RE: Cleaning up the broken glass

stevea-@comcast.net

2004-09-03



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Well, you don't actually have to go adopting sections of road usually.

Like for the I-205 bike path, there's a contact for glass/incident clean

up and it's:

Basil.R.CH-@odot.state.or.us

There are other contacts for other areas of the city (not sure what they

are). I carry the whisk broom in my backpack for the smaller incidents

because I hate to call them and have them waste critical man hours to

clean up a 2 minute incident. The bigger ones overwhelm my little itty,

bitty broom so I e-mail Basil and he has it taken care of. I don't know

the contact for the East Side Esplanade, and, Marine drive is the

Portland Parks department responsibility and they are so short handed

that it can take them like two weeks to get to it sometimes. So, I think

it can be a team effort with maybe us and the governing bodies to help

us keep a clearer bike path to where we are going.



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From: .David.Auker. [mailto:Dav-@Hevanet.com]

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 I suggest that we riders/commuters/racers get together and pick a 'hot

spot' area.



I think this is a neat idea. (In my normal riding, I don't stop unless

it's green and $5.00+...)



I once took a pair of long-bladed pruning shears to an weed-overgrown

spot on SW Terwilliger (kind of a scary load to carry in a pack on a

bike...).



I don't know about OBRA actually "adopting" a section of road somewhere

(Rose City Wheelmen (now Team Rose City) used to maintain part of the

Old Scenic Highway, didn't they (we)?), but an occasional clean-up would

be a great community service.



David



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From: David <mailto:kerch-@hotmail.com> Hart

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Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 6:49 PM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Cleaning up the broken glass





I suggest that we riders/commuters/racers get together and pick a 'hot

spot' area.



By I-205 trail just south of interchange of Marine driver there is a ton

of gravel that needs pushbroom attention.



It would take, what, an hour to clean up?



List the places and we can clean up certain areas that need it.



Like the bike path under the bridge at Marine Drive and I-5 entrance (I

use it to go to PIR) has lots of glass due to the nightly activities.



I could see a few guys/girls going out on the back of truck following

the bike lane on N Vancouver and sweep up areas that cause headaches. I

would gladly be part of that. Not much time or effort and think of the

headaches of not having flats during the winter time.



Just a thought. And thanks Steve Long, a great teammate, for cleaning

up someone else's mess. Same to the others. A good teammate!













David Hart

North River Racing

Southwest Washington's Cycling team!







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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=510243304-04092004>Well,

you don't actually have to go adopting sections of road usually. Like for the

I-205 bike path, there's a contact for glass/incident clean up and

it's:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=510243304-04092004><A

href="mailto:Basil.R.CH-@odot.state.or.us">Basil.R.CH-@odot.state.or.us</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=510243304-04092004>There

are other contacts for other areas of the city (not sure what they are). I carry

the whisk broom in my backpack for the smaller incidents because I hate to call

them and have them waste critical man hours to clean up a 2 minute incident. The

bigger ones overwhelm my little itty, bitty broom so I e-mail Basil and he has

it taken care of. I don't know the contact for the East Side Esplanade, and,

Marine drive is the Portland Parks department responsibility and they

are so short handed that it can take them like two weeks to get to it sometimes.

So, I think it can be a team effort with maybe us and the governing bodies to

help us keep a clearer bike path to where we are going.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>

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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> .David.Auker.

[mailto:Dav-@Hevanet.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 03, 2004 8:01

PM<BR><B>To:</B> kerch-@hotmail.com; bi-@joefield.com;

Steve-@clark.wa.gov; ob-@topica.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OBRA Chat]

Cleaning up the broken glass<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Garamond color=#808080 size=4>><EM><FONT

color=#800080><STRONG>I suggest that we riders/commuters/racers get together

and pick a 'hot spot' area.</STRONG></FONT></EM></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Garamond color=#808080 size=4></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Garamond color=#808080 size=4>I think this is a neat

idea.  (In my normal riding, I don't stop unless it's green and

$5.00+...)</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Garamond color=#808080 size=4></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Garamond color=#808080 size=4>I once took a pair of

long-bladed pruning shears to an weed-overgrown spot on SW Terwilliger

(kind of a scary load to carry in a pack on a bike...).</FONT></DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Garamond color=#808080 size=4>I don't know about OBRA

actually "adopting" a section of road somewhere (Rose City

Wheelmen (now Team Rose City) used to maintain part of the Old

Scenic Highway, didn't they (we)?), but an occasional clean-up would be a

great community service.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Garamond color=#808080 size=4>David</FONT> </DIV>

