Michael wrote:
For those of you who do not care to slog through Melville's rather dense
prose, there was a film made of Billy Budd in 1962 with Terence Stamp
starring as Budd. It was directed by Peter Ustinov and is a very good
film.
Neither book nor film are terribly subtle.
Looks like a good movie, for more info:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055796/
Jewelry is defined as decorative. A diamond-encrusted watch is still a
watch because it has a useful function. A religious device, be it a cross,
a mogen david, whatever, declares the wearer's personal religious belief. A
strong argument can be made for Lance's "yellow rubber band" being a
declaration of the wearer's belief in the affirmation of life, and therefore
covered by the constitution.
No arguments will be heard about your diamond-encrusted Rolex being a
statement. The law does not deal in semiotics.
For those of you who do not care to slog through Melville's rather dense
prose, there was a film made of Billy Budd in 1962 with Terence Stamp
starring as Budd. It was directed by Peter Ustinov and is a very good film.
Neither book nor film are terribly subtle.
=======
"The law is not based upon the syllogism, but rather on experience."
-- Oliver Wendell Holmes, "Lectures At Harvard," 1905
=======
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Murphy" <murphy_-@hotmail.com>
What about freedom of expression? A kid can't wear a gold chain, but if
you
put a cross on it, it is OK? It is a piece of jewelry.
In silicon fabs, it is common practice to force the removal of ANY and ALL jewelery. Whether it be rings, bracelets, religious medallions. It is not considered a 1st Amendment issue as much as it is a sterile/electrical safety issue.
Joe
Snjr <sn-@charter.net> wrote :
Pete wrote:
So the manner in which you dress is not a form of expression unless it
has
a
corporate logo or a religous symbol on it?
Pursuant to case law I have read, that is correct. "Freedom of
expression"
is derived from the first amendment; which as we know is basically
"free
speech". Therefore, for jewelry to be covered under the first amendment,
it
must contain some type of message. "Expression" is not legally
defined
simply as anything you do or say. Likewise "free speech" also does
not mean
you can say anything you like with impunity.
I am not sorry if my statement offended anyones religious beliefs, as I
am
expressing mine.
I don't think anyone is offended by you expressing your religious beliefs,
what I said was it appears you were insensitive to the beliefs of others by
stating religious symbols are simply "jewelry."
And i will stop any further responses to this thread.
Why? I think this type of dialog is good!
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Mark wrote:
Sooo...then those wearing saint "symbols" are gaining an unfair sporting
advantage over those who don't wear them?
It's certainly possible and is one of the few decent arguements against
allowing religious symbols in competition. One could argue that they
provide an unfair advantage to those "believers" and as a result should be
prohibited during competition.
For example; I am in pretty good with God. In fact, at the Texas State Crit
Championships one year, it was raining and very dangerous. I prayed aloud
at the start line for the weather to clear and it did! As a result, I was
called "rainman" by my peers and was often called upon to pray before the
start of races for good weather. The ironic thing about this is each time I
prayed for good weather WE DID GET GOOD WEATHER. This occurred over a dozen
times! I've never been struck by lightning or anything like that... so I
can't explain this phenomenon.
Further, when I moved back to Oregon I abandoned my practice of praying
before races when the weather looked poor and as a result I have been rained
on during races on several occasions!
BTW, I did wear a religious symbol during races, however, it has not kept me
from eating too many Twinkies so I don't race anymore.
Pete wrote:
So the manner in which you dress is not a form of expression unless it has
a
corporate logo or a religous symbol on it?
Pursuant to case law I have read, that is correct. "Freedom of expression"
is derived from the first amendment; which as we know is basically "free
speech". Therefore, for jewelry to be covered under the first amendment, it
must contain some type of message. "Expression" is not legally defined
simply as anything you do or say. Likewise "free speech" also does not mean
you can say anything you like with impunity.
I am not sorry if my statement offended anyones religious beliefs, as I am
expressing mine.
I don't think anyone is offended by you expressing your religious beliefs,
what I said was it appears you were insensitive to the beliefs of others by
stating religious symbols are simply "jewelry."
And i will stop any further responses to this thread.
Why? I think this type of dialog is good!
Sooo...then those wearing saint "symbols" are gaining an unfair sporting
advantage over those who don't wear them?
snjr wrote:
Pete wrote <What about freedom of expression? A kid can't wear a gold
chain,
but if you
put a cross on it, it is OK? It is a piece of jewelry.>
"Freedom of expression" is derived from the same amendment (first). For
jewelry to be considered expression it must include some type of
communication or statement.
I am unaware of any jewelry other than perhaps religious, ethnic, or
that
cheesy promotional jewelry (you know corporate logo stuff) that rises to
this test.
A cross has more meaning to many than just a piece of jewelry. I find
it
rather insensitive that Pete would not acknowledge that fact. I know of
many Catholics who would rather cut off a finger than remove their
"saint"
symbols. To them, those symbols protect them and give them reassurance
in
an otherwise hostile world.
