Membership continues unabated

SuzWe-@BigFoot.com

2005-02-03



On the other hand the women 1/2/3 and the women 4 all do 4 laps.

 Why aren't the 4s doing fewer laps? I may be alone here, but I gotta say

that as a 4 who has done nothing other than time trials and PIR, the idea of

racing 4 laps around the relentlessly hilly Hagg Lake is too daunting.



Being a Washington racer who only comes to Oregon for the stage races, there is

no reason anyone should listen to me... However...I gotta agree with Susan on

this. Either the 1/2/3 women should do more laps or the cat-4s should do less.

It's not that the cat-4s are incapable of racing 44 miles, but for an early

season race, it does seem a bit more than necessary, especially with the

disparity in abilities you see in the cat-4's. IOW, in a hilly race, a lot of

them will be riding a good deal of the course alone. But I've never done

Banana Belt so...



As an upper-category racer, it has always annoyed me that we are doing the same

distance as the cat-4s. The cat-4s will obviously be having a more difficult

race, when it's the cat-1/2/3s who are more prepared for it.



Okay, carry on.



Suz









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Susan Otcenas

2005-02-03



  On the topic of women racers



OK, I have a question/comment.



At the Banana Belt, for example, the men pro/1/2 will be doing 5 laps the

first week, while the 3s (and I guess 4/5s?) are doing 4. More experience =

more laps. On the other hand the women 1/2/3 and the women 4 all do 4 laps.

Why aren't the 4s doing fewer laps? I may be alone here, but I gotta say

that as a 4 who has done nothing other than time trials and PIR, the idea of

racing 4 laps around the relentlessly hilly Hagg Lake is too daunting. I'm

not picking on Banana Belt. Other races, Piece of Cake for example, also

expect the beginner women to do the same number of laps as the more

experienced women.



I saw that at the Cherry Pie, the women 4s will be doing only one lap

instead of the two that the rest of the women are doing. If I'm not too

sore after Jack Frost, I may consider giving this a try. But 44 hilly miles

around Hagg Lake for a beginner?   It seems like too much. Last year I

volunteered at 2 banana belt races and the slower women were spread out for

MILES. That has got to be discouraging.



Just my thoughts. All the women who have been lobbying for MORE laps will

probably want to beat up on me now. :)



Susan



Clark Ritchie

2005-02-03



On the topic of women racers, June 8 is Ladies Night

at the River City Bicycles Mt Tabor Series presented

by Sorella Forte. There will be discounted entry and

special prizes for the female set.



We will also offer a workshop before the series

targeted at novice women racers.



--Clark







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mark duff

2005-02-03



I like to see those #'s hopefully each of those 113 women can introduce one

of their friends to the sport this season and the numbers can go up from

there, remember ladies PIR Mondays are a great way to introduce your friends

to racing in a fun, safe environment. I remember hearing of large numbers

last year on Mondays and hope to see it continue. :)





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We now have 849 annual members and 113 Women Whoo Hoo!!



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