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    <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [OBRA Chat] Cleaning up

    the broken glass</DIV>

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    <DIV>

    <P>I suggest that we riders/commuters/racers get together and pick a 'hot

    spot' area.</P>

    <P>By I-205 trail just south of interchange of Marine driver there is a ton

    of gravel that needs pushbroom attention.</P>

    <P>It would take, what, an hour to clean up?</P>

    <P>List the places and we can clean up certain areas that need it.</P>

    <P>Like the bike path under the bridge at Marine Drive and I-5 entrance (I

    use it to go to PIR) has lots of glass due to the nightly activities.</P>

    <P>I could see a few guys/girls going out on the back of truck following the

    bike lane on N Vancouver and sweep up areas that cause headaches. I would

    gladly be part of that. Not much time or effort and think of the headaches

    of not having flats during the winter time.</P>

    <P>Just a thought.  And thanks Steve Long, a great teammate, for

    cleaning up someone else's mess.  Same to the others.  A good

    teammate!<BR><BR></P><BR><BR><BR>

    <DIV>David Hart <BR>North River Racing <BR>Southwest Washington's Cycling

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Alan McGuire-Dale

2004-09-03



I often commute the Springwater Sellwood route from Gresham to Portland.

The Johnson Creek section through 102nd is the roughest for glass. I

carry a whisk broom/dust pan combination often found in the RV section

of stores to the keep the trails clean. It takes less time to sweep a

pile of glass than to change a tire! However, the horse dung - that's a

whole different story.





bike wrote:

 

I commute downtown on my bike from Washington Park and I periodically

see broken glass in the bike lanes. I like the "whisk broom in the

pannier" idea and I will start carrying one to clean up the broken

glass that I see. I urge others to join in!



-Joe



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-----Original Message-----

From: Steve-@clark.wa.gov [mailto:Steve-@clark.wa.gov]

Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 9:59 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Paradise lost on bicycle freeway





I've been riding the Eastside Esplanade for a while now and it is truly

a

bicycle freeway down in the Oak's Bottom area. This path has been

pristine

ever since it's been put in place in terms of no glass breakage.

Recently,

however, it seems that the glass breakers have managed to find their way

down there and I've swept up two incidents with the little whisk broom I

carry with me in my backpack when I commute. It just broke my heart to

see

that first glass incident down there and swept it up immediately. This

morning there was another one and I got rid of it just as quickly.



I wonder if it's worth the effort to try and get other commuters in the

OBRA

community to perhaps carry a whisk broom in their packs when they

commute

for the same purpose. It only took me a couple of minutes to sweep this

mornings' incident to the side of the path.



Steve Long

NRR



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.David.Auker.

2004-09-03



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 I suggest that we riders/commuters/racers get together and pick a 'hot spot' area.



I think this is a neat idea. (In my normal riding, I don't stop unless it's green and $5.00+...)



I once took a pair of long-bladed pruning shears to an weed-overgrown spot on SW Terwilliger (kind of a scary load to carry in a pack on a bike...).



I don't know about OBRA actually "adopting" a section of road somewhere (Rose City Wheelmen (now Team Rose City) used to maintain part of the Old Scenic Highway, didn't they (we)?), but an occasional clean-up would be a great community service.



David

----- Original Message -----

From: David Hart

To: bi-@joefield.com ; Steve-@clark.wa.gov ; ob-@topica.com

Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 6:49 PM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Cleaning up the broken glass





I suggest that we riders/commuters/racers get together and pick a 'hot spot' area.



By I-205 trail just south of interchange of Marine driver there is a ton of gravel that needs pushbroom attention.



It would take, what, an hour to clean up?



List the places and we can clean up certain areas that need it.



Like the bike path under the bridge at Marine Drive and I-5 entrance (I use it to go to PIR) has lots of glass due to the nightly activities.



I could see a few guys/girls going out on the back of truck following the bike lane on N Vancouver and sweep up areas that cause headaches. I would gladly be part of that. Not much time or effort and think of the headaches of not having flats during the winter time.



Just a thought. And thanks Steve Long, a great teammate, for cleaning up someone else's mess. Same to the others. A good teammate!















David Hart

North River Racing

Southwest Washington's Cycling team!





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<DIV><FONT face=Garamond color=#808080 size=4>><EM><FONT

color=#800080><STRONG>I suggest that we riders/commuters/racers get together and

pick a 'hot spot' area.</STRONG></FONT></EM></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Garamond color=#808080 size=4></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Garamond color=#808080 size=4>I think this is a neat idea. 