Mark Wexler
M&M Business Services
503.358.8308
So the manner in which you dress is not a form of expression unless it has a
corporate logo or a religous symbol on it?
I am not sorry if my statement offended anyones religious beliefs, as I am
expressing mine.
And i will stop any further responses to this thread.
From: "snjr" <sn-@charter.net>
To: <murphy_-@hotmail.com>, <ob-@topica.com>
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:17:42 -0700
Pete wrote <What about freedom of expression? A kid can't wear a gold
chain,
but if you
put a cross on it, it is OK? It is a piece of jewelry.>
"Freedom of expression" is derived from the same amendment (first). For
jewelry to be considered expression it must include some type of
communication or statement.
I am unaware of any jewelry other than perhaps religious, ethnic, or that
cheesy promotional jewelry (you know corporate logo stuff) that rises to
this test.
A cross has more meaning to many than just a piece of jewelry. I find it
rather insensitive that Pete would not acknowledge that fact. I know of
many Catholics who would rather cut off a finger than remove their "saint"
symbols. To them, those symbols protect them and give them reassurance in
an otherwise hostile world.
Pete wrote <What about freedom of expression? A kid can't wear a gold chain,
but if you
put a cross on it, it is OK? It is a piece of jewelry.>
"Freedom of expression" is derived from the same amendment (first). For
jewelry to be considered expression it must include some type of
communication or statement.
I am unaware of any jewelry other than perhaps religious, ethnic, or that
cheesy promotional jewelry (you know corporate logo stuff) that rises to
this test.
A cross has more meaning to many than just a piece of jewelry. I find it
rather insensitive that Pete would not acknowledge that fact. I know of
many Catholics who would rather cut off a finger than remove their "saint"
symbols. To them, those symbols protect them and give them reassurance in
an otherwise hostile world.
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you can have free expression, no problem.
The issue here was the rules of competition.
Rule said no jewelry. Kids knew the rule in advance it seems, and made a choice.
Jerk-ish to inforce, yes, but following the rules, definately.
This past weekend there was an accidental use of the PIT in the elite mens cycloscross race. It was not on purpose, but it is the responsibilty of the competitor to know the rules. Rider was relegated one place.
This past summer, I had a long conversation with a younger bike racer who had many, many stories about being thrown out of races. he always wanted to blame the officials, but when we got into the details it was clear he didn't know the rules, when I suggested that he could read the rules to avoid these problems, he still wanted to blame the officials.
Who among us rememebrs when wearing anything but white sox was a hanging offense in bike racing? stupid rule yes, rules though yes.
For those who do not understand this go read Billy Budd, by Herman Melville.
Mark Ginsberg
Peter Murphy <murphy_-@hotmail.com> wrote:
What about freedom of expression? A kid can't wear a gold chain, but if you
put a cross on it, it is OK? It is a piece of jewelry.
From: snjr
Reply-To: sn-@charter.net
To: murphy_-@hotmail.com, ob-@topica.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:04:55 -0700
I think the wear of religious jewelry is considered "freedom of religion"
pursuant to the constitution, you know that pesky first amendment.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Murphy"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
That's great..I'm glad it was overturned.
But in reading the story, if the kids tied a cross or a jewish star to the
Livestrong bands, it would be allowed because they are allowed to wear
religious jewelry? That's ridiculous. No jewelry, should mean no jewelry,
except for the medical bracelets (I'm not a total heartless heathen).
my thoughts
Pete Murphy
"Reach for the sky cuz tomorrow may never come" - Social Distortion
From: "Godfrey, Norrene"
Reply-To: Norrene.-@nike.com
To: bike-@earthlink.net, Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn
, Justin Klahn
CC: ob-@topica.com, obra-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 07:18:35 -0700
I just recieved the following message from the Tiffiani at the LAF -
From: Coach-@aol.com [mailto:Coach-@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 4:01 PM
To: Michelle Milford
Subject: Re: Response: yellow bands
thank you!
As it turns out- the support of the kids was overwhelming in the
newpapers
and on TV and the administrators overturned the disqualifications this
afternoon. All is well.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Tucker [mailto:bike-@earthlink.net]
Sent: Mon 10/11/2004 10:41 PM
To: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn; Justin Klahn
Cc: ob-@topica.com; obra-@topica.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
HS runners DQ'd for 'LiveStrong' wrist bands
"LiveStrong" doesn't add up to "run fast," at least for one high school
official in Virginia.
More than two dozen high school track athletes were disqualified from
an Oct. 6 event in Virginia Beach, Va., after an administrator ruled
Lance Armstrong's popular "LiveStrong" wristbands amounted to jewelry,
banned under district rules.
Some 26 athletes were wearing the yellow plastic bans and were
subsequently disqualified from the track event, according to a report
in the The Virginia Pilot newspaper.
