Seeking opinions on winter training tire 700x23

Peter Murphy

2004-10-17



either gatorskins or armadillos...i prefer the gatorskins. They feel like

they grip the road better, in my opinion. I raced with a gator on my front

all last season.



 From: Mark Armstrong <ml-@starband.net>

Reply-To: ml-@starband.net

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Seeking opinions on winter training tire 700x23

Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:03:29 -0700



Wondered what road tires people like to ride during the wet winter that

don't rock cut as bad as most of the typical racing tires we ride in the

summer?







Mark L. Armstrong











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Armadillos all the way!

Dave

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Wondered what road tires people like to ride during the wet winter that don't rock cut as bad as most of the typical racing tires we ride in the summer?







Mark L. Armstrong











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Mark,



Everyone has an opinion on the best winter tire. For me I like to use a

700x25 steel belted Armadillo with another tire on the inside. I typically

use one of my 700x23 racing tires from the season, cut off the bead, and

shove it into the larger 25. I also put a Mr. Tuffy in as well and then use

about the thickest tube I can find. This setup is both heavy as hell and

bomb proof. In fact (knock on wood) I haven't had a flat in two years since

I started doing this. Plus, when the season rolls around and you switch to

your "racing" wheels you end up dropping a crap load of rotational weight

and you feel like you're flying.



Carl :-)



-----Original Message-----

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Subject: [OBRA Chat] Seeking opinions on winter training tire 700x23



Wondered what road tires people like to ride during the wet winter that don'

t rock cut as bad as most of the typical racing tires we ride in the summer?



Mark L. Armstrong







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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle21><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle21><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span

style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Everyone

has an opinion on the best winter tire.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> 

</span>For me I like to use a 700x25 steel belted Armadillo with another tire

on the inside.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>I typically use one

of my 700x23 racing tires from the season, cut off the bead, and shove it into

the larger 25.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>I also put a Mr.

Tuffy in as well and then use about the thickest tube I can find.<span

style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>This setup is both heavy as hell and

bomb proof.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>In fact (knock on wood)

I haven’t had a flat in two years since I started doing this.<span

style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </span>Plus, when the season rolls around and

you switch to your “racing” wheels you end up dropping a crap load of rotational

weight and you feel like you’re flying.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>



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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original

Message-----<br>

<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Mark Armstrong [mailto:ml-@starband.net]<br>

<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, October 17, 2004

4:03 PM<br>

<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ob-@topica.com<br>

<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [OBRA Chat] Seeking

opinions on winter training tire 700x23</span></font></p>



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color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Wondered

what road tires people like to ride during the wet winter that don’t rock cut

as bad as most of the typical racing tires we ride in the summer?</span></font><font

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Armstrong</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:

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2004-10-17



On Sun, 2004-10-17 at 16:03 -0700, Mark Armstrong wrote:

 Wondered what road tires people like to ride during the wet winter

that don’t rock cut as bad as most of the typical racing tires we ride

in the summer?



I ride Specialized Armadillos on my bike (which won't take anything

larger than a 23). The only flat I've had was the second time out on

them, I found a 1/2" long piece of 1/8" wire rope that had worked it's

way through the tire. Just ripped that bugger out, and the tires have

been fine ever since. Not very 'supple', but that's not my concern in

the winter.

Greg



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galen mittermann

2004-10-17



michelin eriliums. heavy, tough. pratically bombproof unless you hit a

big enough chunck of glass. conti gatorskins for training the rest of

the year.





Mark Armstrong wrote:

 

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relatives, my girlfreind, my former college drinking buddies, or anyone

else with whom I have ever had an association, so gripes are to be

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