RE: [SPAM] - Road rage. What to do...? - Email

Schreck, George

2004-09-27



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I agree. Just being thankful is not sufficient. This type of behavior

by idiots should be deterred by filing a compliant.



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From: markjgi-@yahoo.com [mailto:markjgi-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 11:21 AM

To: tgr-@parametrix.com; ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] [SPAM] - Road rage. What to do...? - Email

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I do not disagree about safety being paramount, but we must follow up

with enforcement agencies. If the first officer tells you, "no contact,

no crime" go up the food chain.



When I was 22 or so a guy did something similar to me. He was finally

cited and went to trial, he was convicted. Now the penalty was minor,

but it adds up. The next time he is an idiot the penalty gets larger.



Mark Ginsberg



tgr-@parametrix.com wrote:



You are fortunate to have remained upright and have had nothing

more

thrown at you than a finger.



Next time a car is on your rear wheel, I would be less concerned

with

your rights and more concerned with letting the person get by. I

agree

you have every right to be in that lane, but if someone in a car

does

not want you there...move. No one likes a bully but I know I

have

learned that no matter where I am, if I can avoid a conflict

with a

bully, I will. I find it FAR easier to step aside and give way

than to

proclaim my rights from the hole in the wall my head just got

put

into.... or from the ditch I just landed in with a broken head

or broken

bike.



Send him a post card?? Based on your description of his behavior

I doubt

this guy is going to lose too much sleep over that. These are

not the

people we are going to win o! ver in the great biker PR campaign

and law

enforcement, though obligated, has shown little interest in

reacting to

this type of reckless endangerment.



Please be most concerned with getting back home without

incident.

Pissing off a driver while on a bike is like bringing a knife to

a gun

fight...your gonna loose no matter if you are right or wrong.



Ted Gresh



.David.Auker. wrote:

>

> > You might want to write an anonymous letter, describe the

incident, tell

> > him he could have hurt someone, tell him he set a poor

example for his

> > children, tell him the incident has been reported to the

authorities,

> > tell him you have witnesses, and tell him you believe the

authorities

> > may be contacting him. This will make him think and worry

about his own

> > self interest. No one wants to think that they may be

visited by the

> > police carrying out a criminal investigation conce! rning

Mark J. Ginsberg

Attorney At Law

1001 SW 5th Ave., Ste. 1900

Portland, OR 97204

(503) 542-3000

Fax (503) 295-3720

markjgi-@yahoo.com

www.bikesafetylaw.com



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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=197334319-27092004><FONT face=Arial

color=#0000ff size=2>I agree.  Just being thankful is not sufficient. This

type of behavior by idiots should be deterred by filing a

compliant.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>

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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> markjgi-@yahoo.com

[mailto:markjgi-@yahoo.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 27, 2004

11:21 AM<BR><B>To:</B> tgr-@parametrix.com; ob-@topica.com<BR><B>Subject:</B>

RE: [OBRA Chat] [SPAM] - Road rage. What to do...? - Email found in

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<DIV>I do not disagree about safety being paramount, but we must follow up with

enforcement agencies. If the first officer tells you, "no contact, no crime" go

up the food chain.</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV>When I was 22 or so a guy did something similar to me. He was finally cited

and went to trial, he was convicted. Now the penalty was minor, but it adds up.

The next time he is an idiot the penalty gets larger.</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV>Mark Ginsberg<BR><BR><B><I>tgr-@parametrix.com</I></B> wrote:</DIV>

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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">You

are fortunate to have remained upright and have had nothing more <BR>thrown at

you than a finger.<BR><BR>Next time a car is on your rear wheel, I would be

less concerned with <BR>your rights and more concerned with letting the person

get by. I agree <BR>you have every right to be in that lane, but if someone in

a car does <BR>not want you there...move. No one likes a bully but I know I

have <BR>learned that no matter where I am, if I can avoid a conflict with a

<BR>bully, I will. I find it FAR easier to step aside and give way than to

<BR>proclaim my rights from the hole in the wall my head just got put

<BR>into.... or from the ditch I just landed in with a broken head or broken

<BR>bike.<BR><BR>Send him a post card?? Based on your description of his

behavior I doubt <BR>this guy is going to lose too much sleep over that. These

are not the <BR>people we are going to win o! ver in the great biker PR

campaign and law <BR>enforcement, though obligated, has shown little interest

in reacting to <BR>this type of reckless endangerment. <BR><BR>Please be most

concerned with getting back home without incident. <BR>Pissing off a driver

while on a bike is like bringing a knife to a gun <BR>fight...your gonna loose

no matter if you are right or wrong. <BR><BR>Ted Gresh<BR><BR>.David.Auker.

wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > You might want to write an anonymous letter,

describe the incident, tell<BR>> > him he could have hurt someone, tell

him he set a poor example for his<BR>> > children, tell him the incident

has been reported to the authorities,<BR>> > tell him you have

witnesses, and tell him you believe the authorities<BR>> > may be

contacting him. This will make him think and worry about his own<BR>> >

self interest. No one wants to think that they may be visited by the<BR>>

> police carrying out a criminal investigation conce! rning

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<ADDRESS>Mark J. Ginsberg</ADDRESS>

<ADDRESS>Attorney At Law</ADDRESS>

<ADDRESS>1001 SW 5th Ave., Ste. 1900</ADDRESS>

<ADDRESS>Portland, OR 97204</ADDRESS>

<ADDRESS>(503) 542-3000</ADDRESS>

<ADDRESS>Fax (503) 295-3720 </ADDRESS>

<ADDRESS><A

href="mailto:markjgi-@yahoo.com">markjgi-@yahoo.com</A></ADDRESS>

<ADDRESS><A href="http://www.bikesafetylaw.com">www.bikesafetylaw.com</A>

</ADDRESS></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>

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