"It's the stupidest rule I've ever heard," said Lanny Doan, one of the
high school coaches. "We're talking about a rubber band. It's not going
to harm anyone."
Some 12 million of the wrist bands have been sold nationwide to raise
money for the Lance Armstrong Foundation. The wrist bands have become a
cultural phenomenon, with big-time sports stars and even presidential
candidates sporting the plastic bands.
The wrist bands, however, fell afoul with school officials in Virginia
who have banned all except religious or medical jewelry from high
school track events. The Virginia Pilot reported high officials
notified coaches by e-mailed prior to Wednesday's with reminders that
the rule would be enforced.
Several athletes won their heats but were later disqualified after
wearing the wrist bands. One of the school's girl's squad lost out on
the team competition because of the ruling.
"Basically, we lost because of a cancer-support bracelet," Ocean Lakes
coach Mike Nestor told the newspaper. "This is a friendly sport. I'd
rather be told kids had to take them off before they run than told
'gotcha' afterward."
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<DIV>you can have free expression, no problem. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The issue here was the rules of competition.</DIV>
<DIV>Rule said no jewelry. Kids knew the rule in advance it seems, and made a choice.</DIV>
<DIV>Jerk-ish to inforce, yes, but following the rules, definately.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>This past weekend there was an accidental use of the PIT in the elite mens cycloscross race. It was not on purpose, but it is the responsibilty of the competitor to know the rules. Rider was relegated one place.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>This past summer, I had a long conversation with a younger bike racer who had many, many stories about being thrown out of races. he always wanted to blame the officials, but when we got into the details it was clear he didn't know the rules, when I suggested that he could read the rules to avoid these problems, he still wanted to blame the officials.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Who among us rememebrs when wearing anything but white sox was a hanging offense in bike racing? stupid rule yes, rules though yes.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>For those who do not understand this go read Billy Budd, by Herman Melville.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Mark Ginsberg<BR><BR><B><I>Peter Murphy <murphy_-@hotmail.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">What about freedom of expression? A kid can't wear a gold chain, but if you <BR>put a cross on it, it is OK? It is a piece of jewelry.<BR><BR><BR>>From: snjr <SN-@CHARTER.NET><BR>>Reply-To: sn-@charter.net<BR>>To: murphy_-@hotmail.com, ob-@topica.com<BR>>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story<BR>>Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:04:55 -0700<BR>><BR>>I think the wear of religious jewelry is considered "freedom of religion"<BR>>pursuant to the constitution, you know that pesky first amendment.<BR>><BR>><BR>>----- Original Message -----<BR>>From: "Peter Murphy" <MURPHY_-@HOTMAIL.COM><BR>>To: <OB-@TOPICA.COM><BR>>Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 8:25 AM<BR>>Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story<BR>><BR>><BR>>That's great..I'm glad it was overturned.<BR>><BR>>But in reading the story, if the kids
tied a cross or a jewish star to the<BR>>Livestrong bands, it would be allowed because they are allowed to wear<BR>>religious jewelry? That's ridiculous. No jewelry, should mean no jewelry,<BR>>except for the medical bracelets (I'm not a total heartless heathen).<BR>><BR>>my thoughts<BR>>Pete Murphy<BR>><BR>>"Reach for the sky cuz tomorrow may never come" - Social Distortion<BR>><BR>> >From: "Godfrey, Norrene" <NORRENE.-@NIKE.COM><BR>> >Reply-To: Norrene.-@nike.com<BR>> >To: bike-@earthlink.net, Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn<BR>> ><CMUR-@OBRA.ORG>, Justin Klahn <CJKL-@COMCAST.NET><BR>> >CC: ob-@topica.com, obra-@topica.com<BR>> >Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story<BR>> >Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 07:18:35 -0700<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >I just recieved the following message from the Tiffiani at the LAF -<BR>> ><BR>> >From: Coach-@aol.com
[mailto:Coach-@aol.com]<BR>> >Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 4:01 PM<BR>> >To: Michelle Milford<BR>> >Subject: Re: Response: yellow bands<BR>> ><BR>> >thank you!<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >As it turns out- the support of the kids was overwhelming in the <BR>>newpapers<BR>> >and on TV and the administrators overturned the disqualifications this<BR>> >afternoon. All is well.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >Mike<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >-----Original Message-----<BR>> >From: Troy Tucker [mailto:bike-@earthlink.net]<BR>> >Sent: Mon 10/11/2004 10:41 PM<BR>> >To: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn; Justin Klahn<BR>> >Cc: ob-@topica.com; obra-@topica.com<BR>> >Subject: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >HS runners DQ'd for 'LiveStrong' wrist bands<BR>> >"LiveStrong" doesn't
