Traffic Near-miss

Dan H

2004-08-19



If you don't like the way I drive, stay off the sidewalk! ;-)



----- Original Message -----

From: David Hart

To: bike chat

Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 6:39 PM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Traffic Near-miss





If it is a near-miss then that means you hit them but almost missed.



Nearly hit seems more appropriate.



Don't mean to downplay the situation as I nearly hit a nice BMW at Sandy

today. Got to watch out for the sidewalk, they are invisible to drivers.



David Hart

North River Racing

Southwest Washington's Cycling team!



----- Original Message -----

From: .David.Auker.

To: dave_g-@hotmail.com ; ob-@topica.com

Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:35 AM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Traffic Near-miss





 My question to the group is: wasn't there a # for reporting crazy drivers

posted a while ago? If not, does someone have a # for the appropriate

entity within the Portland and/or Washington county police dept. other

than

 911??



You might try the Oregon Dept of Transportation...not sure of the exact

entity, but I think there is a section that deals with complaints like that.



Also, of course, Qwest itself (although, if they are like Tri-Met, they will

go as far as to apologies for the "problem YOU had....").



David





"Let's drink to the hard working people

Let's drink to the lowly of birth

Raise your glass to the good and the evil

Let's drink to the salt of the earth



Say a prayer for the common foot soldier

Spare a thought for his back breaking work

Say a prayer for his wife and his children

Who burn the fires and who still till the earth



And when I search a faceless crowd

A swirling mass of gray and

Black and white

They don't look real to me

In fact, they look so strange



Raise your glass to the hard working people

Let's drink to the uncounted heads

Let's think of the wavering millions

Who need leading but get gamblers instead



Spare a thought for the stay-at-home voter

Empty eyes gaze at strange beauty shows

And a parade of the gray suited grafters

A choice of cancer or polio



And when I look in the faceless crowd

A swirling mass of grays and

Black and white

They don't look real to me

Or don't they look so strange



Let's drink to the hard working people

Let's think of the lowly of birth

Spare a thought for the rag taggy people

Let's drink to the salt of the earth



Let's drink to the hard working people

Let's drink to the salt of the earth

Let's drink to the two thousand million

Let's think of the humble of birth"



Salt Of The Earth, Rolling Stones



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If it is a near-miss then that means you hit them but almost missed.



Nearly hit seems more appropriate.



Don't mean to downplay the situation as I nearly hit a nice BMW at Sandy today. Got to watch out for the sidewalk, they are invisible to drivers.



David Hart

North River Racing

Southwest Washington's Cycling team!



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Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:35 AM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Traffic Near-miss





> My question to the group is: wasn't there a # for reporting crazy drivers

> posted a while ago? If not, does someone have a # for the appropriate

> entity within the Portland and/or Washington county police dept. other

than

> 911??



You might try the Oregon Dept of Transportation...not sure of the exact

entity, but I think there is a section that deals with complaints like that.



Also, of course, Qwest itself (although, if they are like Tri-Met, they will

go as far as to apologies for the "problem YOU had....").



David





"Let's drink to the hard working people

Let's drink to the lowly of birth

Raise your glass to the good and the evil

Let's drink to the salt of the earth



Say a prayer for the common foot soldier

Spare a thought for his back breaking work

Say a prayer for his wife and his children

Who burn the fires and who still till the earth



And when I search a faceless crowd

A swirling mass of gray and

Black and white

They don't look real to me

In fact, they look so strange



Raise your glass to the hard working people

Let's drink to the uncounted heads

Let's think of the wavering millions

Who need leading but get gamblers instead



Spare a thought for the stay-at-home voter

Empty eyes gaze at strange beauty shows

And a parade of the gray suited grafters

A choice of cancer or polio



And when I look in the faceless crowd

A swirling mass of grays and

Black and white

They don't look real to me

Or don't they look so strange



Let's drink to the hard working people

Let's think of the lowly of birth

Spare a thought for the rag taggy people

Let's drink to the salt of the earth



Let's drink to the hard working people

Let's drink to the salt of the earth

Let's drink to the two thousand million

Let's think of the humble of birth"



Salt Of The Earth, Rolling Stones



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<DIV>If it is a near-miss then that means you hit them but almost missed.</DIV>

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<DIV>Nearly hit seems more appropriate. </DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV>Don't mean to downplay the situation as I nearly hit a nice BMW at Sandy

today.  Got to watch out for the sidewalk, they are invisible to

drivers.</DIV>

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<DIV>David Hart <BR>North River Racing <BR>Southwest Washington's Cycling team!

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<DIV><BR></DIV>> My question to the group is:  wasn't there a # for

