Voldengen

[mailto:eri-@fusium.com] 

Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004

11:03 AM 

To: ob-@topica.com 

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] PIR 8/17

results

<o:p> </o:p>

Wait a sec, you are

indirectly saying as long as you want to race for free, just show up on the

line and go for it. <o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

Please clarify, as this

has many repercussions.<o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

-Erik<o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

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From:

jaso-@toptier.com [mailto:jaso-@toptier.com] 

Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004

10:52 AM 

To: 'John Schader'; 'OBRA' 

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] PIR 8/17

results<o:p></o:p>

</div>

<o:p> </o:p>

John,<o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

You are correct that people

who didn’t sign in or aren’t wearing their number get left out of

the results and don’t get their points. Unfortunately, last night

we had some people register late and didn’t get their names on the copy

of the registration forms that the officials had. I am basically giving

those people the chance to let me know that they did in fact pay and if they

didn’t, they won’t get their points. Hopefully this will set

everyone’s minds at ease.<o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

As a reminder to

everyone… If you don’t sign in, don’t wear your number

or put it on the wrong side, or don’t sign in legibly, you make the job

doing results even more difficult for the officials. Please try to help

us, and we can get the results done quicker and with fewer errors.

Thanks!!<o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

Jason<o:p></o:p>

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Erik Voldengen

2004-08-18

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Wait a sec, you are indirectly saying as long as you want to race for free,

just show up on the line and go for it.

Please clarify, as this has many repercussions.

-Erik

_____

From: jaso-@toptier.com [mailto:jaso-@toptier.com]

Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 10:52 AM

To: 'John Schader'; 'OBRA'

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] PIR 8/17 results

John,

You are correct that people who didn't sign in or aren't wearing their

number get left out of the results and don't get their points.

Unfortunately, last night we had some people register late and didn't get

their names on the copy of the registration forms that the officials had. I

am basically giving those people the chance to let me know that they did in

fact pay and if they didn't, they won't get their points. Hopefully this

will set everyone's minds at ease.

As a reminder to everyone. If you don't sign in, don't wear your number or

put it on the wrong side, or don't sign in legibly, you make the job doing

results even more difficult for the officials. Please try to help us, and

we can get the results done quicker and with fewer errors. Thanks!!

Jason

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Wait a sec, you are indirectly saying as

long as you want to race for free, just show up on the line and go for it. <o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

Please clarify, as this has many

repercussions.<o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

-Erik<o:p></o:p>

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From: jaso-@toptier.com

[mailto:jaso-@toptier.com] 

Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004

10:52 AM 

To: 'John Schader'; 'OBRA' 

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] PIR 8/17

results<o:p></o:p>

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<o:p> </o:p>

John,<o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

You are correct that people who

didn’t sign in or aren’t wearing their number get left out of the

results and don’t get their points. Unfortunately, last night we

had some people register late and didn’t get their names on the copy of

the registration forms that the officials had. I am basically giving

those people the chance to let me know that they did in fact pay and if they

didn’t, they won’t get their points. Hopefully this will set

everyone’s minds at ease.<o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

As a reminder to everyone… If

you don’t sign in, don’t wear your number or put it on the wrong

side, or don’t sign in legibly, you make the job doing results even more

difficult for the officials. Please try to help us, and we can get the

results done quicker and with fewer errors. Thanks!!<o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

Jason<o:p></o:p>

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jaso-@toptier.com

2004-08-18

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John,

You are correct that people who didn't sign in or aren't wearing their

number get left out of the results and don't get their points.

Unfortunately, last night we had some people register late and didn't

get their names on the copy of the registration forms that the officials

had. I am basically giving those people the chance to let me know that

they did in fact pay and if they didn't, they won't get their points.

Hopefully this will set everyone's minds at ease.

As a reminder to everyone. If you don't sign in, don't wear your number

or put it on the wrong side, or don't sign in legibly, you make the job

doing results even more difficult for the officials. Please try to help

us, and we can get the results done quicker and with fewer errors.

