2005 Mt Tabor Series update

Peter Murphy

2004-10-28





5:45 is terrible...Eventhough i wanted to torture myself, there was no way I

could get there by 6pm. And I'll take any amount of laps CDR wants to throw

out there, not that I'll even come close to David Auker





Pete Murphy













 From: ".David.Auker." <Dav-@Hevanet.com>

Reply-To: Dav-@Hevanet.com

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2005 Mt Tabor Series update

Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:19:06 -0700



 I'm up for one more just

for kicks though and an earlier start time would be fine by me.



FourLaps@5:45 would be great.



The biggie:: thanks to CDR for including fixed-gear at Tabor!



David





----- Original Message -----

From: "C Anton" <Canda-@aol.com>

To: <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 5:42 PM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] 2005 Mt Tabor Series update





 I did several of the fixed gear races and found 3 laps was enough for me

to get humiliated by David and several others. >>

Carl

NRR



Daniel Porter wrote:

 

I did 3 of the fixie races last year and plan on doing

more if not all that I can this year.



1 (or 2) more laps would be painful, however I would

agree that one more lap would 'enhance' the

experience. 2 might be pushing it, but I am

agreeable.



I also agree with David, that David's assessment of

the difficulty is also correct (unless of course you

actually try to keep up with David or the PUMA guy...)



I prefer the 6:00 start time, but could do 5:45 (I

think that is what David meant - not 6:45) if that was

agreed upon. If we add 1 or 2(the horror) laps, it

might be required to start early in order to allow the

rest of the races to start on time.



Whatever Clark decides, I'll be happy with. I'm just

stoked that there is such a category at Tabor....



-djp



--- ".David.Auker." <Dav-@Hevanet.com> wrote:



 Tabor Fixed Race:



 Tell you what--I'll pick up a bottle of wine

tonight

 and think about this some more after I start

seeing

 double.



Well? :-)



I think the simplest "upgrade" to the Fixed race

would be to add 1 or 2

laps. Roger sounds affirmative on that...any other

participants care to

chime in? I think the difficulty of riding

fixed-gear on Tabor might be

over-estimated, as they do climb more efficiently

than a multi-geared,

freewheeled bike...



As far as scheduling, that would only mean starting

a little earlier, say

6:45?



Fun as it seems,the Handicap format might be a bit

dicey, given the

technical finish.



David



----- Original Message -----

From: "Clark Ritchie" <clarkr-@yahoo.com>

To: "OBRA" <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:35 AM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2005 Mt Tabor Series update





 You are a true glutton for punishment, David!



Yes, the possibility exists to alter the format of

the

 fixed gear race by introducing a handicap

category.

 

Off the top of my head perhaps there could be a

freak

 category riding 5 or 6 laps followed by a human

category riding the current 3 laps, with staggered

starts.



My inclindation is to keep it simple but with the

right tweaking I think that it would possible to

get a

 photo finish between Candi, Jim Lee and yourself.

(All due respect to the other fixers, but David

Auker

 got at least $100 out of me last year.)



Tell you what--I'll pick up a bottle of wine

tonight

 and think about this some more after I start

seeing

 double.



Regards... CDR



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.David.Auker.

2004-10-28



 I'm up for one more just

for kicks though and an earlier start time would be fine by me.



FourLaps@5:45 would be great.



The biggie:: thanks to CDR for including fixed-gear at Tabor!



David





----- Original Message -----

From: "C Anton" <Canda-@aol.com>

To: <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 5:42 PM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] 2005 Mt Tabor Series update





 I did several of the fixed gear races and found 3 laps was enough for me

to get humiliated by David and several others. >>

Carl

NRR



Daniel Porter wrote:

 

I did 3 of the fixie races last year and plan on doing

more if not all that I can this year.



1 (or 2) more laps would be painful, however I would

agree that one more lap would 'enhance' the

experience. 2 might be pushing it, but I am

agreeable.



I also agree with David, that David's assessment of

the difficulty is also correct (unless of course you

actually try to keep up with David or the PUMA guy...)



I prefer the 6:00 start time, but could do 5:45 (I

think that is what David meant - not 6:45) if that was

agreed upon. If we add 1 or 2(the horror) laps, it

might be required to start early in order to allow the

rest of the races to start on time.



Whatever Clark decides, I'll be happy with. I'm just

stoked that there is such a category at Tabor....



