Cyclocross Officials and Results

Matthew Wolpert

2004-10-05



Yes, thanks to the officials! I did a Seattle based race this year and

we didn't get results for those of us in the pack. It's really nice to

see where you are even when it isn't at the front.



Thank you officials!



Matthew





On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 20:41:53 -0700, B Witty <bri-@halffastvelo.com> wrote:

 





I just wanted to post a GIGANTIC thank you to the officials (led by Terri

Camp) for scoring the cyclocross crusade races.







As a promoter, it is our job to get people to the races to have a great time

battling amongst their friends and other like-minded individuals. We have

very little to do with officiating and scoring these races, and it is an

absolutely huge endeavor with the number of athletes we are getting at the

races.







The easier way to score these races would be to simply record the top 18

places in every category (the ones who get points) and leave it at that.

However, our officials are scoring EVERY SINGLE athlete that participates.

This is where I think they all need to receive a pat on the back.







Thanks and keep up the great work,



Brian Witty



www.crosscrusade.com



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I agree. Also, I think that fact partially accounts for the large

turnout. In road racing, I have seen many people get dropped and ride

hard to finish, only ask the officials what their place was, and be

disappointed that their finish was not recorded. Often you do not see

those people returning. In running and tri events everyone gets

recorded, and failure to do so often discourages those racers who are

not able to stay with the pack.    I am not suggesting that we further

burden officials in road racing, as it is difficult enough to determine

the top 15, particularly if there is more than one field on the course.

I am only pointing out that it does seem to be a factor with respect to

participation.



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From: B Witty [mailto:bri-@halffastvelo.com]

Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 8:42 PM

To: ob-@topica.com; obra-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Cyclocross Officials and Results





I just wanted to post a GIGANTIC thank you to the officials (led by

Terri Camp) for scoring the cyclocross crusade races.



As a promoter, it is our job to get people to the races to have a great

time battling amongst their friends and other like-minded individuals.

We have very little to do with officiating and scoring these races, and

it is an absolutely huge endeavor with the number of athletes we are

getting at the races.



The easier way to score these races would be to simply record the top 18

places in every category (the ones who get points) and leave it at that.

However, our officials are scoring EVERY SINGLE athlete that

participates. This is where I think they all need to receive a pat on

the back.





Thanks and keep up the great work,

Brian Witty

www.crosscrusade.com <http://www.crosscrusade.com/>



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color=#0000ff size=2>I agree. Also, I think that fact partially accounts for the

large turnout.  In road racing, I have seen many people get dropped

and ride hard to finish, only ask the officials what their place was, and

be disappointed that their finish was not recorded.  Often you do not see

those people returning.  In running and tri events everyone gets recorded,

and failure to do so often discourages those racers who are not able to stay

with the pack.    I am not suggesting that we further burden

officials in road racing, as it is difficult enough to determine the top 15,

particularly if there is more than one field on the course.  I am only

pointing out that it does seem to be a factor with respect to

participation.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>

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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> B Witty [mailto:bri-@halffastvelo.com]

<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 04, 2004 8:42 PM<BR><B>To:</B> ob-@topica.com;

obra-@topica.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [OBRA Chat] Cyclocross Officials and

Results<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>

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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN

style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I just wanted to post a GIGANTIC

thank you to the officials (led by </SPAN></FONT><st1:PersonName

style="BACKGROUND-POSITION: left bottom; BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(res://ietag.dll/#34/#1001); BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat-x"><FONT

face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Terri

Camp</SPAN></FONT></st1:PersonName><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN

style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">) for scoring the <SPAN

class=SpellE>cyclocross</SPAN> crusade races.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>

<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN

style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>

<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN

style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As a promoter, it is our job to get

people to the races to have a great time battling amongst their friends and

other like-minded individuals. <SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>We

have very little to do with officiating and scoring these races, and it is an

absolutely huge endeavor with the number of athletes we are getting at the

races.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>

<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN

style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>

<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN

style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The easier way to score these races

would be to simply record the top 18 places in every category (the ones who get

points) and leave it at that. <SPAN

style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>However, our officials are scoring EVERY

SINGLE athlete that participates.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> 

</SPAN>This is where I think they all need to receive a pat on the back.<SPAN

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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN

style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Brian

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I just wanted to post a GIGANTIC thank you to the officials (led by

Terri Camp) for scoring the cyclocross crusade races.



As a promoter, it is our job to get people to the races to have a great

time battling amongst their friends and other like-minded individuals.

We have very little to do with officiating and scoring these races, and

it is an absolutely huge endeavor with the number of athletes we are

getting at the races.



The easier way to score these races would be to simply record the top 18

places in every category (the ones who get points) and leave it at that.

However, our officials are scoring EVERY SINGLE athlete that

participates. This is where I think they all need to receive a pat on

the back.





Thanks and keep up the great work,

Brian Witty

www.crosscrusade.com <http://www.crosscrusade.com/>





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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Terri Camp</span></font></st1:PersonName><font

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scoring the <span class=SpellE>cyclocross</span> crusade races.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>



<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;

font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>



<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;

font-family:Arial'>As a promoter, it is our job to get people to the races to

have a great time battling amongst their friends and other like-minded

individuals. <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>We have very little to

do with officiating and scoring these races, and it is an absolutely huge

endeavor with the number of athletes we are getting at the races.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>



<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;

font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>



<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;

font-family:Arial'>The easier way to score these races would be to simply

record the top 18 places in every category (the ones who get points) and leave

it at that. <span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>However, our officials

are scoring EVERY SINGLE athlete that participates.<span

style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>This is where I think they all need to receive

a pat on the back.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><br

style='mso-special-character:line-break'>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;

font-family:Arial'>Thanks and keep up the great work,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>



<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;

font-family:Arial'>Brian Witty<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>



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