Thanks!!

Jason

-----Original Message-----

From: John Schader [mailto:voya-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 9:15 AM

To: jaso-@toptier.com; OBRA

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] PIR 8/17 results

What's the deal in the 3/4 race with 5 of the top 17 not signed in???

Did they just show up late and sign in after the race? (I didn't know

that is acceptable.) Or, does it mean 689, 76, 328, 161 and "No Number

University of Oregon" did not pay to race on Tuesday? Are there riders

in the field who take unfair advantage of those who paid for the

privilege? The races wouldn't exist if no one paid for them, and I have

not heard that there are people who are exempt from paying the entry

fee.

jaso-@toptier.com wrote:

1/2/3 Field, 67 riders

1 148 Steve Holland Huntair 12 4 16

2 Z01 Adam Curry Team Revolution 15 0 15

3 154 Evan Elkin Jittery Joe's 3 9 12

4 A11 John Mitchem Guiness 10 1 11

5 358 George Garner Team O 8 0 8

6 194 Bill Fasano Broadmark 7 0 7

7 112 David Oliphant Fred Meyer 6 0 6

8 538 Jesse Sampson Felt/Veloce 4 2 6

9 143 Steven Mullen NoMads 5 0 5

10 A44 Not Signed In 0 3 3

11 357 Kendall Kunhar Bike N Hike 0 3 3

12 305 Dan Tori GS Camerati 0 2 2

13 551 Steve Getsiv Bike N Hike

14 954 Drew Russell

15 K59 Al VanNoy Adidas

16 ?? No Number Yellow & Black

17 H21 Bret Prerne

18 366 Brian Austin Bike N Hike

19 84 Aaron Sander Half Fast Velo

3/4 Field, 51 riders

1 C88 Andrew Canfield Airfroce Reserve 15 0

15

2 846 Cliff Thompson BBC 10 5 15

3 845 Jerome Dumortier BBC 8 6 14

4 855 Chris Deardorf B.I.K.E./Hincapie 12 1

13

5 689 Not Signed In 7 0 7

6 640 Robbie Bouslaugh NRR 6 0 6

7 375 Tom Morgan Bike N Hike 5 0 5

8 309 Chris Browning Bike N Hike 4 0 4

9 665 Cary Mallon Disco Velo 3 0 3

10 76 Not Signed In 2 0 2

11 N18 Aaron Love 0 2 2

12 328 Not Signed In 0 1 1

13 810 Steve Rosvold NRR 0 1 1

14 728 Jerry Insco B.I.K.E./Hincapie

15 ?? No Number University of Oregon

16 667 Ian Megale

17 161 Not Signed In

18 713 Joseph Bogunen Team O

19 K87 Brian Schiller Guiness

20 404 Chuck Sowers Huntair

21 ?? Yellow Jersey

22 81 David Ciarerette Guiness

23 966 Eric Hansen TriLevel Fitness

24 568 Richard Barrows NRR

25 H20 Casey Patton

26 K99 Joe Rocha

27 H02 Jeff Thompson NRR

28 502 Michael Cooper B.I.K.E./Hincapie

4/5 Field, 25 riders

1 C03 Richard Sudith BBC 15 0 15

2 683 Charles Christensen BBC 10 3 13

3 665 Cary Mallon Disco Velo 12 0 12

4 K39 Dominic Susi NRR 7 2 9

5 K75 Roland Hobson 8 0 8

6 C39 Greg Edwards 6 0 6

7 X86 Issac Blanton 343 Racing 5 0 5

8 Y27 Alex Zeisbey BBC 4 0 4

9 Y63 Jay Nebel 3 0 3

10 Y32 Jess Garsen 2 0 2

11 Y26 Brad Farra RC Bike 0 1 1

12 801 Paul Kanz

13 J84 Matt Young

14 Y36 Michael VanZanten USAF Reserve

15 78 Steve Ross

16 J88 Michael Lakomecki B.I.K.E./Hincapie

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John,<o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

You are correct that people who didn’t

sign in or aren’t wearing their number get left out of the results and

don’t get their points.