add up to "run fast," at least for one high school<BR>> >official in Virginia.<BR>> ><BR>> >More than two dozen high school track athletes were disqualified from<BR>> >an Oct. 6 event in Virginia Beach, Va., after an administrator ruled<BR>> >Lance Armstrong's popular "LiveStrong" wristbands amounted to jewelry,<BR>> >banned under district rules.<BR>> ><BR>> >Some 26 athletes were wearing the yellow plastic bans and were<BR>> >subsequently disqualified from the track event, according to a report<BR>> >in the The Virginia Pilot newspaper.<BR>> ><BR>> >"It's the stupidest rule I've ever heard," said Lanny Doan, one of the<BR>> >high school coaches. "We're talking about a rubber band. It's not going<BR>> >to harm anyone."<BR>> ><BR>> >Some 12 million of the wrist bands have been sold nationwide to raise<BR>> >money for the Lance Armstrong Foundation. The wrist bands have become
a<BR>> >cultural phenomenon, with big-time sports stars and even presidential<BR>> >candidates sporting the plastic bands.<BR>> ><BR>> >The wrist bands, however, fell afoul with school officials in Virginia<BR>> >who have banned all except religious or medical jewelry from high<BR>> >school track events. The Virginia Pilot reported high officials<BR>> >notified coaches by e-mailed prior to Wednesday's with reminders that<BR>> >the rule would be enforced.<BR>> ><BR>> >Several athletes won their heats but were later disqualified after<BR>> >wearing the wrist bands. One of the school's girl's squad lost out on<BR>> >the team competition because of the ruling.<BR>> ><BR>> >"Basically, we lost because of a cancer-support bracelet," Ocean Lakes<BR>> >coach Mike Nestor told the newspaper. "This is a friendly sport. I'd<BR>> >rather be told kids had to take them off before they run than
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What about freedom of expression? A kid can't wear a gold chain, but if you
put a cross on it, it is OK? It is a piece of jewelry.
From: snjr <sn-@charter.net>
Reply-To: sn-@charter.net
To: murphy_-@hotmail.com, ob-@topica.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:04:55 -0700
I think the wear of religious jewelry is considered "freedom of religion"
pursuant to the constitution, you know that pesky first amendment.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Murphy" <murphy_-@hotmail.com>
To: <ob-@topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
That's great..I'm glad it was overturned.
But in reading the story, if the kids tied a cross or a jewish star to the
Livestrong bands, it would be allowed because they are allowed to wear
religious jewelry? That's ridiculous. No jewelry, should mean no jewelry,
except for the medical bracelets (I'm not a total heartless heathen).
my thoughts
Pete Murphy
"Reach for the sky cuz tomorrow may never come" - Social Distortion
From: "Godfrey, Norrene" <Norrene.-@nike.com>
Reply-To: Norrene.-@nike.com
To: bike-@earthlink.net, Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn
<cmur-@obra.org>, Justin Klahn <cjkl-@comcast.net>
CC: ob-@topica.com, obra-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 07:18:35 -0700
I just recieved the following message from the Tiffiani at the LAF -
From: Coach-@aol.com [mailto:Coach-@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 4:01 PM
To: Michelle Milford
Subject: Re: Response: yellow bands
thank you!
As it turns out- the support of the kids was overwhelming in the
newpapers
and on TV and the administrators overturned the disqualifications this
afternoon. All is well.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Tucker [mailto:bike-@earthlink.net]
Sent: Mon 10/11/2004 10:41 PM
To: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn; Justin Klahn
Cc: ob-@topica.com; obra-@topica.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
HS runners DQ'd for 'LiveStrong' wrist bands
"LiveStrong" doesn't add up to "run fast," at least for one high school
official in Virginia.
More than two dozen high school track athletes were disqualified from
an Oct. 6 event in Virginia Beach, Va., after an administrator ruled
Lance Armstrong's popular "LiveStrong" wristbands amounted to jewelry,
banned under district rules.
Some 26 athletes were wearing the yellow plastic bans and were
subsequently disqualified from the track event, according to a report
in the The Virginia Pilot newspaper.
"It's the stupidest rule I've ever heard," said Lanny Doan, one of the
high school coaches. "We're talking about a rubber band. It's not going
to harm anyone."
Some 12 million of the wrist bands have been sold nationwide to raise
money for the Lance Armstrong Foundation. The wrist bands have become a
cultural phenomenon, with big-time sports stars and even presidential
candidates sporting the plastic bands.
The wrist bands, however, fell afoul with school officials in Virginia
who have banned all except religious or medical jewelry from high
school track events. The Virginia Pilot reported high officials
notified coaches by e-mailed prior to Wednesday's with reminders that
the rule would be enforced.
Several athletes won their heats but were later disqualified after
wearing the wrist bands. One of the school's girl's squad lost out on
the team competition because of the ruling.
"Basically, we lost because of a cancer-support bracelet," Ocean Lakes
coach Mike Nestor told the newspaper. "This is a friendly sport. I'd
rather be told kids had to take them off before they run than told
'gotcha' afterward."
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith A. Prior" <toka-@ix.netcom.com>
To: <sn-@charter.net>; <murphy_-@hotmail.com>; <ob-@topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 9:13 AM
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
Oh no!