-djp



--- ".David.Auker." <Dav-@Hevanet.com> wrote:



 Tabor Fixed Race:



 Tell you what--I'll pick up a bottle of wine

tonight

 and think about this some more after I start

seeing

 double.



Well? :-)



I think the simplest "upgrade" to the Fixed race

would be to add 1 or 2

laps. Roger sounds affirmative on that...any other

participants care to

chime in? I think the difficulty of riding

fixed-gear on Tabor might be

over-estimated, as they do climb more efficiently

than a multi-geared,

freewheeled bike...



As far as scheduling, that would only mean starting

a little earlier, say

6:45?



Fun as it seems,the Handicap format might be a bit

dicey, given the

technical finish.



David



----- Original Message -----

From: "Clark Ritchie" <clarkr-@yahoo.com>

To: "OBRA" <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:35 AM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2005 Mt Tabor Series update





 You are a true glutton for punishment, David!



Yes, the possibility exists to alter the format of

the

 fixed gear race by introducing a handicap

category.

 

Off the top of my head perhaps there could be a

freak

 category riding 5 or 6 laps followed by a human

category riding the current 3 laps, with staggered

starts.



My inclindation is to keep it simple but with the

right tweaking I think that it would possible to

get a

 photo finish between Candi, Jim Lee and yourself.

(All due respect to the other fixers, but David

Auker

 got at least $100 out of me last year.)



Tell you what--I'll pick up a bottle of wine

tonight

 and think about this some more after I start

seeing

 double.



Regards... CDR



C Anton

2004-10-28



I did several of the fixed gear races and found 3 laps was enough for me

to get humiliated by David and several others. I'm up for one more just

for kicks though and an earlier start time would be fine by me.



Carl

NRR



Daniel Porter wrote:

 

I did 3 of the fixie races last year and plan on doing

more if not all that I can this year.



1 (or 2) more laps would be painful, however I would

agree that one more lap would 'enhance' the

experience. 2 might be pushing it, but I am

agreeable.



I also agree with David, that David's assessment of

the difficulty is also correct (unless of course you

actually try to keep up with David or the PUMA guy...)



I prefer the 6:00 start time, but could do 5:45 (I

think that is what David meant - not 6:45) if that was

agreed upon. If we add 1 or 2(the horror) laps, it

might be required to start early in order to allow the

rest of the races to start on time.



Whatever Clark decides, I'll be happy with. I'm just

stoked that there is such a category at Tabor....



-djp



--- ".David.Auker." <Dav-@Hevanet.com> wrote:



 Tabor Fixed Race:



 Tell you what--I'll pick up a bottle of wine

tonight

 and think about this some more after I start

seeing

 double.



Well? :-)



I think the simplest "upgrade" to the Fixed race

would be to add 1 or 2

laps. Roger sounds affirmative on that...any other

participants care to

chime in? I think the difficulty of riding

fixed-gear on Tabor might be

over-estimated, as they do climb more efficiently

than a multi-geared,

freewheeled bike...



As far as scheduling, that would only mean starting

a little earlier, say

6:45?



Fun as it seems,the Handicap format might be a bit

dicey, given the

technical finish.



David



----- Original Message -----

From: "Clark Ritchie" <clarkr-@yahoo.com>

To: "OBRA" <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:35 AM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2005 Mt Tabor Series update





 You are a true glutton for punishment, David!



Yes, the possibility exists to alter the format of

the

 fixed gear race by introducing a handicap

category.

 

Off the top of my head perhaps there could be a

freak

 category riding 5 or 6 laps followed by a human

category riding the current 3 laps, with staggered

starts.



My inclindation is to keep it simple but with the

right tweaking I think that it would possible to

get a

 photo finish between Candi, Jim Lee and yourself.

(All due respect to the other fixers, but David

Auker

 got at least $100 out of me last year.)



Tell you what--I'll pick up a bottle of wine

tonight

 and think about this some more after I start

seeing

 double.



Regards... CDR



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Daniel Porter

2004-10-28



I did 3 of the fixie races last year and plan on doing

more if not all that I can this year.



1 (or 2) more laps would be painful, however I would

agree that one more lap would 'enhance' the

experience. 2 might be pushing it, but I am

agreeable.



I also agree with David, that David's assessment of

the difficulty is also correct (unless of course you

actually try to keep up with David or the PUMA guy...)