Unfortunately, last night we had some people register late and didn’t

get their names on the copy of the registration forms that the officials

had. I am basically giving those

people the chance to let me know that they did in fact pay and if they didn’t,

they won’t get their points. Hopefully this will set everyone’s

minds at ease.<o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

As a reminder to everyone… If you don’t

sign in, don’t wear your number or put it on the wrong side, or don’t

sign in legibly, you make the job doing results even more difficult for the

officials. Please try to help us,

and we can get the results done quicker and with fewer errors. Thanks!!<o:p></o:p>

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What's the deal in the 3/4 race with 5 of the top 17

not signed in??? Did they just show up late and sign in after

the race? (I didn't know that is acceptable.) Or, does it mean 689, 76, 328,

161 and "No Number University of Oregon" did not pay to race on Tuesday?

Are there riders in the field who take unfair advantage of those who paid

for the privilege? The races wouldn't exist if no one paid for them, and I

have not heard that there are people who are exempt from paying the entry

fee. 

 

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1/2/3 Field, 67 riders 

1 148 Steve Holland Huntair 12 4 16 

2 Z01 Adam Curry Team Revolution 15 0 15 

3 154 Evan Elkin Jittery Joe's 3 9 12 

4 A11 John Mitchem Guiness 10 1 11 

5 358 George Garner Team O 8 0 8 

6 194 Bill Fasano Broadmark 7 0 7 

7 112 David Oliphant Fred Meyer 6 0 6 

8 538 Jesse Sampson Felt/Veloce 4 2 6 

9 143 Steven Mullen NoMads 5 0 5 

10 A44 Not Signed In 0 3 3 

11 357 Kendall Kunhar Bike N Hike 0 3 3 

12 305 Dan Tori GS Camerati 0 2 2 

13 551 Steve Getsiv Bike N Hike 

14 954 Drew Russell 

15 K59 Al VanNoy Adidas 

16 ?? No Number Yellow & Black 

17 H21 Bret Prerne 

18 366 Brian Austin Bike N Hike 

19 84 Aaron Sander Half Fast Velo 

 

3/4 Field, 51 riders 

1 C88 Andrew Canfield Airfroce Reserve 15 0 

15 

2 846 Cliff Thompson BBC 10 5 15 

3 845 Jerome Dumortier BBC 8 6 14 

4 855 Chris Deardorf B.I.K.E./Hincapie 12 1 

13 

5 689 Not Signed In 7 0 7 

6 640 Robbie Bouslaugh NRR 6 0 6 

7 375 Tom Morgan Bike N Hike 5 0 5 

8 309 Chris Browning Bike N Hike 4 0 4 

9 665 Cary Mallon Disco Velo 3 0 3 

10 76 Not Signed In 2 0 2 

11 N18 Aaron Love 0 2 2 

12 328 Not Signed In 0 1 1 

13 810 Steve Rosvold NRR 0 1 1 

14 728 Jerry Insco B.I.K.E./Hincapie 

15 ?? No Number University of Oregon 

16 667 Ian Megale 

17 161 Not Signed In 

18 713 Joseph Bogunen Team O 

19 K87 Brian Schiller Guiness 

20 404 Chuck Sowers Huntair 

21 ?? Yellow Jersey 

22 81 David Ciarerette Guiness 

23 966 Eric Hansen TriLevel Fitness 

24 568 Richard Barrows NRR 

25 H20 Casey Patton 

26 K99 Joe Rocha 

27 H02 Jeff Thompson NRR 

28 502 Michael Cooper B.I.K.E./Hincapie 

 