You again! :)
-K
-----Original Message-----
From: snjr [mailto:sn-@charter.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 9:05 AM
To: murphy_-@hotmail.com; ob-@topica.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
I think the wear of religious jewelry is considered "freedom of religion"
pursuant to the constitution, you know that pesky first amendment.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Murphy" <murphy_-@hotmail.com>
To: <ob-@topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
That's great..I'm glad it was overturned.
But in reading the story, if the kids tied a cross or a jewish star to the
Livestrong bands, it would be allowed because they are allowed to wear
religious jewelry? That's ridiculous. No jewelry, should mean no jewelry,
except for the medical bracelets (I'm not a total heartless heathen).
my thoughts
Pete Murphy
"Reach for the sky cuz tomorrow may never come" - Social Distortion
From: "Godfrey, Norrene" <Norrene.-@nike.com>
Reply-To: Norrene.-@nike.com
To: bike-@earthlink.net, Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn
<cmur-@obra.org>, Justin Klahn <cjkl-@comcast.net>
CC: ob-@topica.com, obra-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 07:18:35 -0700
I just recieved the following message from the Tiffiani at the LAF -
From: Coach-@aol.com [mailto:Coach-@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 4:01 PM
To: Michelle Milford
Subject: Re: Response: yellow bands
thank you!
As it turns out- the support of the kids was overwhelming in the
newpapers
and on TV and the administrators overturned the disqualifications this
afternoon. All is well.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Tucker [mailto:bike-@earthlink.net]
Sent: Mon 10/11/2004 10:41 PM
To: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn; Justin Klahn
Cc: ob-@topica.com; obra-@topica.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
HS runners DQ'd for 'LiveStrong' wrist bands
"LiveStrong" doesn't add up to "run fast," at least for one high school
official in Virginia.
More than two dozen high school track athletes were disqualified from
an Oct. 6 event in Virginia Beach, Va., after an administrator ruled
Lance Armstrong's popular "LiveStrong" wristbands amounted to jewelry,
banned under district rules.
Some 26 athletes were wearing the yellow plastic bans and were
subsequently disqualified from the track event, according to a report
in the The Virginia Pilot newspaper.
"It's the stupidest rule I've ever heard," said Lanny Doan, one of the
high school coaches. "We're talking about a rubber band. It's not going
to harm anyone."
Some 12 million of the wrist bands have been sold nationwide to raise
money for the Lance Armstrong Foundation. The wrist bands have become a
cultural phenomenon, with big-time sports stars and even presidential
candidates sporting the plastic bands.
The wrist bands, however, fell afoul with school officials in Virginia
who have banned all except religious or medical jewelry from high
school track events. The Virginia Pilot reported high officials
notified coaches by e-mailed prior to Wednesday's with reminders that
the rule would be enforced.
Several athletes won their heats but were later disqualified after
wearing the wrist bands. One of the school's girl's squad lost out on
the team competition because of the ruling.
"Basically, we lost because of a cancer-support bracelet," Ocean Lakes
coach Mike Nestor told the newspaper. "This is a friendly sport. I'd
rather be told kids had to take them off before they run than told
'gotcha' afterward."
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Oh no!
You again! :)
-K
-----Original Message-----
From: snjr [mailto:sn-@charter.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 9:05 AM
To: murphy_-@hotmail.com; ob-@topica.com
Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
I think the wear of religious jewelry is considered "freedom of religion"
pursuant to the constitution, you know that pesky first amendment.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Murphy" <murphy_-@hotmail.com>
To: <ob-@topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
That's great..I'm glad it was overturned.
But in reading the story, if the kids tied a cross or a jewish star to the
Livestrong bands, it would be allowed because they are allowed to wear
religious jewelry? That's ridiculous. No jewelry, should mean no jewelry,
except for the medical bracelets (I'm not a total heartless heathen).
my thoughts
Pete Murphy
"Reach for the sky cuz tomorrow may never come" - Social Distortion
From: "Godfrey, Norrene" <Norrene.-@nike.com>
Reply-To: Norrene.-@nike.com
To: bike-@earthlink.net, Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn
<cmur-@obra.org>, Justin Klahn <cjkl-@comcast.net>
CC: ob-@topica.com, obra-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 07:18:35 -0700
I just recieved the following message from the Tiffiani at the LAF -
From: Coach-@aol.com [mailto:Coach-@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 4:01 PM
To: Michelle Milford
Subject: Re: Response: yellow bands
thank you!
As it turns out- the support of the kids was overwhelming in the newpapers
and on TV and the administrators overturned the disqualifications this
afternoon. All is well.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Tucker [mailto:bike-@earthlink.net]
Sent: Mon 10/11/2004 10:41 PM
To: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn; Justin Klahn
Cc: ob-@topica.com; obra-@topica.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
HS runners DQ'd for 'LiveStrong' wrist bands
"LiveStrong" doesn't add up to "run fast," at least for one high school
official in Virginia.
