New..Mt Bike racing

reynaldo trujillo

2004-10-11



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<P>I'm a "rookie" at Cat. C, and new to Oregon,..., my goal this season is to finish all races....</P>

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<P>the races are great dudes,....</P>

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<P>keep it up....!!</P>

<P>--Rey Jr. </P>

<P>Sonora Racing Team</P>

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<P>>From: Randy Dreiling <ragg-@yahoo.com> </P></DIV>

<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: ragg-@yahoo.com

<DIV></DIV>>To: brando-@member.aiche.org, 'obra' <ob-@topica.com>

<DIV></DIV>>Subject: [OBRA Chat] New..Mt Bike racing

<DIV></DIV>>Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:52:34 -0700 (PDT)

<DIV></DIV>>

<DIV></DIV>>Hello All

<DIV></DIV>>

<DIV></DIV>>Sorry for the delay I have been gone a week.

<DIV></DIV>>

<DIV></DIV>>My take as a promoter and racer.

<DIV></DIV>>

<DIV></DIV>>The Oregon Series had steady numbers...we had same or

<DIV></DIV>>more racers race to race as 2003. That keeps getting

<DIV></DIV>>over looked.

<DIV></DIV>>

<DIV></DIV>>Not sure who charged a $10 late fee, but most of our

<DIV></DIV>>races were $5 late fee.  This back fired at many

<DIV></DIV>>events as we had far less people pre-reg.  Pre-reg is

<DIV></DIV>>a HUGE help to the promoters!

<DIV></DIV>>

<DIV></DIV>>As Damian stated...we have far more fee's we have to

<DIV></DIV>>pay BLM, Forest Service, Private land owners. Timing

<DIV></DIV>>crews.

<DIV></DIV>>

<DIV></DIV>>WE TIME EVERYONE!!!!

<DIV></DIV>>

<DIV></DIV>>As far as classes go...can't tell you how many people

<DIV></DIV>>thanked me for the 50 plus class..yeah there may not

<DIV></DIV>>be a ton of them, but they have been loyal racers for

<DIV></DIV>>years and more and hit that class every year and some

<DIV></DIV>>have flat out said they only race now because they

<DIV></DIV>>have a 50 + class atleast for the men...on the womens

<DIV></DIV>>side there are VERY few women racers over 35.  In the

<DIV></DIV>>end sadly we need to cut some womens classes, but the

<DIV></DIV>>mens classes are fine.

<DIV></DIV>>

<DIV></DIV>>Cross draws from WAY more people... road, cross, tri,

<DIV></DIV>>track, mtn, adventure racers...To compare is crazy,

<DIV></DIV>>plus it is all right in Portland.

<DIV></DIV>>

<DIV></DIV>>Please contact me with questions about the Oregon

<DIV></DIV>>Series.

<DIV></DIV>>Thanks

<DIV></DIV>>Randy

<DIV></DIV>>--- Brandon Reed <brando-@member.aiche.org>

<DIV></DIV>>wrote:

<DIV></DIV>>

<DIV></DIV>> > In Oregon last year I participated in one MTB XC

<DIV></DIV>> > race (Firecracker), one

<DIV></DIV>> > Endurance Race (Creampuff), and the Eugene TT

<DIV></DIV>> > series, I also went to Tucson

<DIV></DIV>> > and did the 24hr race while I was there. This year I

<DIV></DIV>> > did the eugene TT

<DIV></DIV>> > series and the 12 hour event at Willamette pass. A

<DIV></DIV>> > big reason I don't do XC

<DIV></DIV>> > races is that there is only so much time to ride and

<DIV></DIV>> > paying $35 to $45 to

<DIV></DIV>> > race for 2 hours along with the other issues (Time

<DIV></DIV>> > and $$) associated with

<DIV></DIV>> > driving half way accross the state every time is

<DIV></DIV>> > just too much. Consider the

<DIV></DIV>> > time to do a race... for example to do a race in

<DIV></DIV>> > Bend would involve about 3

<DIV></DIV>> > hours of driving to get there, up to several hours

<DIV></DIV>> > of standing around after

<DIV></DIV>> > registering, a couple hours of racing, more standing

<DIV></DIV>> > around, then finally

<DIV></DIV>> > another 3 hour drive home. So the time balance is

<DIV></DIV>> > really bad (6-8 hours of

<DIV></DIV>> > not racing for 2 hours of racing). It cost roughly

<DIV></DIV>> > the same amount to do the

<DIV></DIV>> > 12hour as it would to do a single XC race, and I got

<DIV></DIV>> > in 3x as much racing (2

<DIV></DIV>> > person team).