4/5 Field, 25 riders 

1 C03 Richard Sudith BBC 15 0 15 

2 683 Charles Christensen BBC 10 3 13 

3 665 Cary Mallon Disco Velo 12 0 12 

4 K39 Dominic Susi NRR 7 2 9 

5 K75 Roland Hobson 8 0 8 

6 C39 Greg Edwards 6 0 6 

7 X86 Issac Blanton 343 Racing 5 0 5 

8 Y27 Alex Zeisbey BBC 4 0 4 

9 Y63 Jay Nebel 3 0 3 

10 Y32 Jess Garsen 2 0 2 

11 Y26 Brad Farra RC Bike 0 1 1 

12 801 Paul Kanz 

13 J84 Matt Young 

14 Y36 Michael VanZanten USAF Reserve 

15 78 Steve Ross 

16 J88 Michael Lakomecki B.I.K.E./Hincapie 

 

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2004-08-18

I've often wondered the same thing... if they are NOT paying, and/or

signing in, it seems like they may have earned a membership to the

blacklist club. A revealing of the names behind the numbers is in

order!!! Gather the mob!!! Let's get them!!! Seriously, let's not abuse

the system. This is ridiculous. Ok, maybe it's a simple clerical error,

then maybe excuseable.

Chris Brandt

John Schader wrote:

What's the deal in the 3/4 race with 5 of the top 17 not signed in???

Did they just show up late and sign in after the race? (I didn't know

that is acceptable.) Or, does it mean 689, 76, 328, 161 and "No Number

University of Oregon" did not pay to race on Tuesday? Are there riders

in the field who take unfair advantage of those who paid for the

privilege? The races wouldn't exist if no one paid for them, and I have

not heard that there are people who are exempt from paying the entry

fee.

John Schader

2004-08-18

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What's the deal in the 3/4 race with 5 of the top 17 not signed in??? Did they just show up late and sign in after the race? (I didn't know that is acceptable.) Or, does it mean 689, 76, 328, 161 and "No Number University of Oregon" did not pay to race on Tuesday? Are there riders in the field who take unfair advantage of those who paid for the privilege? The races wouldn't exist if no one paid for them, and I have not heard that there are people who are exempt from paying the entry fee.

