helmet-mounted mountain bike light, recommendations?

Brian

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I recommend using 2 lights, one helmet and one handle bar. This helps

my depth perception. Also, you will have a back-up system if one quits

working. Note: This happens a lot, either to me or someone else. I am

always loaning to someone who's in trouble.







Personally, I use sealed lead acid battery without any fancy features.

The lights should be at least 10 or 12 watts each and have a wide

spread. I have a spare 5 watt light/battery that I take along as

back-up and it's worthless, too dim!      







Brian







-----Original Message-----

From: Jeff Norville [mailto:jnorv-@geodesigninc.com]

Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 9:39 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] helmet-mounted mountain bike light,

recommendations?







I'm looking for a commuting/winter riding light bright enough to take

out on Forest Park trails - er, roads; soliciting opinions is dangerous,

but a morning's worth of reading at mtbr.com has left me confused and

feeling broke.







Top contender right now is NightRider's Digital Evolution. Can't afford

or justify those HID lights now (mostly recreational rider, no 24-hour

races on the horizon). I think I'd prefer a helmet-mounted system, and

I'd like to keep it under $300. Is this a winner? If I don't mount it

to my frame will it last longer than 6 months? Do the electrical

systems really spontaneously combust?







Thanks for your suggestions,



Jeff







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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=3 color=navy face=Tahoma><span

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recommend using 2 lights</span></font></b><font color=navy face=Tahoma><span

style='font-family:Tahoma;color:navy'>, one helmet and one handle bar. 

This helps my depth perception.  Also, you will have a back-up system if

one quits working.  Note: This happens a lot, either to me or someone else.

I am always loaning to someone who’s in trouble.</span></font></p>



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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:

12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:navy'>Personally, I use sealed lead acid battery

without any fancy features.  The lights should be at least 10 or 12 watts

each and have a wide spread.  I have a spare 5 watt light/battery that I

take along as back-up and it’s worthless, too dim!      </span></font></p>



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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Jeff Norville

[mailto:jnorv-@geodesigninc.com] <br>

<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Thursday,

October 28, 2004</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:

10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span

style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>9:39 AM</span></font><font size=2

face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>

<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ob-@topica.com<br>

<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [OBRA Chat]

helmet-mounted mountain bike light, recommendations?</span></font></p>



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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2

face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode"'>I’m

looking for a commuting/winter riding light bright enough to take out on Forest

Park trails – er, roads; soliciting opinions is dangerous, but a

morning’s worth of reading at mtbr.com has left me confused and feeling

broke.</span></font></p>



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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2

face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode"'>Top

contender right now is NightRider’s Digital Evolution.  Can’t

afford or justify those HID lights now (mostly recreational rider, no 24-hour

races on the horizon).  I think I’d prefer a helmet-mounted system,

and I’d like to keep it under $300.  Is this a winner?  If I don’t

mount it to my frame will it last longer than 6 months?  Do the electrical

systems really spontaneously combust?</span></font></p>



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face="Lucida Sans Unicode"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode"'>Thanks

for your suggestions,</span></font></p>



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It's worth taking a look at the new generation LED lights. Lots of light.

Cateye EL-500 and the new, non-digital one available through Performance.

4-AA's last 30 or 8 hrs respectively. The Cateye has a more diffused beam.

Both about $50.



-----Original Message-----

From: Steve-@clark.wa.gov [mailto:Steve-@clark.wa.gov]

Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 10:39 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] helmet-mounted mountain bike light,

recommendations?





Jeff,

I have the model just prior to the digital evolution called the digital

headTrip and my brother has the digital evolution. I've had mine for several

years now and had to replace the battery once. Although the old battery is

still functional, I don't get the 2+ hours out of it on high beam any more

so I got another one. Now I have 3-4 hours of dark riding if I need it. I've

been pretty happy with it and trust me, if you have this thing on the 15W

setting, nobody is going to be looking into it. It's pretty bright. It's

bright enough to see stuff and then avoid it. Whereas some of the cheaper

lights are about bright enough to see what you are GOING to hit.

I haven't experienced any spontaneous combustion and I haven't even heard of

that before. I haven't had to replace the bulb yet....



-----Original Message-----

From: Jeff Norville [mailto:jnorv-@geodesigninc.com]

Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 10:39 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] helmet-mounted mountain bike light, recommendations?







I'm looking for a commuting/winter riding light bright enough to take out on

Forest Park trails - er, roads; soliciting opinions is dangerous, but a

morning's worth of reading at mtbr.com has left me confused and feeling

broke.







