Re: Kryptonite locks; the video

Scot Jarchow

2004-09-16



Thanks Tim, The video was eye opening! It was really scary to see how

easy it was open the lock!

Scot

Tim M. wrote:

 

See it done before your eyes..here a vid



http://www.engadget.com/common/videos/pt/lock.wmv









----- Original Message -----

From: "Brandon Reed" <brando-@member.aiche.org>

To: "Ob-@Topica. Com" <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:59 AM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Kryptonite locks





 I opened my 10 year old kryptolok yesterday using the pen trick in about

30

 seconds, I had to cut a slit in the pen to get it into the barrel of the

lock but it worked. I tried it on another newer lock and couldn't get it

to

 turn after a couple minutes of trying even though the pen fit easier.

There's been a couple postings by locksmiths on the original bikeforums

thread about why the pen trick works (it's an inherent flaw in the round

key

 design). The original poster on bikeforums did this on a brand new lock

and

 a number of the follow-up posters have said they went to their LBS and

opened half the locks in the shop.



Word is already out there, with it being this easy this will lead to

more

"casual" bike thieves. The hardcore thieves would find a way to get the

bike

 no matter what but when it's this easy there will be more people who

will

try it for kicks (and how suspicious is a bic pen anyways).



If you use a lock with a round key you really should stop using it and

switch to a different kind of lock (like a masterlock and chain) at

least

for now. Any lock can be defeated but it just shouldn't be this easy.



-----Original Message-----

From: Aaron M Harrison [mailto:rambob-@juno.com]

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 6:01 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Kryptonite locks





Sadly, the Bic pen trick works! I was able to open a brand-new

Kryptonite

EV2000 lock more than a dozen times yesterday! It was a little tricky

reclosing the locking cylinder, but I suspect your average thief isn't

too interested in reclosing your lock. I tried it later in the evening

at

home on a much older Kryptonite lock and couldn't get the pen to fit -

apparently the center pin/cylinder on the new Krypto locks are smaller

than their older locks.



Aaron "Rambo" Harrison



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Tim M.

2004-09-16



See it done before your eyes..here a vid



http://www.engadget.com/common/videos/pt/lock.wmv









----- Original Message -----

From: "Brandon Reed" <brando-@member.aiche.org>

To: "Ob-@Topica. Com" <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:59 AM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Kryptonite locks





 I opened my 10 year old kryptolok yesterday using the pen trick in about

30

 seconds, I had to cut a slit in the pen to get it into the barrel of the

lock but it worked. I tried it on another newer lock and couldn't get it

to

 turn after a couple minutes of trying even though the pen fit easier.

There's been a couple postings by locksmiths on the original bikeforums

thread about why the pen trick works (it's an inherent flaw in the round

key

 design). The original poster on bikeforums did this on a brand new lock

and

 a number of the follow-up posters have said they went to their LBS and

opened half the locks in the shop.



Word is already out there, with it being this easy this will lead to more

"casual" bike thieves. The hardcore thieves would find a way to get the

bike

 no matter what but when it's this easy there will be more people who will

try it for kicks (and how suspicious is a bic pen anyways).



If you use a lock with a round key you really should stop using it and

switch to a different kind of lock (like a masterlock and chain) at least

for now. Any lock can be defeated but it just shouldn't be this easy.



-----Original Message-----

From: Aaron M Harrison [mailto:rambob-@juno.com]

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 6:01 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Kryptonite locks





Sadly, the Bic pen trick works! I was able to open a brand-new Kryptonite

EV2000 lock more than a dozen times yesterday! It was a little tricky

reclosing the locking cylinder, but I suspect your average thief isn't

too interested in reclosing your lock. I tried it later in the evening at

home on a much older Kryptonite lock and couldn't get the pen to fit -

apparently the center pin/cylinder on the new Krypto locks are smaller

than their older locks.



Aaron "Rambo" Harrison



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