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I agree with Mathew and the preference isn't with the person, its with the values. I was surprised and disappointed a few months ago when an email emerged from the 'chat' group that called on the cycling community as a voice for rolling back environmental legislation in the name of a few more miles of single track. I don't have the time to explain here what a farce this concept is. The current administration is holding hands with the timber industry and if we allow them to reduce protections they aren't going to show up with their mountain bikes on top of their SUVs or their cross-bikes slung over their shoulders. They are going to show up with industrialized logging machinery and there won't be any trees left to ride through, over, under or around when they leave. Do I need to quote science here to appeal to everyone on the most base, flat, unemotional level? There is very, very little untouched native forest left in this state ( or globally for that matter ) and we are blessed to
have any. You could be a resident of Iowa, its not much like riding the Little North Fork of the Santiam River, is it.
This expands the commentary beyond the Gorge issue but there is no separation fundamentally.
regards,
Milan Seethoff
Matthew Wolpert <matthew.-@gmail.com> wrote:
I disagree that the aforementioned email is not relevant here. Land
use planning is directly relevant to bicycling in Oregon. Without the
"political" decision to conserve our land, many places that are
currently enjoyable to ride in would be significantly less so.
I have been on many peaceful rides that began near downtown Portland
but quickly become scenic rural areas. If it weren't for Oregon's
limiting of urban sprawal, I'd be forced to spend more time biking
through and past subdivisions and shopping malls.
Sometimes it seems like people here don't realize how nice the Urban
Growth Boundary makes it for us bicyclists. Where I grew up, every
year the sprawal creeps a few more miles outward, devouring once
peaceful farmland and diminishing the bicycling experience.
Respectfully,
Matthew
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:08:53 -0500, Adams, Mike wrote:
Not another non bicycle\political forum. Yuk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mike Adams
-----Original Message-----
From: Schreck, George [mailto:george.-@pacificorp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 9:11 AM
To: Gardner, Andrew (Stoel); Winslow, Mike; Werner, Bruce; Tucker, Roy;
Obra Chat
Subject: [OBRA Chat] FW: George, Tell the Oregon Senate Committee not to
weaken Columbia
-----Original Message-----
From: Oregon Conservation Network [mailto:oc-@olcv.org]
Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 2:10 PM
To: Schreck, George
Subject: George, Tell the Oregon Senate Committee not to weaken Columbia
Gorge Protections
Dear George Schreck,
Stop Anti-Gorge Legislators from Weakening Gorge Protections
Take Action to follow up on an egregious Anti-Gorge Senate
Hearing
On August 18th, foes of Columbia River Gorge protections, led by
Senator Gary George, held a so-called Senate "hearing" which
provided a platform for activists opposed to Columbia Gorge
protections to criticize the National Scenic Area Act and the
Columbia River Gorge Commission, as well as Oregon's land use
laws in general.
Groups opposed to land use planning and Gorge protection, like
Oregonians in Action (OIA) and Columbia Gorge United (CGU),
played a significant role in bringing this hearing to fruition.
The entire hearing was heavily slanted toward weakening Gorge
protections because these groups have worked closely with
committee chair Senator George.
These groups are out of step with most Oregonians. In fact, most
Oregonians overwhelmingly believe in protecting the Gorge, so it
is very important that we get our voices into the record.
It is clear that Senators George (R- Newberg), Bill Fisher (R-
Roseburg), and Ted Ferrioli (R- John Day) held the hearing to
lay the groundwork for legislation that will weaken Gorge
protections during the 2005 Oregon legislative session -
probably in the form of de-funding the Gorge Commission or other
efforts to weaken Oregon's land use laws. We must not let this
happen!
We urge you to send a letter to the Senate Natural Resources
Interim Committee by September 17, 2004. Your letter will then
be included as public testimony in the hearing record.
Follow the links below to send a letter...
You can take action on this alert either via email (please see
directions below) or via the web at:
http://actionnetwork.org/campaign/gorge/su7b2pjxn76d
Visit the web address below to tell your friends about this.
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We encourage you to take action by September 17, 2004
Stop Anti-Gorge Legislators from Weakening Gorge Protections
INSTRUCTIONS TO RESPOND VIA THE WEB:
If you have access to a web browser, you can take action on this
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INSTRUCTIONS TO RESPOND VIA EMAIL:
Just choose the "reply to sender" option on your email program.
You MUST Reply with "TakeAction" in the subject.
