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stevea-@comcast.net

2004-11-03

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Matt, I suffer from knee pain also just behind the knee cap in my left

knee. I have had two series of injection of synvisc and I'm going to try

it this winter without it. I think I've found a combination of stuff

that works to a fairly good degree.

1. I have custom orthotics that Michael Martindale did for me. Your doc

should be able to guide you to someone he thinks is good.

2. I stretch there often as your doc recommended, sometimes even

stretching in on the bike helps.

3. I do leg extensions to strengthen that small part of the quad on the

inside of the leg. I hold the extension out, muscles contracted, to

increase the strength in the desired area for a count of ten. I will be

working my way up to 3 sets of 15 at 140 lbs. Once strength begins to

increase in that small part of the quad, pain usually lessens somewhat

and by the time I get up to 125 lbs. I'm usually riding fairly pain free

with only minimal flair ups.

4. I take anti-inflammitories to control inflammation.

5. If the pain gets kind of bad, I go into an icing regime in which I'll

ice it twice a day deeply for several days. This usually will bring

things back to a manageable state.

HTH

Steve

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From: Martel, Matthew S (Matt Martel) [mailto:matt_m-@hp.com]

Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:55 AM

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Subject: [OBRA Chat] knee pains

Hi OBRA land!

I need some advice on orthotics (sp?). Late summer I started getting

pain in my left knee (anterior?). It has not gone away yet. I have seen

a specialist. He took x-rays and an MRI.

Diagnosis: He thinks that the problem stems with a fallen arch in my

left foot and lack of flexibility in my quads. He said the problem would

be worse if I were a runner. Apparently this can cause a lot of stress

in the tendons on the inside (just right of my left knee cap) of the

knee.

recommended solution: 1) regular routine of stretching quads. 2)

orthotics for my cycling shoes to support the arch.

I will probably try an inexpensive orthotic first to see if this does

the trick. The doc said I may have to consider custom orthotics if this

doesn't work. Any thought on who and where this can be done?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

Matt Martel

Corvallis, OR

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<DIV><SPAN class=002344901-04112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Matt,

I suffer from knee pain also just behind the knee cap in my left knee. I have

had two series of injection of synvisc and I'm going to try it this winter

without it. I think I've found a combination of stuff that works to a fairly

good degree.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=002344901-04112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>1. I

have custom orthotics that Michael Martindale did for me. Your doc should be

able to guide you to someone he thinks is good.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=002344901-04112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>2. I

stretch there often as your doc recommended, sometimes even stretching in on the

bike helps.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=002344901-04112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>3. I

do leg extensions to strengthen that small part of the quad on the inside of the

leg. I hold the extension out, muscles contracted, to increase the strength in

the desired area for a count of ten. I will be working my way up to 3 sets of 15

at 140 lbs. Once strength begins to increase in that small part of the quad,

pain usually lessens somewhat and by the time I get up to 125 lbs. I'm usually

riding fairly pain free with only minimal flair ups.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=002344901-04112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>4. I

take anti-inflammitories to control inflammation.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=002344901-04112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>5. If

the pain gets kind of bad, I go into an icing regime in which I'll ice it twice

a day deeply for several days. This usually will bring things back to a

manageable state.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=002344901-04112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff

size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=002344901-04112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff

size=2>HTH</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=002344901-04112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff

size=2>Steve</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Martel, Matthew

S (Matt Martel) [mailto:matt_m-@hp.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday,

November 03, 2004 11:55 AM<BR><B>To:</B> ob-@topica.com<BR><B>Subject:</B>

[OBRA Chat] knee pains<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT color=#0000ff>Hi OBRA

land!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT

color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT color=#0000ff>I need some advice on

orthotics (sp?). Late summer I started getting pain in my left knee

(anterior?). It has not gone away yet. I have seen a specialist. He took

x-rays and an MRI. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT

color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT color=#0000ff>Diagnosis: He thinks

that the problem stems with a fallen arch in my left foot and lack of

flexibility in my quads. He said the problem would be worse if I were a

runner. Apparently this can cause a lot of stress in the tendons on the inside

(just right of my left knee cap) of the knee.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT

color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT color=#0000ff>recommended solution:

1) regular routine of stretching quads. 2) orthotics for my cycling shoes to

support the arch.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT

color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT color=#0000ff>I will probably try an

inexpensive orthotic first to see if this does the trick. The doc said I may

have to consider custom orthotics if this doesn't work. Any thought on who and

where this can be done?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT

color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT color=#0000ff>Thanks in advance for

any help you can provide.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT color=#0000ff>Matt

Martel</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT color=#0000ff>Corvallis,

OR</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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David Oliphant

2004-11-03

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MessageI would HIGHLY recommend......