(In my normal riding, I don't stop unless it's green and $5.00+...)</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Garamond color=#808080 size=4></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Garamond color=#808080 size=4>I once took a pair of

long-bladed pruning shears to an weed-overgrown spot on SW Terwilliger

(kind of a scary load to carry in a pack on a bike...).</FONT></DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Garamond color=#808080 size=4>I don't know about OBRA

actually "adopting" a section of road somewhere (Rose City

Wheelmen (now Team Rose City) used to maintain part of the Old Scenic

Highway, didn't they (we)?), but an occasional clean-up would be a great

community service.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Garamond color=#808080 size=4>David</FONT> </DIV>

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<P>I suggest that we riders/commuters/racers get together and pick a 'hot

spot' area.</P>

<P>By I-205 trail just south of interchange of Marine driver there is a ton of

gravel that needs pushbroom attention.</P>

<P>It would take, what, an hour to clean up?</P>

<P>List the places and we can clean up certain areas that need it.</P>

<P>Like the bike path under the bridge at Marine Drive and I-5 entrance (I use

it to go to PIR) has lots of glass due to the nightly activities.</P>

<P>I could see a few guys/girls going out on the back of truck following the

bike lane on N Vancouver and sweep up areas that cause headaches. I would

gladly be part of that. Not much time or effort and think of the headaches of

not having flats during the winter time.</P>

<P>Just a thought.  And thanks Steve Long, a great teammate, for

cleaning up someone else's mess.  Same to the others.  A good

teammate!<BR><BR></P><BR><BR><BR>

<DIV>David Hart <BR>North River Racing <BR>Southwest Washington's Cycling

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Dan H

2004-09-03



Maybe ODOT would let us put "Adopt-a-path" signs up with team names.

Remember the episode of Sinefeld where Kramer adopted a section of road and

blacked out the dividing line to make it wider?



----- Original Message -----

From: David Hart

To: bi-@joefield.com ; Steve-@clark.wa.gov ; ob-@topica.com

Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 6:49 PM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Cleaning up the broken glass





I suggest that we riders/commuters/racers get together and pick a 'hot spot'

area.

By I-205 trail just south of interchange of Marine driver there is a ton of

gravel that needs pushbroom attention.

It would take, what, an hour to clean up?

List the places and we can clean up certain areas that need it.

Like the bike path under the bridge at Marine Drive and I-5 entrance (I use

it to go to PIR) has lots of glass due to the nightly activities.

I could see a few guys/girls going out on the back of truck following the

bike lane on N Vancouver and sweep up areas that cause headaches. I would

gladly be part of that. Not much time or effort and think of the headaches

of not having flats during the winter time.

Just a thought. And thanks Steve Long, a great teammate, for cleaning up

someone else's mess. Same to the others. A good teammate!













David Hart

North River Racing

Southwest Washington's Cycling team!



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David Hart

2004-09-03



<html><div style='background-color:'><P>I suggest that we riders/commuters/racers get together and pick a 'hot spot' area.</P>

<P>By I-205 trail just south of interchange of Marine driver there is a ton of gravel that needs pushbroom attention.</P>

<P>It would take, what, an hour to clean up?</P>

<P>List the places and we can clean up certain areas that need it.</P>

<P>Like the bike path under the bridge at Marine Drive and I-5 entrance (I use it to go to PIR) has lots of glass due to the nightly activities.</P>

<P>I could see a few guys/girls going out on the back of truck following the bike lane on N Vancouver and sweep up areas that cause headaches. I would gladly be part of that. Not much time or effort and think of the headaches of not having flats during the winter time.</P>

<P>Just a thought.  And thanks Steve Long, a great teammate, for cleaning up someone else's mess.  Same to the others.  A good teammate!<BR><BR></P><BR><BR><BR>

<DIV>David Hart <BR>North River Racing <BR>Southwest Washington's Cycling team! <BR></DIV></div></html>





I commute downtown on my bike from Washington Park and I periodically see broken glass in the bike lanes. I like the "whisk broom in the pannier" idea and I will start carrying one to clean up the broken glass that I see. I urge others to join in!



-Joe



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From: Steve-@clark.wa.gov [mailto:Steve-@clark.wa.gov]

Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 9:59 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Paradise lost on bicycle freeway





I've been riding the Eastside Esplanade for a while now and it is truly a

bicycle freeway down in the Oak's Bottom area. This path has been pristine

ever since it's been put in place in terms of no glass breakage. Recently,

however, it seems that the glass breakers have managed to find their way

down there and I've swept up two incidents with the little whisk broom I

carry with me in my backpack when I commute. It just broke my heart to see

that first glass incident down there and swept it up immediately. This

morning there was another one and I got rid of it just as quickly.



I wonder if it's worth the effort to try and get other commuters in the OBRA

community to perhaps carry a whisk broom in their packs when they commute

for the same purpose. It only took me a couple of minutes to sweep this

mornings' incident to the side of the path.



Steve Long

NRR



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