jaso-@toptier.com wrote:1/2/3 Field, 67 riders

1 148 Steve Holland Huntair 12 4 16

2 Z01 Adam Curry Team Revolution 15 0 15

3 154 Evan Elkin Jittery Joe's 3 9 12

4 A11 John Mitchem Guiness 10 1 11

5 358 George Garner Team O 8 0 8

6 194 Bill Fasano Broadmark 7 0 7

7 112 David Oliphant Fred Meyer 6 0 6

8 538 Jesse Sampson Felt/Veloce 4 2 6

9 143 Steven Mullen NoMads 5 0 5

10 A44 Not Signed In 0 3 3

11 357 Kendall Kunhar Bike N Hike 0 3 3

12 305 Dan Tori GS Camerati 0 2 2

13 551 Steve Getsiv Bike N Hike

14 954 Drew Russell

15 K59 Al VanNoy Adidas

16 ?? No Number Yellow & Black

17 H21 Bret Prerne

18 366 Brian Austin Bike N Hike

19 84 Aaron Sander Half Fast Velo

3/4 Field, 51 riders

1 C88 Andrew Canfield Airfroce Reserve 15 0

15

2 846 Cliff Thompson BBC 10 5 15

3 845 Jerome Dumortier BBC 8 6 14

4 855 Chris Deardorf B.I.K.E./Hincapie 12 1

13

5 689 Not Signed In 7 0 7

6 640 Robbie Bouslaugh NRR 6 0 6

7 375 Tom Morgan Bike N Hike 5 0 5

8 309 Chris Browning Bike N Hike 4 0 4

9 665 Cary Mallon Disco Velo 3 0 3

10 76 Not Signed In 2 0 2

11 N18 Aaron Love 0 2 2

12 328 Not Signed In 0 1 1

13 810 Steve Rosvold NRR 0 1 1

14 728 Jerry Insco B.I.K.E./Hincapie

15 ?? No Number University of Oregon

16 667 Ian Megale

17 161 Not Signed In

18 713 Joseph Bogunen Team O

19 K87 Brian Schiller Guiness

20 404 Chuck Sowers Huntair

21 ?? Yellow Jersey

22 81 David Ciarerette Guiness

23 966 Eric Hansen TriLevel Fitness

24 568 Richard Barrows NRR

25 H20 Casey Patton

26 K99 Joe Rocha

27 H02 Jeff Thompson NRR

28 502 Michael Cooper B.I.K.E./Hincapie

4/5 Field, 25 riders

1 C03 Richard Sudith BBC 15 0 15

2 683 Charles Christensen BBC 10 3 13

3 665 Cary Mallon Disco Velo 12 0 12

4 K39 Dominic Susi NRR 7 2 9

5 K75 Roland Hobson 8 0 8

6 C39 Greg Edwards 6 0 6

7 X86 Issac Blanton 343 Racing 5 0 5

8 Y27 Alex Zeisbey BBC 4 0 4

9 Y63 Jay Nebel 3 0 3

10 Y32 Jess Garsen 2 0 2

11 Y26 Brad Farra RC Bike 0 1 1

12 801 Paul Kanz

13 J84 Matt Young

14 Y36 Michael VanZanten USAF Reserve

15 78 Steve Ross

16 J88 Michael Lakomecki B.I.K.E./Hincapie

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<DIV>What's the deal in the 3/4 race with 5 of the top 17 not signed in??? Did they just show up late and sign in after the race? (I didn't know that is acceptable.) Or, does it mean 689, 76, 328, 161 and "No Number University of Oregon" did not pay to race on Tuesday? Are there riders in the field who take unfair advantage of those who paid for the privilege? The races wouldn't exist if no one paid for them, and I have not heard that there are people who are exempt from paying the entry fee. jaso-@toptier.com wrote:

<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">1/2/3 Field, 67 riders 1 148 Steve Holland Huntair 12 4 16 2 Z01 Adam Curry Team Revolution 15 0 15 3 154 Evan Elkin Jittery Joe's 3 9 12 4 A11 John Mitchem Guiness 10 1 11 5 358 George Garner Team O 8 0 8 6 194 Bill Fasano Broadmark 7 0 7 7 112 David Oliphant Fred Meyer 6 0 6 8 538 Jesse Sampson Felt/Veloce 4 2 6 9 143 Steven Mullen NoMads 5 0 5 10 A44 Not Signed In 0 3 3 11 357 Kendall Kunhar Bike N Hike 0 3 3 12 305 Dan Tori GS Camerati 0 2 2 13 551 Steve Getsiv Bike N Hike 14 954 Drew Russell 15 K59 Al VanNoy Adidas 16 ?? No Number Yellow & Black 17 H21 Bret Prerne 18 366 Brian Austin Bike N Hike 19 84 Aaron Sander Half Fast Velo 3/4 Field, 51 riders 1 C88 Andrew Canfield Airfroce Reserve 15 0 15 2 846 Cliff Thompson BBC 10 5 15 3 845 Jerome Dumortier BBC 8 6 14 4 855 Chris Deardorf

B.I.K.E./Hincapie 12 1 13 5 689 Not Signed In 7 0 7 6 640 Robbie Bouslaugh NRR 6 0 6 7 375 Tom Morgan Bike N Hike 5 0 5 8 309 Chris Browning Bike N Hike 4 0 4 9 665 Cary Mallon Disco Velo 3 0 3 10 76 Not Signed In 2 0 2 11 N18 Aaron Love 0 2 2 12 328 Not Signed In 0 1 1 13 810 Steve Rosvold NRR 0 1 1 14 728 Jerry Insco B.I.K.E./Hincapie 15 ?? No Number University of Oregon 16 667 Ian Megale 17 161 Not Signed In 18 713 Joseph Bogunen Team O 19 K87 Brian Schiller Guiness 20 404 Chuck Sowers Huntair 21 ?? Yellow Jersey 22 81 David Ciarerette Guiness 23 966 Eric Hansen TriLevel Fitness 24 568 Richard Barrows NRR 25 H20 Casey Patton 26 K99 Joe Rocha 27 H02 Jeff Thompson NRR 28 502 Michael Cooper B.I.K.E./Hincapie 4/5 Field, 25 riders 1 C03 Richard Sudith BBC 15 0 15 2 683 Charles Christensen BBC 10 3 13 3 665 Cary Mallon Disco Velo 12 0 12 4 K39 Dominic Susi NRR 7 2 9 5 K75