More than two dozen high school track athletes were disqualified from
an Oct. 6 event in Virginia Beach, Va., after an administrator ruled
Lance Armstrong's popular "LiveStrong" wristbands amounted to jewelry,
banned under district rules.
Some 26 athletes were wearing the yellow plastic bans and were
subsequently disqualified from the track event, according to a report
in the The Virginia Pilot newspaper.
"It's the stupidest rule I've ever heard," said Lanny Doan, one of the
high school coaches. "We're talking about a rubber band. It's not going
to harm anyone."
Some 12 million of the wrist bands have been sold nationwide to raise
money for the Lance Armstrong Foundation. The wrist bands have become a
cultural phenomenon, with big-time sports stars and even presidential
candidates sporting the plastic bands.
The wrist bands, however, fell afoul with school officials in Virginia
who have banned all except religious or medical jewelry from high
school track events. The Virginia Pilot reported high officials
notified coaches by e-mailed prior to Wednesday's with reminders that
the rule would be enforced.
Several athletes won their heats but were later disqualified after
wearing the wrist bands. One of the school's girl's squad lost out on
the team competition because of the ruling.
"Basically, we lost because of a cancer-support bracelet," Ocean Lakes
coach Mike Nestor told the newspaper. "This is a friendly sport. I'd
rather be told kids had to take them off before they run than told
'gotcha' afterward."
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I think the wear of religious jewelry is considered "freedom of religion"
pursuant to the constitution, you know that pesky first amendment.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Murphy" <murphy_-@hotmail.com>
To: <ob-@topica.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
That's great..I'm glad it was overturned.
But in reading the story, if the kids tied a cross or a jewish star to the
Livestrong bands, it would be allowed because they are allowed to wear
religious jewelry? That's ridiculous. No jewelry, should mean no jewelry,
except for the medical bracelets (I'm not a total heartless heathen).
my thoughts
Pete Murphy
"Reach for the sky cuz tomorrow may never come" - Social Distortion
From: "Godfrey, Norrene" <Norrene.-@nike.com>
Reply-To: Norrene.-@nike.com
To: bike-@earthlink.net, Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn
<cmur-@obra.org>, Justin Klahn <cjkl-@comcast.net>
CC: ob-@topica.com, obra-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 07:18:35 -0700
I just recieved the following message from the Tiffiani at the LAF -
From: Coach-@aol.com [mailto:Coach-@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 4:01 PM
To: Michelle Milford
Subject: Re: Response: yellow bands
thank you!
As it turns out- the support of the kids was overwhelming in the newpapers
and on TV and the administrators overturned the disqualifications this
afternoon. All is well.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Tucker [mailto:bike-@earthlink.net]
Sent: Mon 10/11/2004 10:41 PM
To: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn; Justin Klahn
Cc: ob-@topica.com; obra-@topica.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
HS runners DQ'd for 'LiveStrong' wrist bands
"LiveStrong" doesn't add up to "run fast," at least for one high school
official in Virginia.
More than two dozen high school track athletes were disqualified from
an Oct. 6 event in Virginia Beach, Va., after an administrator ruled
Lance Armstrong's popular "LiveStrong" wristbands amounted to jewelry,
banned under district rules.
Some 26 athletes were wearing the yellow plastic bans and were
subsequently disqualified from the track event, according to a report
in the The Virginia Pilot newspaper.
"It's the stupidest rule I've ever heard," said Lanny Doan, one of the
high school coaches. "We're talking about a rubber band. It's not going
to harm anyone."
Some 12 million of the wrist bands have been sold nationwide to raise
money for the Lance Armstrong Foundation. The wrist bands have become a
cultural phenomenon, with big-time sports stars and even presidential
candidates sporting the plastic bands.
The wrist bands, however, fell afoul with school officials in Virginia
who have banned all except religious or medical jewelry from high
school track events. The Virginia Pilot reported high officials
notified coaches by e-mailed prior to Wednesday's with reminders that
the rule would be enforced.
Several athletes won their heats but were later disqualified after
wearing the wrist bands. One of the school's girl's squad lost out on
the team competition because of the ruling.
"Basically, we lost because of a cancer-support bracelet," Ocean Lakes
coach Mike Nestor told the newspaper. "This is a friendly sport. I'd
rather be told kids had to take them off before they run than told
'gotcha' afterward."
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That's great..I'm glad it was overturned.
But in reading the story, if the kids tied a cross or a jewish star to the
Livestrong bands, it would be allowed because they are allowed to wear
religious jewelry? That's ridiculous. No jewelry, should mean no jewelry,
except for the medical bracelets (I'm not a total heartless heathen).
my thoughts
Pete Murphy
"Reach for the sky cuz tomorrow may never come" - Social Distortion
From: "Godfrey, Norrene" <Norrene.-@nike.com>
Reply-To: Norrene.-@nike.com
To: bike-@earthlink.net, Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn
<cmur-@obra.org>, Justin Klahn <cjkl-@comcast.net>
CC: ob-@topica.com, obra-@topica.com
Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 07:18:35 -0700
I just recieved the following message from the Tiffiani at the LAF -
From: Coach-@aol.com [mailto:Coach-@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 4:01 PM
To: Michelle Milford
Subject: Re: Response: yellow bands
thank you!