Top contender right now is NightRider's Digital Evolution. Can't afford or

justify those HID lights now (mostly recreational rider, no 24-hour races on

the horizon). I think I'd prefer a helmet-mounted system, and I'd like to

keep it under $300. Is this a winner? If I don't mount it to my frame will

it last longer than 6 months? Do the electrical systems really

spontaneously combust?







Thanks for your suggestions,



Jeff







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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=578485117-28102004>It's

worth taking a look at the new generation LED lights.  Lots of

light.   Cateye EL-500 and the new, non-digital one available through

Performance.  4-AA's last 30 or 8 hrs respectively.  The Cateye has a

more diffused beam.  Both about $50.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>

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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT

face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>

Steve-@clark.wa.gov [mailto:Steve-@clark.wa.gov] <BR><B>Sent:</B>

Thursday, October 28, 2004 10:39 AM<BR><B>To:</B>

ob-@topica.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [OBRA Chat] helmet-mounted mountain

bike light, recommendations?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=974083317-28102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff

size=2>Jeff,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=974083317-28102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I

have the model just prior to the digital evolution called the digital

headTrip and my brother has the digital evolution. I've had mine for

several years now and had to replace the battery once. Although the old

battery is still functional, I don't get the 2+ hours out of it on high beam

any more so I got another one. Now I have 3-4 hours of dark riding if I need

it. I've been pretty happy with it and trust me, if you have this thing on the

15W setting, nobody is going to be looking into it. It's pretty bright. It's

bright enough to see stuff and then avoid it. Whereas some of the cheaper

lights are about bright enough to see what you are GOING to

hit.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=974083317-28102004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I

haven't experienced any spontaneous combustion and I haven't even heard of

that before. I haven't had to replace the bulb yet....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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    face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Jeff Norville

    [mailto:jnorv-@geodesigninc.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 28,

    2004 10:39 AM<BR><B>To:</B> ob-@topica.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [OBRA Chat]

    helmet-mounted mountain bike light, recommendations?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>

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    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN

    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Sans Unicode'">I'm looking for

    a commuting/winter riding light bright enough to take out on Forest Park

    trails - er, roads; soliciting opinions is dangerous, but a morning's worth

    of reading at mtbr.com has left me confused and feeling broke.</SPAN></P>

    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN

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    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN

    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Sans Unicode'">Top contender

    right now is </SPAN><SPAN

    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Sans Unicode'">NightRider's

    Digital Evolution.  Can't afford or justify those HID lights now

    (mostly recreational rider, no 24-hour races on the horizon).</SPAN><SPAN

    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Sans Unicode'">  I think

    I'd prefer a helmet-mounted system, and I'd like to keep it under

    $300.  Is this a winner?  If I don't mount it to my frame will it

    last longer than 6 months?  Do the electrical systems really

    spontaneously combust?</SPAN></P>

    <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN

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    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Sans Unicode'">Thanks for your

    suggestions,</SPAN></P>

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    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Sans Unicode'">Jeff</SPAN></P>

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I'm looking for a commuting/winter riding light bright enough to take

out on Forest Park trails - er, roads; soliciting opinions is dangerous,

but a morning's worth of reading at mtbr.com has left me confused and

feeling broke.







Top contender right now is NightRider's Digital Evolution. Can't afford

or justify those HID lights now (mostly recreational rider, no 24-hour

races on the horizon). I think I'd prefer a helmet-mounted system, and

I'd like to keep it under $300. Is this a winner? If I don't mount it

to my frame will it last longer than 6 months? Do the electrical

systems really spontaneously combust?







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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode"'>I’m

looking for a commuting/winter riding light bright enough to take out on Forest

Park trails – er, roads; soliciting opinions is dangerous, but a morning’s

worth of reading at mtbr.com has left me confused and feeling broke.</span></p>



<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode"'> </span></p>



<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode"'>Top

contender right now is </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode"'>NightRider’s

Digital Evolution.  Can’t afford or justify those HID lights now (mostly

recreational rider, no 24-hour races on the horizon).</span><span

style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode"'>  I think I’d

prefer a helmet-mounted system, and I’d like to keep it under $300. 

Is this a winner?  If I don’t mount it to my frame will it last

longer than 6 months?  Do the electrical systems really spontaneously

combust?</span></p>



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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode"'>Thanks

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