Kryptonite locks

Tracy Smith

2004-09-16



This is apparently not a new problem.



http://www.bikebiz.co.uk/daily-news/article.php?id=4637



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-----Original Message-----

From: Mark Wexler [mailto:mark.w-@comcast.net]

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 10:18 AM

To: ob-@topica.com; brando-@member.aiche.org

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Kryptonite locks



This technique is also found to open cylindrical locks made by

Kensington for laptop computers. The technique uses a bit of cardboard

wrapped around the pen.



==mark





brando-@member.aiche.org wrote:

 

I opened my 10 year old kryptolok yesterday using the pen trick in

about

 30

seconds, I had to cut a slit in the pen to get it into the barrel of

the

 lock but it worked. I tried it on another newer lock and couldn't get

it

 to

turn after a couple minutes of trying even though the pen fit easier.

There's been a couple postings by locksmiths on the original

bikeforums

 thread about why the pen trick works (it's an inherent flaw in the

round

 key

design). The original poster on bikeforums did this on a brand new

lock

 and

a number of the follow-up posters have said they went to their LBS and

opened half the locks in the shop.



Word is already out there, with it being this easy this will lead to

more

"casual" bike thieves. The hardcore thieves would find a way to get

the

 bike

no matter what but when it's this easy there will be more people who

will

try it for kicks (and how suspicious is a bic pen anyways).



If you use a lock with a round key you really should stop using it and

switch to a different kind of lock (like a masterlock and chain) at

least

for now. Any lock can be defeated but it just shouldn't be this easy.



-----Original Message-----

From: Aaron M Harrison [mailto:rambob-@juno.com]

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 6:01 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Kryptonite locks





Sadly, the Bic pen trick works! I was able to open a brand-new

Kryptonite

EV2000 lock more than a dozen times yesterday! It was a little tricky

reclosing the locking cylinder, but I suspect your average thief isn't

too interested in reclosing your lock. I tried it later in the evening



 at

home on a much older Kryptonite lock and couldn't get the pen to fit -

apparently the center pin/cylinder on the new Krypto locks are smaller

than their older locks.



Aaron "Rambo" Harrison



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Mark Wexler

2004-09-16



This technique is also found to open cylindrical locks made by

Kensington for laptop computers. The technique uses a bit of cardboard

wrapped around the pen.



==mark





brando-@member.aiche.org wrote:

 

I opened my 10 year old kryptolok yesterday using the pen trick in about

30

seconds, I had to cut a slit in the pen to get it into the barrel of the

lock but it worked. I tried it on another newer lock and couldn't get it

to

turn after a couple minutes of trying even though the pen fit easier.

There's been a couple postings by locksmiths on the original bikeforums

thread about why the pen trick works (it's an inherent flaw in the round

key

design). The original poster on bikeforums did this on a brand new lock

and

a number of the follow-up posters have said they went to their LBS and

opened half the locks in the shop.



Word is already out there, with it being this easy this will lead to

more

"casual" bike thieves. The hardcore thieves would find a way to get the

bike

no matter what but when it's this easy there will be more people who

will

try it for kicks (and how suspicious is a bic pen anyways).



If you use a lock with a round key you really should stop using it and

switch to a different kind of lock (like a masterlock and chain) at

least

for now. Any lock can be defeated but it just shouldn't be this easy.



-----Original Message-----

From: Aaron M Harrison [mailto:rambob-@juno.com]

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 6:01 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Kryptonite locks





Sadly, the Bic pen trick works! I was able to open a brand-new

Kryptonite

EV2000 lock more than a dozen times yesterday! It was a little tricky

reclosing the locking cylinder, but I suspect your average thief isn't

too interested in reclosing your lock. I tried it later in the evening

at

home on a much older Kryptonite lock and couldn't get the pen to fit -

apparently the center pin/cylinder on the new Krypto locks are smaller

than their older locks.



Aaron "Rambo" Harrison



To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.

To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org

To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com







Mark Wexler

M&M Business Services

503.358.8308



brando-@member.aiche.org

2004-09-16



I opened my 10 year old kryptolok yesterday using the pen trick in about 30

seconds, I had to cut a slit in the pen to get it into the barrel of the

lock but it worked. I tried it on another newer lock and couldn't get it to

turn after a couple minutes of trying even though the pen fit easier.

There's been a couple postings by locksmiths on the original bikeforums

thread about why the pen trick works (it's an inherent flaw in the round key

design). The original poster on bikeforums did this on a brand new lock and

a number of the follow-up posters have said they went to their LBS and

opened half the locks in the shop.



Word is already out there, with it being this easy this will lead to more

"casual" bike thieves. The hardcore thieves would find a way to get the bike

no matter what but when it's this easy there will be more people who will

try it for kicks (and how suspicious is a bic pen anyways).



If you use a lock with a round key you really should stop using it and

switch to a different kind of lock (like a masterlock and chain) at least

for now. Any lock can be defeated but it just shouldn't be this easy.



-----Original Message-----

From: Aaron M Harrison [mailto:rambob-@juno.com]

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 6:01 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Kryptonite locks





Sadly, the Bic pen trick works! I was able to open a brand-new Kryptonite

EV2000 lock more than a dozen times yesterday! It was a little tricky

reclosing the locking cylinder, but I suspect your average thief isn't

too interested in reclosing your lock. I tried it later in the evening at

home on a much older Kryptonite lock and couldn't get the pen to fit -

apparently the center pin/cylinder on the new Krypto locks are smaller

than their older locks.



Aaron "Rambo" Harrison



To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.

To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org

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Aaron M Harrison

2004-09-16



Sadly, the Bic pen trick works! I was able to open a brand-new Kryptonite

EV2000 lock more than a dozen times yesterday! It was a little tricky

reclosing the locking cylinder, but I suspect your average thief isn't

too interested in reclosing your lock. I tried it later in the evening at

home on a much older Kryptonite lock and couldn't get the pen to fit -

apparently the center pin/cylinder on the new Krypto locks are smaller

than their older locks.



Aaron "Rambo" Harrison