As it turns out- the support of the kids was overwhelming in the newpapers
and on TV and the administrators overturned the disqualifications this
afternoon.? All is well.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Tucker [mailto:bike-@earthlink.net]
Sent: Mon 10/11/2004 10:41 PM
To: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn; Justin Klahn
Cc: ob-@topica.com; obra-@topica.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
HS runners DQ'd for ?LiveStrong' wrist bands
"LiveStrong" doesn't add up to "run fast," at least for one high school
official in Virginia.
More than two dozen high school track athletes were disqualified from
an Oct. 6 event in Virginia Beach, Va., after an administrator ruled
Lance Armstrong's popular "LiveStrong" wristbands amounted to jewelry,
banned under district rules.
Some 26 athletes were wearing the yellow plastic bans and were
subsequently disqualified from the track event, according to a report
in the The Virginia Pilot newspaper.
"It's the stupidest rule I've ever heard," said Lanny Doan, one of the
high school coaches. "We're talking about a rubber band. It's not going
to harm anyone."
Some 12 million of the wrist bands have been sold nationwide to raise
money for the Lance Armstrong Foundation. The wrist bands have become a
cultural phenomenon, with big-time sports stars and even presidential
candidates sporting the plastic bands.
The wrist bands, however, fell afoul with school officials in Virginia
who have banned all except religious or medical jewelry from high
school track events. The Virginia Pilot reported high officials
notified coaches by e-mailed prior to Wednesday's with reminders that
the rule would be enforced.
Several athletes won their heats but were later disqualified after
wearing the wrist bands. One of the school's girl's squad lost out on
the team competition because of the ruling.
"Basically, we lost because of a cancer-support bracelet," Ocean Lakes
coach Mike Nestor told the newspaper. "This is a friendly sport. I'd
rather be told kids had to take them off before they run than told
?gotcha' afterward."
To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.
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I just recieved the following message from the Tiffiani at the LAF -
From: Coach-@aol.com [mailto:Coach-@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 4:01 PM
To: Michelle Milford
Subject: Re: Response: yellow bands
thank you!
As it turns out- the support of the kids was overwhelming in the newpapers and on TV and the administrators overturned the disqualifications this afternoon.? All is well.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Troy Tucker [mailto:bike-@earthlink.net]
Sent: Mon 10/11/2004 10:41 PM
To: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn; Justin Klahn
Cc: ob-@topica.com; obra-@topica.com
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
HS runners DQ'd for ?LiveStrong' wrist bands
"LiveStrong" doesn't add up to "run fast," at least for one high school
official in Virginia.
More than two dozen high school track athletes were disqualified from
an Oct. 6 event in Virginia Beach, Va., after an administrator ruled
Lance Armstrong's popular "LiveStrong" wristbands amounted to jewelry,
banned under district rules.
Some 26 athletes were wearing the yellow plastic bans and were
subsequently disqualified from the track event, according to a report
in the The Virginia Pilot newspaper.
"It's the stupidest rule I've ever heard," said Lanny Doan, one of the
high school coaches. "We're talking about a rubber band. It's not going
to harm anyone."
Some 12 million of the wrist bands have been sold nationwide to raise
money for the Lance Armstrong Foundation. The wrist bands have become a
cultural phenomenon, with big-time sports stars and even presidential
candidates sporting the plastic bands.
The wrist bands, however, fell afoul with school officials in Virginia
who have banned all except religious or medical jewelry from high
school track events. The Virginia Pilot reported high officials
notified coaches by e-mailed prior to Wednesday's with reminders that
the rule would be enforced.
Several athletes won their heats but were later disqualified after
wearing the wrist bands. One of the school's girl's squad lost out on
the team competition because of the ruling.
"Basically, we lost because of a cancer-support bracelet," Ocean Lakes
coach Mike Nestor told the newspaper. "This is a friendly sport. I'd
rather be told kids had to take them off before they run than told
?gotcha' afterward."
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Another case of rules being bigger than brains.
----- Original Message -----
From: Troy Tucker
To: Candi Murray/Oregon Bicycle Racing Assn ; Justin Klahn
Cc: ob-@topica.com ; obra-@topica.com
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 10:41 PM
Subject: [OBRA Chat] Live strong Velonews story
HS runners DQ'd for ?LiveStrong' wrist bands
"LiveStrong" doesn't add up to "run fast," at least for one high school official in Virginia.
More than two dozen high school track athletes were disqualified from an Oct. 6 event in Virginia Beach, Va., after an administrator ruled Lance Armstrong's popular "LiveStrong" wristbands amounted to jewelry, banned under district rules.