<DIV></DIV>> >

<DIV></DIV>> >  Cyclocross has a huge advantage by simply being

<DIV></DIV>> > close to population centers

<DIV></DIV>> > (short drive) instead of in far-flung locations. I

<DIV></DIV>> > feel that if there were

<DIV></DIV>> > "local" races that were lower pressure (and lower

<DIV></DIV>> > cost) there would be more

<DIV></DIV>> > interest in MTB racing.  In other parts of the

<DIV></DIV>> > country the "XXXday night"

<DIV></DIV>> > race series works well. The course is well known,

<DIV></DIV>> > close to a population

<DIV></DIV>> > center, and relatively cheap to participate. Often

<DIV></DIV>> > these are pretty short

<DIV></DIV>> > courses which is less intimidating to the beginning

<DIV></DIV>> > racers. By the time you

<DIV></DIV>> > add up the costs of doing an XC event a beginning

<DIV></DIV>> > racer has a hard time

<DIV></DIV>> > justifying the cost, and to do a whole series can

<DIV></DIV>> > cost as much as a new

<DIV></DIV>> > bike.

<DIV></DIV>> >

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Randy Dreiling

2004-10-11



Hello All



Sorry for the delay I have been gone a week.



My take as a promoter and racer.



The Oregon Series had steady numbers...we had same or

more racers race to race as 2003. That keeps getting

over looked.



Not sure who charged a $10 late fee, but most of our

races were $5 late fee. This back fired at many

events as we had far less people pre-reg. Pre-reg is

a HUGE help to the promoters!



As Damian stated...we have far more fee's we have to

pay BLM, Forest Service, Private land owners. Timing

crews.



WE TIME EVERYONE!!!!



As far as classes go...can't tell you how many people

thanked me for the 50 plus class..yeah there may not

be a ton of them, but they have been loyal racers for

years and more and hit that class every year and some

have flat out said they only race now because they

have a 50 + class atleast for the men...on the womens

side there are VERY few women racers over 35. In the

end sadly we need to cut some womens classes, but the

mens classes are fine.



Cross draws from WAY more people... road, cross, tri,

track, mtn, adventure racers...To compare is crazy,

plus it is all right in Portland.



Please contact me with questions about the Oregon

Series.

Thanks

Randy

--- Brandon Reed <brando-@member.aiche.org>

wrote:



 In Oregon last year I participated in one MTB XC

race (Firecracker), one

Endurance Race (Creampuff), and the Eugene TT

series, I also went to Tucson

and did the 24hr race while I was there. This year I

did the eugene TT

series and the 12 hour event at Willamette pass. A

big reason I don't do XC

races is that there is only so much time to ride and

paying $35 to $45 to

race for 2 hours along with the other issues (Time

and $$) associated with

driving half way accross the state every time is

just too much. Consider the

time to do a race... for example to do a race in

Bend would involve about 3

hours of driving to get there, up to several hours

of standing around after

registering, a couple hours of racing, more standing

around, then finally

another 3 hour drive home. So the time balance is

really bad (6-8 hours of

not racing for 2 hours of racing). It cost roughly

the same amount to do the

12hour as it would to do a single XC race, and I got

in 3x as much racing (2

person team).



Cyclocross has a huge advantage by simply being

close to population centers

(short drive) instead of in far-flung locations. I

feel that if there were

"local" races that were lower pressure (and lower

cost) there would be more

interest in MTB racing. In other parts of the

country the "XXXday night"

race series works well. The course is well known,

close to a population

center, and relatively cheap to participate. Often

these are pretty short

courses which is less intimidating to the beginning

racers. By the time you

add up the costs of doing an XC event a beginning

racer has a hard time

justifying the cost, and to do a whole series can

cost as much as a new

bike.



To respond to the whole group send to

ob-@topica.com.

To respond to the list manager send to

cmur-@obra.org

To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com









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