Your letter will be addressed and sent to:
Senator Gary George
----THIS LETTER WILL BE SENT IN YOUR NAME----
Dear [decision maker name automatically inserted here],
Thank you for the opportunity to provide written testimony on
the Columbia River Gorge National Scenic Area and the Gorge
Commission. Please add these comments to the official record and
include them in the findings of fact.
The Columbia River Gorge is a natural scenic wonder that must be
protected for future generations to experience. The National
Scenic Area Act protects the Gorge from over development and
also helps support the Gorge economy. Since the Gorge Act was
passed in 1986, the federal government has provided $62 million
to purchase land from willing sellers and $36 million for
economic and recreational development. The Gorge Act also
protects property rights by ensuring that every land owner has
an economic use for their property.
The Gorge Commission is the agency most responsible for ensuring
that the Columbia Gorge is protected. The Oregon Legislature
must provide necessary funding for the Gorge Commission to
carryout its duty to protect the Columbia River Gorge. The
Legislature should also advocate for more federal funding to
purchase key lands from willing sellers, compensate the counties
for lost property tax revenue and to stimulate economic
development in urban areas of the Gorge.
Thank you for including these comments in the official record
and in the findings of fact.
----END OF LETTER TO BE SENT----
Sincerely,
George Schreck
cc:
Interim Committee Administrator Ray Kelly
Senator Bill Fisher
Senator Frank Shields
Senator Joan Dukes
Senator Rick Metsger
Senator Roger Beyer
Senator Ted Ferrioli
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<DIV>I agree with Mathew and the preference isn't with the person, its with the values. I was surprised and disappointed a few months ago when an email emerged from the 'chat' group that called on the cycling community as a voice for rolling back environmental legislation in the name of a few more miles of single track. I don't have the time to explain here what a farce this concept is. The current administration is holding hands with the timber industry and if we allow them to reduce protections they aren't going to show up with their mountain bikes on top of their SUVs or their cross-bikes slung over their shoulders. They are going to show up with industrialized logging machinery and there won't be any trees left to ride through, over, under or around when they leave. Do I need to quote science here to appeal to everyone on the most base, flat, unemotional level? There is very, very little untouched native forest left in this state ( or globally
for that matter ) and we are blessed to have any. You could be a resident of Iowa, its not much like riding the Little North Fork of the Santiam River, is it. </DIV>
<DIV>This expands the commentary beyond the Gorge issue but there is no separation fundamentally.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>regards,</DIV>
<DIV>Milan Seethoff</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Matthew Wolpert <matthew.-@gmail.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">I disagree that the aforementioned email is not relevant here. Land<BR>use planning is directly relevant to bicycling in Oregon. Without the<BR>"political" decision to conserve our land, many places that are<BR>currently enjoyable to ride in would be significantly less so.<BR><BR>I have been on many peaceful rides that began near downtown Portland<BR>but quickly become scenic rural areas. If it weren't for Oregon's<BR>limiting of urban sprawal, I'd be forced to spend more time biking<BR>through and past subdivisions and shopping malls.<BR><BR>Sometimes it seems like people here don't realize how nice the Urban<BR>Growth Boundary makes it for us bicyclists. Where I grew up, every<BR>year the sprawal creeps a few more miles outward, devouring once<BR>peaceful farmland and diminishing the bicycling experience.<BR><BR>Respectfully,<BR>Matthew <BR><BR><BR><BR>On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:08:53
-0500, Adams, Mike <MAD-@HUTTIG.COM>wrote:<BR>> Not another non bicycle\political forum. Yuk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<BR>> Mike Adams<BR>> <BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: Schreck, George [mailto:george.-@pacificorp.com]<BR>> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 9:11 AM<BR>> To: Gardner, Andrew (Stoel); Winslow, Mike; Werner, Bruce; Tucker, Roy;<BR>> Obra Chat<BR>> Subject: [OBRA Chat] FW: George, Tell the Oregon Senate Committee not to<BR>> weaken Columbia<BR>> <BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: Oregon Conservation Network [mailto:oc-@olcv.org]<BR>> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 2:10 PM<BR>> To: Schreck, George<BR>> Subject: George, Tell the Oregon Senate Committee not to weaken Columbia<BR>> Gorge Protections<BR>> <BR>> Dear George Schreck,<BR>> <BR>> Stop Anti-Gorge Legislators from Weakening Gorge Protections<BR>> <BR>> Take Action to follow up on an egregious Anti-Gorge Senate<BR>>
