OBRA: OBRA Chat: Waterproof gloves?

Susan Otcenas

2004-10-26

I have a new pair of 2004 Pearl Izumi Amfib Gloves (not lobster, but 4

finger). Last night I rode home in 45 degrees with a steady rain. About 40

minutes. Jacket cuff OVER gloves to prevent any water running in. Hands

were 100% dry and completely warm. Gloves absorbed essentially no water -

the water beads up and rolls off the outer shell fabric. Although this is

my longest ride to date with these gloves (it hasn't been cold enough), I

have no doubt my hands would have remained dry for a looong time. They are

VERY warm though, so I wouldn't wear them in temps over 45, and they really

do better in temps under 40.

YMMV,

Susan

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Anyone use a good system for rain gloves? I have yet to find a

waterproof glove live up to its advertising. I usually use polypro

liners in colder conditions. Here in Hood River it can easily be 10 or

more degrees cooler that parts west. So what do you use to stay

dry(ish)?

Thanks,

Martin

Mike Murray

2004-10-25

I use neoprene gloves. Your hands get wet because of the sweat that doesn't

get out, but they stay warm, at least for me. YMMV

Mike

-----Original Message-----

From: martin cohen [mailto:mc-@gorge.net]

Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 11:30 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Waterproof gloves?

Anyone use a good system for rain gloves? I have yet to find a

waterproof glove live up to its advertising. I usually use polypro

liners in colder conditions. Here in Hood River it can easily be 10 or

more degrees cooler that parts west. So what do you use to stay

dry(ish)?

Thanks,

Martin

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Tim M.

2004-10-25

Cheap gloves and Scotchguard.

I sprayed some regular bike gloves with Scotchguard

for Mt. Biking and it really worked great. Just re-apply

often.

Tim

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From: "Eric Kytola" <Eric.K-@kingrs.com>

To: <mc-@gorge.net>; <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:01 PM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Waterproof gloves?

the prblem with waterproof gloves is that when the rainwater runs down

your arm it goes into your gloves (those outdoor research gloves filled up

like water ballons). take it from someone who does a bunch of training in

the rain.....bring 3-4 maybe 5 pairs with you. i always figured 45 mintues

per pair of gloves.

-----Original Message-----

From: martin cohen [mailto:mc-@gorge.net]

Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 11:30 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Waterproof gloves?

Anyone use a good system for rain gloves? I have yet to find a

waterproof glove live up to its advertising. I usually use polypro

liners in colder conditions. Here in Hood River it can easily be 10 or

more degrees cooler that parts west. So what do you use to stay

dry(ish)?

Thanks,

Martin

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Michael O'Hair

2004-10-25

I've got about twenty pairs of gloves in my kit and I've come to one

conclusion: you can't stay dry, so at least stay warm.

The best I found were the Performance "windproof" gloves. I also have their

neoprene version of the

same glove but they act as little hand saunas. I use REI polypro glove

liners under them on the nasty days and the combination works very well.

One of the benefits of the Performance gloves is that the sides of the

fingers allow some airflow; you can spread your fingers a bit and get some

cooling or make a fist and keep quite warm. They will eventually soak

through in a prolonged downpour but it takes several hours.

My two cents. Your mileage may vary.

Dave German

2004-10-25

I use these too and they are good stuff.

From: Steve-@clark.wa.gov

Reply-To: Steve-@clark.wa.gov

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Waterproof gloves?

Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:31:29 -0700

Martin,

I went to the Teo's Windtex glove and I bought it one size larger than I

normally wear. So, instead of a large, I bought an XL. They are a bit roomy

so you have to be sure on your shifting but it's the dead space in them

that

helps keep my hands warm. I have not found a water proof glove period. I

think Assos makes a fleece/wind-proof type glove also but again, get it a

size to large.

http://www.bicyclinghub.com/teospflwigl.html

P.S. the fleece is nice for the nose wipe too...

-----Original Message-----

From: martin cohen [mailto:mc-@gorge.net]

Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 11:30 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Waterproof gloves?

Anyone use a good system for rain gloves? I have yet to find a

waterproof glove live up to its advertising. I usually use polypro

liners in colder conditions. Here in Hood River it can easily be 10 or

more degrees cooler that parts west. So what do you use to stay

dry(ish)?