reporting crazy drivers<BR>> posted a while ago?  If not, does someone

have a # for the appropriate<BR>> entity within the Portland and/or

Washington county police dept. other<BR>than<BR>> 911??<BR><BR>You might

try the Oregon Dept of Transportation...not sure of the exact<BR>entity, but I

think there is a section that deals with complaints like that.<BR><BR>Also, of

course, Qwest itself (although, if they are like Tri-Met, they will<BR>go as

far as to apologies for the "problem YOU

had....").<BR><BR>David<BR><BR><BR>"Let's drink to the hard working

people<BR>Let's drink to the lowly of birth<BR>Raise your glass to the good

and the evil<BR>Let's drink to the salt of the earth<BR><BR>Say a prayer for

the common foot soldier<BR>Spare a thought for his back breaking work<BR>Say a

prayer for his wife and his children<BR>Who burn the fires and who still till

the earth<BR><BR>And when I search a faceless crowd<BR>A swirling mass of gray

and<BR>Black and white<BR>They don't look real to me<BR>In fact, they look so

strange<BR><BR>Raise your glass to the hard working people<BR>Let's drink to

the uncounted heads<BR>Let's think of the wavering millions<BR>Who need

leading but get gamblers instead<BR><BR>Spare a thought for the stay-at-home

voter<BR>Empty eyes gaze at strange beauty shows<BR>And a parade of the gray

suited grafters<BR>A choice of cancer or polio<BR><BR>And when I look in the

faceless crowd<BR>A swirling mass of grays and<BR>Black and white<BR>They

don't look real to me<BR>Or don't they look so strange<BR><BR>Let's drink to

the hard working people<BR>Let's think of the lowly of birth<BR>Spare a

thought for the rag taggy people<BR>Let's drink to the salt of the

earth<BR><BR>Let's drink to the hard working people<BR>Let's drink to the salt

of the earth<BR>Let's drink to the two thousand million<BR>Let's think of the

humble of birth"<BR><BR>Salt Of The Earth, Rolling Stones<BR><BR>To respond to

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.David.Auker.

2004-08-19



 I nearly got squashed this morning on my way to work by a huge Qwest truck.



Try these phone numbers tomorrow, and let us know if ODOT has any sting:



Questions? Contact the ODOT Motor Carrier Transportation Division:

Craig Bonney, 503-378-4851

C. K. Sample, 503-378-6736



Brian

2004-08-19



Report a traffic related item. Read the information on page.

http://www.co.washington.or.us/sheriff/patrol/traf_enf.htm



To report a crime.

detec-@co.washington.or.us





Brian



-----Original Message-----

From: Dave German [mailto:dave_g-@hotmail.com]

Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:15 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Traffic Near-miss



All,



I nearly got squashed this morning on my way to work by a huge Qwest

truck.

So I caught the guy at the next light and semi-politely told him he

needs to

be more careful and share the road. His response was that I need to

share

the road. So I think Qwest and the cops need to know this guy nearly

took

me out and is a safety concern behind the wheel.



My question to the group is: wasn't there a # for reporting crazy

drivers

posted a while ago? If not, does someone have a # for the appropriate

entity within the Portland and/or Washington county police dept. other

than

911??



Thanks



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.David.Auker.

2004-08-19



 My question to the group is: wasn't there a # for reporting crazy drivers

posted a while ago? If not, does someone have a # for the appropriate

entity within the Portland and/or Washington county police dept. other

than

 911??



You might try the Oregon Dept of Transportation...not sure of the exact

entity, but I think there is a section that deals with complaints like that.



Also, of course, Qwest itself (although, if they are like Tri-Met, they will

go as far as to apologies for the "problem YOU had....").



David





"Let's drink to the hard working people

Let's drink to the lowly of birth

Raise your glass to the good and the evil

Let's drink to the salt of the earth



Say a prayer for the common foot soldier

Spare a thought for his back breaking work

Say a prayer for his wife and his children

Who burn the fires and who still till the earth



And when I search a faceless crowd

A swirling mass of gray and

Black and white

They don't look real to me

In fact, they look so strange



Raise your glass to the hard working people

Let's drink to the uncounted heads

Let's think of the wavering millions

Who need leading but get gamblers instead



Spare a thought for the stay-at-home voter

Empty eyes gaze at strange beauty shows

And a parade of the gray suited grafters

A choice of cancer or polio



And when I look in the faceless crowd

A swirling mass of grays and

Black and white

They don't look real to me

Or don't they look so strange



Let's drink to the hard working people

Let's think of the lowly of birth

Spare a thought for the rag taggy people

Let's drink to the salt of the earth



Let's drink to the hard working people

Let's drink to the salt of the earth

Let's drink to the two thousand million

Let's think of the humble of birth"



Salt Of The Earth, Rolling Stones



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2004-08-19



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you can call police non-emergency, the # is in the phone book, it is different for each county.



They may try to brush you off, with a "no contact=no crime" position, but this is not the law. You should report it with as much information as you can, type of vehicle, license plate, description of driver. You should also follow up with Qwest b/c I do not think they will be happy with their driver if teir drver ends up causing trouble for them.



I am happy to talk with you off list about this more if you wish.



Mark Ginsberg, Esq.





Dave German <dave_g-@hotmail.com> wrote:

All,



I nearly got squashed this morning on my way to work by a huge Qwest truck.

So I caught the guy at the next light and semi-politely told him he needs to

be more careful and share the road. His response was that I need to share

the road. So I think Qwest and the cops need to know this guy nearly took

me out and is a safety concern behind the wheel.



My question to the group is: wasn't there a # for reporting crazy drivers

posted a while ago? If not, does someone have a # for the appropriate

entity within the Portland and/or Washington county police dept. other than

911??



Thanks



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<DIV>They may try to brush you off, with a "no contact=no crime" position, but this is not the law. You should report it with as much information as you can, type of vehicle, license plate, description of driver. You should also follow up with Qwest b/c I do not think they will be happy with their driver if teir drver ends up causing trouble for them.</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV>I am happy to talk with you off list about this more if you wish.</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV>Mark Ginsberg, Esq.</DIV>

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Dave German

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All,



I nearly got squashed this morning on my way to work by a huge Qwest truck.

So I caught the guy at the next light and semi-politely told him he needs to

be more careful and share the road. His response was that I need to share

the road. So I think Qwest and the cops need to know this guy nearly took

me out and is a safety concern behind the wheel.



My question to the group is: wasn't there a # for reporting crazy drivers

posted a while ago? If not, does someone have a # for the appropriate

entity within the Portland and/or Washington county police dept. other than

911??



Thanks



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