I prefer the 6:00 start time, but could do 5:45 (I

think that is what David meant - not 6:45) if that was

agreed upon. If we add 1 or 2(the horror) laps, it

might be required to start early in order to allow the

rest of the races to start on time.



Whatever Clark decides, I'll be happy with. I'm just

stoked that there is such a category at Tabor....



-djp



--- ".David.Auker." <Dav-@Hevanet.com> wrote:



 Tabor Fixed Race:



 Tell you what--I'll pick up a bottle of wine

tonight

 and think about this some more after I start

seeing

 double.



Well? :-)



I think the simplest "upgrade" to the Fixed race

would be to add 1 or 2

laps. Roger sounds affirmative on that...any other

participants care to

chime in? I think the difficulty of riding

fixed-gear on Tabor might be

over-estimated, as they do climb more efficiently

than a multi-geared,

freewheeled bike...



As far as scheduling, that would only mean starting

a little earlier, say

6:45?



Fun as it seems,the Handicap format might be a bit

dicey, given the

technical finish.



David



----- Original Message -----

From: "Clark Ritchie" <clarkr-@yahoo.com>

To: "OBRA" <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:35 AM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2005 Mt Tabor Series update





 You are a true glutton for punishment, David!



Yes, the possibility exists to alter the format of

the

 fixed gear race by introducing a handicap

category.

 

Off the top of my head perhaps there could be a

freak

 category riding 5 or 6 laps followed by a human

category riding the current 3 laps, with staggered

starts.



My inclindation is to keep it simple but with the

right tweaking I think that it would possible to

get a

 photo finish between Candi, Jim Lee and yourself.

(All due respect to the other fixers, but David

Auker

 got at least $100 out of me last year.)



Tell you what--I'll pick up a bottle of wine

tonight

 and think about this some more after I start

seeing

 double.



Regards... CDR



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.David.Auker.

2004-10-28



Tabor Fixed Race:



 Tell you what--I'll pick up a bottle of wine tonight

and think about this some more after I start seeing

double.



Well? :-)



I think the simplest "upgrade" to the Fixed race would be to add 1 or 2

laps. Roger sounds affirmative on that...any other participants care to

chime in? I think the difficulty of riding fixed-gear on Tabor might be

over-estimated, as they do climb more efficiently than a multi-geared,

freewheeled bike...



As far as scheduling, that would only mean starting a little earlier, say

6:45?



Fun as it seems,the Handicap format might be a bit dicey, given the

technical finish.



David



----- Original Message -----

From: "Clark Ritchie" <clarkr-@yahoo.com>

To: "OBRA" <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 11:35 AM

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2005 Mt Tabor Series update





 You are a true glutton for punishment, David!



Yes, the possibility exists to alter the format of the

fixed gear race by introducing a handicap category.



Off the top of my head perhaps there could be a freak

category riding 5 or 6 laps followed by a human

category riding the current 3 laps, with staggered

starts.



My inclindation is to keep it simple but with the

right tweaking I think that it would possible to get a

photo finish between Candi, Jim Lee and yourself.

(All due respect to the other fixers, but David Auker

got at least $100 out of me last year.)



Tell you what--I'll pick up a bottle of wine tonight

and think about this some more after I start seeing

double.



Regards... CDR



Peter Murphy

2004-10-27





I couldn't participate in the 6pm fixed gear race due to work schedule.





Pete Murphy



 From: Roger Joys <roger-@speakeasy.net>

Reply-To: roger-@speakeasy.net

To: OBRA <ob-@topica.com>

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2005 Mt Tabor Series update

Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:35:59 +0000



I'd agree on more laps, but 6:00 seems about as early as possible for some

of us working stiffs.

Thanks Clark et al. The series was great!

Nothing like a downhill chase at 160+ cadence.

-r



 -----Original Message-----

From: .David.Auker. [mailto:Dav-@Hevanet.com]

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 04:36 PM

To: 'OBRA', 'Clark Ritchie'

Cc: 'Dave - rivercity'

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2005 Mt Tabor Series update



 4) The fixed gear category will be back with the same

structure as this year--3 laps, free if you enter a

geared race ($7 otherwise) with cash prizes each

night.



Great series, Clark! Glad you're up and running for '05 (already!).



Two thoughts:



1) I want to encourage more riders to race the fixed-gear category! Very

fun event...very special and unique to Portland. We need to keep this

going!



2) I'd lobby for a lap or two more...could we push the start time up a

tad

 bit earlier?



David



p.s.