Thanks,

Martin

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David Oliphant

2004-10-25

Another option...go to a diving shop (SCUBA) and purchase a lite pair of

gloves...keep your hands warm even when wet.

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From: <kmor-@hdcampbell.com>

To: <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 2:50 PM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Waterproof gloves?

Richard Fattic wrote:

2. Aerostich Triple Digit Rain Cover -This is a motorcycling lobster

over shell I'm considering.

www.aerostich.com

I have a set of these that I use oddly enough on my motorcycle. They

work very well, although eventually water will run down the outside of

my jacket and under the guantlet. You loose a lot of 'feel' with these

(or any other) over gloves, but if they work at 65+ for hours on end,

they should work on the bicycle!

FWIW, they aren't that abrasive resistant though, and will wear through

on the pavement. Don't ask how I know. :O

Ken

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kmor-@hdcampbell.com

2004-10-25

Richard Fattic wrote:

2. Aerostich Triple Digit Rain Cover -This is a motorcycling lobster

over shell I'm considering.

www.aerostich.com

I have a set of these that I use oddly enough on my motorcycle. They

work very well, although eventually water will run down the outside of

my jacket and under the guantlet. You loose a lot of 'feel' with these

(or any other) over gloves, but if they work at 65+ for hours on end,

they should work on the bicycle!

FWIW, they aren't that abrasive resistant though, and will wear through

on the pavement. Don't ask how I know. :O

Ken

rambobikeman@juno.com

2004-10-25

I've used the Seal Skins before and initially was very happy with them. The only problem is the knit shell and knit liner don't protect the waterproof membrane from scretching and ultimately breaking. Also, sometimes the liner would pull out of the liner and it was hard to get the things sorted back into the proper fingers.

For the last couple of years, I've used the Manzella Windstopper gloves, and forgone waterproofness for warmth and wid proofness. I just picked up a pair of the Specialized Submerge glove and am happy with them so far.

I feel that since none of the major clothing/glove manufacturers exist in a climate like ours, that many don't make a truly waterproof glove that works for us. All of the non-cycling waterproof gloves I have tried have been massively over insulated..

-Rambo

Daniel Porter

2004-10-25

I'm using them and so far I have been as happy with

them as any other glove. Just make sure you get the

kind with fleece on the inside, otherwise it is like

wearing neoprene...brrrr

The advantage of SS is that they are no more bulky

than a pair of knit gloves. I haven't warn them on a

a super cold day though so I am not sure about how

warm they truly are. They are definately as H20 proof

as gloves can be though.

(I'd recommend)

--- sal-@bicyclinghub.com wrote:

Seal skins also makes a waterproof glove. Has

anyone used them?

DD

martin cohen <mc-@gorge.net> wrote:

Anyone use a good system for rain gloves? I have yet

to find a

waterproof glove live up to its advertising. I

usually use polypro

liners in colder conditions. Here in Hood River it

can easily be 10 or

more degrees cooler that parts west. So what do you

use to stay

dry(ish)?

Thanks,

Martin

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Steve-@clark.wa.gov

2004-10-25

Martin,

I went to the Teo's Windtex glove and I bought it one size larger than I

normally wear. So, instead of a large, I bought an XL. They are a bit roomy

so you have to be sure on your shifting but it's the dead space in them that

helps keep my hands warm. I have not found a water proof glove period. I

think Assos makes a fleece/wind-proof type glove also but again, get it a

size to large.

http://www.bicyclinghub.com/teospflwigl.html

P.S. the fleece is nice for the nose wipe too...

-----Original Message-----

From: martin cohen [mailto:mc-@gorge.net]

Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 11:30 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Waterproof gloves?

Anyone use a good system for rain gloves? I have yet to find a

waterproof glove live up to its advertising. I usually use polypro

liners in colder conditions. Here in Hood River it can easily be 10 or

more degrees cooler that parts west. So what do you use to stay

dry(ish)?

Thanks,

Martin

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Sal-@bicyclinghub.com

2004-10-25

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Seal skins also makes a waterproof glove. Has anyone used them?

DD

martin cohen <mc-@gorge.net> wrote:

Anyone use a good system for rain gloves? I have yet to find a

waterproof glove live up to its advertising. I usually use polypro

liners in colder conditions. Here in Hood River it can easily be 10 or

more degrees cooler that parts west. So what do you use to stay

dry(ish)?