Some 26 athletes were wearing the yellow plastic bans and were subsequently disqualified from the track event, according to a report in the The Virginia Pilot newspaper.
"It's the stupidest rule I've ever heard," said Lanny Doan, one of the high school coaches. "We're talking about a rubber band. It's not going to harm anyone."
Some 12 million of the wrist bands have been sold nationwide to raise money for the Lance Armstrong Foundation. The wrist bands have become a cultural phenomenon, with big-time sports stars and even presidential candidates sporting the plastic bands.
The wrist bands, however, fell afoul with school officials in Virginia who have banned all except religious or medical jewelry from high school track events. The Virginia Pilot reported high officials notified coaches by e-mailed prior to Wednesday's with reminders that the rule would be enforced.
Several athletes won their heats but were later disqualified after wearing the wrist bands. One of the school's girl's squad lost out on the team competition because of the ruling.
"Basically, we lost because of a cancer-support bracelet," Ocean Lakes coach Mike Nestor told the newspaper. "This is a friendly sport. I'd rather be told kids had to take them off before they run than told ?gotcha' afterward."
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disqualified from an Oct. 6 event in Virginia Beach, Va., after an
administrator ruled Lance Armstrong's popular "LiveStrong" wristbands amounted
to jewelry, banned under district rules. <BR><BR>Some 26 athletes were wearing
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Virginia Pilot <?/x-tad-bigger></I><?x-tad-bigger>newspaper. <BR><BR>"It's the
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coaches. "We're talking about a rubber band. It's not going to harm anyone."
<BR><BR>Some 12 million of the wrist bands have been sold nationwide to raise
money for the Lance Armstrong Foundation. The wrist bands have become a
cultural phenomenon, with big-time sports stars and even presidential
candidates sporting the plastic bands. <BR><BR>The wrist bands, however, fell
afoul with school officials in Virginia who have banned all except religious
or medical jewelry from high school track events. <?/x-tad-bigger><I><?x-tad-bigger>The Virginia Pilot <?/x-tad-bigger></I><?x-tad-bigger>reported high officials notified coaches by
e-mailed prior to Wednesday's with reminders that the rule would be enforced.
<BR><BR>Several athletes won their heats but were later disqualified after
wearing the wrist bands. One of the school's girl's squad lost out on the team
competition because of the ruling. <BR><BR>"Basically, we lost because of a
cancer-support bracelet," Ocean Lakes coach Mike Nestor told the newspaper.
"This is a friendly sport. I'd rather be told kids had to take them off before
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HS runners DQ'd for ?LiveStrong' wrist bands
"LiveStrong" doesn't add up to "run fast," at least for one high school
official in Virginia.
More than two dozen high school track athletes were disqualified from
an Oct. 6 event in Virginia Beach, Va., after an administrator ruled
Lance Armstrong's popular "LiveStrong" wristbands amounted to jewelry,
banned under district rules.
Some 26 athletes were wearing the yellow plastic bans and were
subsequently disqualified from the track event, according to a report
in the The Virginia Pilot newspaper.
"It's the stupidest rule I've ever heard," said Lanny Doan, one of the
high school coaches. "We're talking about a rubber band. It's not going
to harm anyone."
Some 12 million of the wrist bands have been sold nationwide to raise
money for the Lance Armstrong Foundation. The wrist bands have become a
cultural phenomenon, with big-time sports stars and even presidential
candidates sporting the plastic bands.
The wrist bands, however, fell afoul with school officials in Virginia
who have banned all except religious or medical jewelry from high
school track events. The Virginia Pilot reported high officials
notified coaches by e-mailed prior to Wednesday's with reminders that
the rule would be enforced.
Several athletes won their heats but were later disqualified after
wearing the wrist bands. One of the school's girl's squad lost out on
the team competition because of the ruling.
"Basically, we lost because of a cancer-support bracelet," Ocean Lakes
coach Mike Nestor told the newspaper. "This is a friendly sport. I'd
rather be told kids had to take them off before they run than told
?gotcha' afterward."
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Some 12 million of the wrist bands have been sold nationwide to raise
money for the Lance Armstrong Foundation. The wrist bands have become
a cultural phenomenon, with big-time sports stars and even
presidential candidates sporting the plastic bands.=20
The wrist bands, however, fell afoul with school officials in Virginia
who have banned all except religious or medical jewelry from high
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Pilot </x-tad-bigger></italic><x-tad-bigger>reported high officials
notified coaches by e-mailed prior to Wednesday's with reminders that
the rule would be enforced.=20
Several athletes won their heats but were later disqualified after
wearing the wrist bands. One of the school's girl's squad lost out on
the team competition because of the ruling.=20
"Basically, we lost because of a cancer-support bracelet," Ocean Lakes
coach Mike Nestor told the newspaper. "This is a friendly sport. I'd
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