The River City Fixed-Gear Ride:



Sundays through February, 10:00,

River City Bicycles on SE Martin Luther King.

-+1.5 hours of urban meander at a chatty pace.



"If you're not crossin', you should be fixin'!"



=-=-=-ooo=-=-=-ooo=-=-=-ooo=-=-=-ooo=-=-=



"Fixed-gear road riding - Better than Ever."



David Auker 503-246-1100

River City/Team Rose City/Clif Bar

Piano instruction in SW PDX



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I'd agree on more laps, but 6:00 seems about as early as possible for some of us working stiffs.

Thanks Clark et al. The series was great!

Nothing like a downhill chase at 160+ cadence.

-r



 -----Original Message-----

From: .David.Auker. [mailto:Dav-@Hevanet.com]

Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 04:36 PM

To: 'OBRA', 'Clark Ritchie'

Cc: 'Dave - rivercity'

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] 2005 Mt Tabor Series update



 4) The fixed gear category will be back with the same

structure as this year--3 laps, free if you enter a

geared race ($7 otherwise) with cash prizes each

night.



Great series, Clark! Glad you're up and running for '05 (already!).



Two thoughts:



1) I want to encourage more riders to race the fixed-gear category! Very

fun event...very special and unique to Portland. We need to keep this

going!



2) I'd lobby for a lap or two more...could we push the start time up a tad

bit earlier?



David



p.s.



The River City Fixed-Gear Ride:



Sundays through February, 10:00,

River City Bicycles on SE Martin Luther King.

-+1.5 hours of urban meander at a chatty pace.



"If you're not crossin', you should be fixin'!"



=-=-=-ooo=-=-=-ooo=-=-=-ooo=-=-=-ooo=-=-=



"Fixed-gear road riding - Better than Ever."



David Auker 503-246-1100

River City/Team Rose City/Clif Bar

Piano instruction in SW PDX



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Clark Ritchie

2004-10-27



You are a true glutton for punishment, David!



Yes, the possibility exists to alter the format of the

fixed gear race by introducing a handicap category.



Off the top of my head perhaps there could be a freak

category riding 5 or 6 laps followed by a human

category riding the current 3 laps, with staggered

starts.



My inclindation is to keep it simple but with the

right tweaking I think that it would possible to get a

photo finish between Candi, Jim Lee and yourself.

(All due respect to the other fixers, but David Auker

got at least $100 out of me last year.)



Tell you what--I'll pick up a bottle of wine tonight

and think about this some more after I start seeing

double.



Regards... CDR







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.David.Auker.

2004-10-27



 4) The fixed gear category will be back with the same

structure as this year--3 laps, free if you enter a

geared race ($7 otherwise) with cash prizes each

night.



Great series, Clark! Glad you're up and running for '05 (already!).



Two thoughts:



1) I want to encourage more riders to race the fixed-gear category! Very

fun event...very special and unique to Portland. We need to keep this

going!



2) I'd lobby for a lap or two more...could we push the start time up a tad

bit earlier?



David



p.s.



The River City Fixed-Gear Ride:



Sundays through February, 10:00,

River City Bicycles on SE Martin Luther King.

-+1.5 hours of urban meander at a chatty pace.



"If you're not crossin', you should be fixin'!"



=-=-=-ooo=-=-=-ooo=-=-=-ooo=-=-=-ooo=-=-=



"Fixed-gear road riding - Better than Ever."



David Auker 503-246-1100

River City/Team Rose City/Clif Bar

Piano instruction in SW PDX



Clark Ritchie

2004-10-22



Here's something non-political to think about.



The 2005 River City Bicycles Mt Tabor Series is

confirmed and will once again be six dates--all five

Wednesdays in June with the final race on July 6.



Four items to note.



1) Race #2 (June 8) is "Ladies Night", presented by

Sorella Forte. Women can race for 1/2 off. There

will also be special prizes.



Sorella Forte will also be offering a special

pre-series introduction to bike racing on Mt Tabor.



2) Good news for trackies--the Mt Tabor Series will

not interfere with the Alpenrose 6 day.



3) We raised 204# of canned food for the Oregon Food

Bank this year. In 2005 I want to raise 300# of food.

Save $2 by bringing 2 cans of food.



4) The fixed gear category will be back with the same

structure as this year--3 laps, free if you enter a

geared race ($7 otherwise) with cash prizes each

night.



As always, thank you to River City Bicycles for their

generous support.



Clark

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