Thanks,

Martin

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Douglas Duguay

www.bicyclinghub.com

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Phone 503-234-9898

Fax 503-296-2669

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Eric Kytola

2004-10-25

the prblem with waterproof gloves is that when the rainwater runs down your arm it goes into your gloves (those outdoor research gloves filled up like water ballons). take it from someone who does a bunch of training in the rain.....bring 3-4 maybe 5 pairs with you. i always figured 45 mintues per pair of gloves.

-----Original Message-----

From: martin cohen [mailto:mc-@gorge.net]

Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 11:30 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Waterproof gloves?

Anyone use a good system for rain gloves? I have yet to find a

waterproof glove live up to its advertising. I usually use polypro

liners in colder conditions. Here in Hood River it can easily be 10 or

more degrees cooler that parts west. So what do you use to stay

dry(ish)?

Thanks,

Martin

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Richard Fattic

2004-10-25

There's actually two products I would recommend:

1. Outdoor Research make some gortex over shells in a lobster

configuration. It's what I'm currently using but it could use a longer

gantlet to go under my rain jacket sleeve. Purchased at the outlet

store in Seattle, I don't think they are still made. They have a

replacement called RAIN CLAW MITTS? with it looks like a longer gantlet

for 59 dollars.

http://www.orgear.com/home/style/70410

2. Aerostich Triple Digit Rain Cover -This is a motorcycling lobster

over shell I'm considering.

www.aerostich.com

Aerostich Triple Digit Rain Cover

It is possible to enjoy warm, dry hands while being plastered and

hammered and hosed. The ripstop nylon laminated fabric breathes enough

during rain conditions so your skin won?t become clammy. Breathability

also makes them useful as a colder weather over-glove. They allow a

secure grip when used over your regular (crash protective) gloves.

Gloved hands slide easily in so you are not fighting to stretch them

on. They pack very small, so you?ll always have them ready. The ripstop

nylon fabric is thin and won?t cramp your hands. The Velcro wrist

cinches are ergonomically reversed and easier to use. Oversize

gauntlets feature an elastic drawcord which cinches with tethered

cordlocks. There's Scotchlite reflective on the outside of the

gauntlets for nighttime hand signaling. The three digit design keeps

your hands warmer, provides good finger control for clutch and brake

levers, and lets you be polite to Vulcans (always). Black. Two sizes:

over armored or winter gloves use the size XL, over regular gloves, the

size L.

Manufacturer: Aerostich

CAT. NO. 442 ???$ 47.00 ???Select/Order

On Oct 25, 2004, at 11:30 AM, martin cohen wrote:

Martel, Matthew S (Matt Martel)

2004-10-25

Great question. I have yet to find gloves that keep my fingers dry on

wet days. I have plenty of gloves that do a great job of keeping my

fingers warm but not necessarily dry. The gloves I have hold the water

and then my fingers get cold. It would be nice to have a waterproof

shell I can slip over my gloves when it starts to rain. Any such thing

out there?

Matt

-----Original Message-----

From: martin cohen [mailto:mc-@gorge.net]

Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 11:30 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Waterproof gloves?

Anyone use a good system for rain gloves? I have yet to find a

waterproof glove live up to its advertising. I usually use polypro

liners in colder conditions. Here in Hood River it can easily be 10 or

more degrees cooler that parts west. So what do you use to stay

dry(ish)?

Thanks,

Martin

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Schreck, George

2004-10-25

Specialized has a waterproof glove that appears to work very well from

my recent experience. The glove also is warm in cold temperatures. Not

many other gloves appear to keep my hands dry for more than one hour.

-----Original Message-----

From: martin cohen [mailto:mc-@gorge.net]

Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 11:30 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Waterproof gloves?

Anyone use a good system for rain gloves? I have yet to find a

waterproof glove live up to its advertising. I usually use polypro

liners in colder conditions. Here in Hood River it can easily be 10 or

more degrees cooler that parts west. So what do you use to stay

dry(ish)?

Thanks,

Martin

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martin cohen

2004-10-25

Anyone use a good system for rain gloves? I have yet to find a

waterproof glove live up to its advertising. I usually use polypro

liners in colder conditions. Here in Hood River it can easily be 10 or

more degrees cooler that parts west. So what do you use to stay

dry(ish)?

Thanks,

Martin