Scott Peterson

Foot Fitness

Bend, OR

Tel: 541.617.1505

PS...the best in the business!!!!!!!!!

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From: Martel, Matthew S (Matt Martel)

To: ob-@topica.com

Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:54 AM

Subject: [OBRA Chat] knee pains

Hi OBRA land!

I need some advice on orthotics (sp?). Late summer I started getting pain in my left knee (anterior?). It has not gone away yet. I have seen a specialist. He took x-rays and an MRI.

Diagnosis: He thinks that the problem stems with a fallen arch in my left foot and lack of flexibility in my quads. He said the problem would be worse if I were a runner. Apparently this can cause a lot of stress in the tendons on the inside (just right of my left knee cap) of the knee.

recommended solution: 1) regular routine of stretching quads. 2) orthotics for my cycling shoes to support the arch.

I will probably try an inexpensive orthotic first to see if this does the trick. The doc said I may have to consider custom orthotics if this doesn't work. Any thought on who and where this can be done?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

Matt Martel

Corvallis, OR

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would HIGHLY recommend......</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Scott Peterson</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Foot Fitness</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bend, OR</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Tel: 541.617.1505</FONT></DIV>

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>PS...the best in the business!!!!!!!!!</FONT></DIV>

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<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT color=#0000ff>Hi OBRA

land!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT

color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT color=#0000ff>I need some advice on

orthotics (sp?). Late summer I started getting pain in my left knee

(anterior?). It has not gone away yet. I have seen a specialist. He took

x-rays and an MRI. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT

color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT color=#0000ff>Diagnosis: He thinks

that the problem stems with a fallen arch in my left foot and lack of

flexibility in my quads. He said the problem would be worse if I were a

runner. Apparently this can cause a lot of stress in the tendons on the inside

(just right of my left knee cap) of the knee.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT

color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT color=#0000ff>recommended solution:

1) regular routine of stretching quads. 2) orthotics for my cycling shoes to

support the arch.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT

color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT color=#0000ff>I will probably try an

inexpensive orthotic first to see if this does the trick. The doc said I may

have to consider custom orthotics if this doesn't work. Any thought on who and

where this can be done?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT

color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT color=#0000ff>Thanks in advance for

any help you can provide.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT color=#0000ff>Matt

Martel</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT color=#0000ff>Corvallis,

OR</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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Martel, Matthew S (Matt Martel)

2004-11-03

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Wow! Lots of replies! Thanks for all the great advice and leads!

Matt

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From: Martel, Matthew S (Matt Martel) [mailto:matt_m-@hp.com]

Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:55 AM

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Subject: [OBRA Chat] knee pains

Hi OBRA land!

I need some advice on orthotics (sp?). Late summer I started getting

pain in my left knee (anterior?). It has not gone away yet. I have seen

a specialist. He took x-rays and an MRI.

Diagnosis: He thinks that the problem stems with a fallen arch in my

left foot and lack of flexibility in my quads. He said the problem would

be worse if I were a runner. Apparently this can cause a lot of stress

in the tendons on the inside (just right of my left knee cap) of the

knee.

recommended solution: 1) regular routine of stretching quads. 2)

orthotics for my cycling shoes to support the arch.

I will probably try an inexpensive orthotic first to see if this does

the trick. The doc said I may have to consider custom orthotics if this

doesn't work. Any thought on who and where this can be done?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

Matt Martel

Corvallis, OR

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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"

color=blue size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">I need some advice

on orthotics (sp?). Late summer I started getting pain in my left knee

(anterior?). It has not gone away yet. I have seen a specialist. He took x-rays

and an MRI. </SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>

<DIV>

<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"

size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>

<DIV>

<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"

color=blue size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">Diagnosis: He

thinks that the problem stems with a fallen arch in my left foot and lack of

flexibility in my quads. He said the problem would be worse if I were a runner.