Hearing<BR>> <BR>> On August 18th, foes of Columbia River Gorge protections, led by<BR>> Senator Gary George, held a so-called Senate "hearing" which<BR>> provided a platform for activists opposed to Columbia Gorge<BR>> protections to criticize the National Scenic Area Act and the<BR>> Columbia River Gorge Commission, as well as Oregon's land use<BR>> laws in general.<BR>> <BR>> Groups opposed to land use planning and Gorge protection, like<BR>> Oregonians in Action (OIA) and Columbia Gorge United (CGU),<BR>> played a significant role in bringing this hearing to fruition.<BR>> The entire hearing was heavily slanted toward weakening Gorge<BR>> protections because these groups have worked closely with<BR>> committee chair Senator George.<BR>> <BR>> These groups are out of step with most Oregonians. In fact, most<BR>> Oregonians overwhelmingly believe in protecting the Gorge, so it<BR>> is very important that we get our voices into
the record.<BR>> <BR>> It is clear that Senators George (R- Newberg), Bill Fisher (R-<BR>> Roseburg), and Ted Ferrioli (R- John Day) held the hearing to<BR>> lay the groundwork for legislation that will weaken Gorge<BR>> protections during the 2005 Oregon legislative session -<BR>> probably in the form of de-funding the Gorge Commission or other<BR>> efforts to weaken Oregon's land use laws. We must not let this<BR>> happen!<BR>> <BR>> We urge you to send a letter to the Senate Natural Resources<BR>> Interim Committee by September 17, 2004. Your letter will then<BR>> be included as public testimony in the hearing record.<BR>> <BR>> Follow the links below to send a letter...<BR>> <BR>> You can take action on this alert either via email (please see<BR>> directions below) or via the web at:<BR>> http://actionnetwork.org/campaign/gorge/su7b2pjxn76d<BR>> <BR>> Visit the web address below to tell your friends about this.<BR>>
http://actionnetwork.org/campaign/gorge/forward/su7b2pjxn76d<BR>> <BR>> We encourage you to take action by September 17, 2004<BR>> <BR>> Stop Anti-Gorge Legislators from Weakening Gorge Protections<BR>> <BR>> INSTRUCTIONS TO RESPOND VIA THE WEB:<BR>> If you have access to a web browser, you can take action on this<BR>> alert by going to the following URL:<BR>> <BR>> http://actionnetwork.org/campaign/gorge/su7b2pjxn76d<BR>> <BR>> INSTRUCTIONS TO RESPOND VIA EMAIL:<BR>> Just choose the "reply to sender" option on your email program.<BR>> <BR>> You MUST Reply with "TakeAction" in the subject.<BR>> <BR>> Your letter will be addressed and sent to:<BR>> Senator Gary George<BR>> <BR>> ----THIS LETTER WILL BE SENT IN YOUR NAME----<BR>> Dear [decision maker name automatically inserted here],<BR>> <BR>> Thank you for the opportunity to provide written testimony on<BR>> the Columbia River Gorge National Scenic Area and the
Gorge<BR>> Commission. Please add these comments to the official record and<BR>> include them in the findings of fact.<BR>> <BR>> The Columbia River Gorge is a natural scenic wonder that must be<BR>> protected for future generations to experience. The National<BR>> Scenic Area Act protects the Gorge from over development and<BR>> also helps support the Gorge economy. Since the Gorge Act was<BR>> passed in 1986, the federal government has provided $62 million<BR>> to purchase land from willing sellers and $36 million for<BR>> economic and recreational development. The Gorge Act also<BR>> protects property rights by ensuring that every land owner has<BR>> an economic use for their property.<BR>> <BR>> The Gorge Commission is the agency most responsible for ensuring<BR>> that the Columbia Gorge is protected. The Oregon Legislature<BR>> must provide necessary funding for the Gorge Commission to<BR>> carryout its duty to protect the
Columbia River Gorge. The<BR>> Legislature should also advocate for more federal funding to<BR>> purchase key lands from willing sellers, compensate the counties<BR>> for lost property tax revenue and to stimulate economic<BR>> development in urban areas of the Gorge.<BR>> <BR>> Thank you for including these comments in the official record<BR>> and in the findings of fact.<BR>> <BR>> ----END OF LETTER TO BE SENT----<BR>> <BR>> Sincerely,<BR>> George Schreck<BR>> <BR>> cc:<BR>> Interim Committee Administrator Ray Kelly<BR>> Senator Bill Fisher<BR>> Senator Frank Shields<BR>> Senator Joan Dukes<BR>> Senator Rick Metsger<BR>> Senator Roger Beyer<BR>> Senator Ted Ferrioli<BR>> <BR>> --------------------------------------------------<BR>> <BR>> If you received this message from a friend, you can sign up for<BR>> Oregon Conservation Network at:<BR>> <BR>>
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