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2004-08-18

1/2/3 Field, 67 riders

1 148 Steve Holland Huntair 12 4 16

2 Z01 Adam Curry Team Revolution 15 0 15

3 154 Evan Elkin Jittery Joe's 3 9 12

4 A11 John Mitchem Guiness 10 1 11

5 358 George Garner Team O 8 0 8

6 194 Bill Fasano Broadmark 7 0 7

7 112 David Oliphant Fred Meyer 6 0 6

8 538 Jesse Sampson Felt/Veloce 4 2 6

9 143 Steven Mullen NoMads 5 0 5

10 A44 Not Signed In 0 3 3

11 357 Kendall Kunhar Bike N Hike 0 3 3

12 305 Dan Tori GS Camerati 0 2 2

13 551 Steve Getsiv Bike N Hike

14 954 Drew Russell

15 K59 Al VanNoy Adidas

16 ?? No Number Yellow & Black

17 H21 Bret Prerne

18 366 Brian Austin Bike N Hike

19 84 Aaron Sander Half Fast Velo

3/4 Field, 51 riders

1 C88 Andrew Canfield Airfroce Reserve 15 0

15

2 846 Cliff Thompson BBC 10 5 15

3 845 Jerome Dumortier BBC 8 6 14

4 855 Chris Deardorf B.I.K.E./Hincapie 12 1

13

5 689 Not Signed In 7 0 7

6 640 Robbie Bouslaugh NRR 6 0 6

7 375 Tom Morgan Bike N Hike 5 0 5

8 309 Chris Browning Bike N Hike 4 0 4

9 665 Cary Mallon Disco Velo 3 0 3

10 76 Not Signed In 2 0 2

11 N18 Aaron Love 0 2 2

12 328 Not Signed In 0 1 1

13 810 Steve Rosvold NRR 0 1 1

14 728 Jerry Insco B.I.K.E./Hincapie

15 ?? No Number University of Oregon

16 667 Ian Megale

17 161 Not Signed In

18 713 Joseph Bogunen Team O

19 K87 Brian Schiller Guiness

20 404 Chuck Sowers Huntair

21 ?? Yellow Jersey

22 81 David Ciarerette Guiness

23 966 Eric Hansen TriLevel Fitness

24 568 Richard Barrows NRR

25 H20 Casey Patton

26 K99 Joe Rocha

27 H02 Jeff Thompson NRR

28 502 Michael Cooper B.I.K.E./Hincapie

4/5 Field, 25 riders

1 C03 Richard Sudith BBC 15 0 15

2 683 Charles Christensen BBC 10 3 13

3 665 Cary Mallon Disco Velo 12 0 12

4 K39 Dominic Susi NRR 7 2 9

5 K75 Roland Hobson 8 0 8

6 C39 Greg Edwards 6 0 6

7 X86 Issac Blanton 343 Racing 5 0 5

8 Y27 Alex Zeisbey BBC 4 0 4

9 Y63 Jay Nebel 3 0 3

10 Y32 Jess Garsen 2 0 2

11 Y26 Brad Farra RC Bike 0 1 1

12 801 Paul Kanz

13 J84 Matt Young

14 Y36 Michael VanZanten USAF Reserve

15 78 Steve Ross

16 J88 Michael Lakomecki B.I.K.E./Hincapie

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