Apparently this can cause a lot of stress in the tendons on the inside (just

right of my left knee cap) of the knee.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>

<DIV>

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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>

<DIV>

<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"

color=blue size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">recommended

solution: 1) regular routine of stretching quads. 2) orthotics for my cycling

shoes to support the arch.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>

<DIV>

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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>

<DIV>

<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"

color=blue size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">I will probably try

an inexpensive orthotic first to see if this does the trick. The doc said I may

have to consider custom orthotics if this doesn't work. Any thought on who and

where this can be done?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>

<DIV>

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<DIV>

<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"

color=blue size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">Thanks in advance

for any help you can provide.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>

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Martel</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>

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color=blue size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue">Corvallis,

OR</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>

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Matt,

I had custom orthotics made for my cycling shoes by Warren Mays (Artisan

Technologies) in Tualatin, 503-885-9448. Cost is around $250.00. He is

great. I would try insoles first, however, they may not have enough

arch support. Good luck, Philip.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:55 AM

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Subject: [OBRA Chat] knee pains

Hi OBRA land!

I need some advice on orthotics (sp?). Late summer I started getting

pain in my left knee (anterior?). It has not gone away yet. I have seen

a specialist. He took x-rays and an MRI.

Diagnosis: He thinks that the problem stems with a fallen arch in my

left foot and lack of flexibility in my quads. He said the problem would

be worse if I were a runner. Apparently this can cause a lot of stress

in the tendons on the inside (just right of my left knee cap) of the

knee.

recommended solution: 1) regular routine of stretching quads. 2)

orthotics for my cycling shoes to support the arch.

I will probably try an inexpensive orthotic first to see if this does

the trick. The doc said I may have to consider custom orthotics if this

doesn't work. Any thought on who and where this can be done?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

Matt Martel

Corvallis, OR

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Matt,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I had custom <span class=SpellE>orthotics</span>

made for my cycling shoes by Warren Mays (Artisan Technologies) in Tualatin,

503-885-9448.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Cost is around

$250.00.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>He is great.<span

style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I would try insoles <span class=GramE>first,</span>

however, they may not have enough arch support.<span

style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Good luck, Philip. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Martel, Matthew S (Matt

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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ob-@topica.com<br>

<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [OBRA Chat] knee pains</span></font></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>I need some

advice on orthotics (sp?). Late summer I started getting pain in my left knee

(anterior?). It has not gone away yet. I have seen a specialist. He took x-rays

and an MRI. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Diagnosis: He

thinks that the problem stems with a fallen arch in my left foot and lack of

flexibility in my quads. He said the problem would be worse if I were a runner.

Apparently this can cause a lot of stress in the tendons on the inside (just

right of my left knee cap) of the knee.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>recommended

solution: 1) regular routine of stretching quads. 2) orthotics for my cycling

shoes to support the arch.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>I will

probably try an inexpensive orthotic first to see if this does the trick. The

doc said I may have to consider custom orthotics if this doesn't work. Any

thought on who and where this can be done?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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Hi OBRA land!

I need some advice on orthotics (sp?). Late summer I started getting

pain in my left knee (anterior?). It has not gone away yet. I have seen

a specialist. He took x-rays and an MRI.

Diagnosis: He thinks that the problem stems with a fallen arch in my

left foot and lack of flexibility in my quads. He said the problem would

be worse if I were a runner. Apparently this can cause a lot of stress

in the tendons on the inside (just right of my left knee cap) of the

knee.

recommended solution: 1) regular routine of stretching quads. 2)

orthotics for my cycling shoes to support the arch.

I will probably try an inexpensive orthotic first to see if this does

the trick. The doc said I may have to consider custom orthotics if this

doesn't work. Any thought on who and where this can be done?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

Matt Martel

Corvallis, OR

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<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT color=#0000ff>Hi OBRA

land!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT color=#0000ff>I need some advice on

orthotics (sp?). Late summer I started getting pain in my left knee (anterior?).

It has not gone away yet. I have seen a specialist. He took x-rays and an MRI.

</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT color=#0000ff>Diagnosis: He thinks

that the problem stems with a fallen arch in my left foot and lack of

flexibility in my quads. He said the problem would be worse if I were a runner.

Apparently this can cause a lot of stress in the tendons on the inside (just

right of my left knee cap) of the knee.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT

color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT color=#0000ff>recommended solution: 1)

regular routine of stretching quads. 2) orthotics for my cycling shoes to

support the arch.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT color=#0000ff>I will probably try an

inexpensive orthotic first to see if this does the trick. The doc said I may

have to consider custom orthotics if this doesn't work. Any thought on who and

where this can be done?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=625414319-03112004><FONT color=#0000ff>Thanks in advance for

any help you can provide.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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Martel</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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