When is it too cold to safely ride?

Training_Log

2005-02-08



I can tell you guys about cold. I come from, ICELAND, the motherland of

freezing.



I owned a 30lb Swedish city bike. Or technically it was a loaner. My uncle

was not using it.



That weight was very important. I could easily ride over ice and not worry

about

slipping too much. I have fallen many times. But with decreased speed the

less pain

you will feel when falling on the cold ice covered cement. I had no studs

and tread that was

about as thick as a standard 700X23 tire.



So, considering I have ridden to work in many Northern wind blown Arctic ice

storms I

have no limit to cold winter weather riding.



And don't go riding in the snow or on ice and blame it on me if you fall. I

have ridden in icy

conditions in Maine as well. I rode about 12 miles per day total to school

and back home

for about 3 years in winter weather that would cripple some Oregon

communities. So,

cold weather riding just something which comes with practice for me.



----- Original Message -----

From: "Brian Engelen" <beng-@comcast.net>

To: <gleb-@linuxweasel.com>

Cc: <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 9:41 PM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] When is it too cold to safely ride?





 Ah, memories of OIT. Does the Copenhagen still freeze-up on the

sidewalks?

Watch out for that!



Actually, I miss the cold clear days and the smell of Sage and Juniper.



I do have breathing problems after finishing rides in very cold weather

(20-

30 degrees). My lugs will get blocked-up like I have asthma, coughing

fits

and wheezing. I was advised by some experienced riders not to go inside

too

quickly and to warm-up in the cold air for a while before moving inside.

That seemed to help.



Brian Engelen, Class of '87











-----Original Message-----

From: Gregory Leblanc [mailto:gleb-@linuxweasel.com]

Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 8:54 PM

To: toka-@ix.netcom.com

Cc: ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] When is it too cold to safely ride?





Down here in Sunny Klamath Falls, I ride every day, rain, sun, snow,

whatever. Biked to finals with 6"+ of snow on the ground at the end of

last term. I do have a bike with studded tires, though, which I ride

when the roads aren't clear. As soon as there is some shoulder, I'm

back on the fixed gear with slicks.

Greg



--

Gregory Leblanc <gleb-@linuxweasel.com>



To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.

To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org

To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com



Brian Engelen

2005-02-08



Ah, memories of OIT. Does the Copenhagen still freeze-up on the sidewalks?

Watch out for that!



Actually, I miss the cold clear days and the smell of Sage and Juniper.



I do have breathing problems after finishing rides in very cold weather (20-

30 degrees). My lugs will get blocked-up like I have asthma, coughing fits

and wheezing. I was advised by some experienced riders not to go inside too

quickly and to warm-up in the cold air for a while before moving inside.

That seemed to help.



Brian Engelen, Class of '87











-----Original Message-----

From: Gregory Leblanc [mailto:gleb-@linuxweasel.com]

Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 8:54 PM

To: toka-@ix.netcom.com

Cc: ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] When is it too cold to safely ride?





Down here in Sunny Klamath Falls, I ride every day, rain, sun, snow,

whatever. Biked to finals with 6"+ of snow on the ground at the end of

last term. I do have a bike with studded tires, though, which I ride

when the roads aren't clear. As soon as there is some shoulder, I'm

back on the fixed gear with slicks.

Greg



--

Gregory Leblanc <gleb-@linuxweasel.com>



jwi-@pacifier.com

2005-02-08



I got up this morning and my NE Portland thermometer read 30 degrees

 and I decided to drive

the car. I saw many others out there riding and felt lousy being in my

car.



It's all a matter of equipment and attitude: http://icebike.org/



I've led a ride in 26 degree weather- we took it easy. Being the

dedicated ride leader I am, I led the gang and found the slick spots...

by falling on my fanny. Twice. Otherwise it was quite enjoyable.



Jeff



Gregory Leblanc

2005-02-08



On Tue, 2005-02-08 at 08:41 -0800, Keith A. Prior wrote:

 Howdy all!



I was wondering if any of you refrain from riding when the temperature is

below freezing. I am not worried about being cold, that is why we have all

these wonderful space

age fabrics. :) I just don't want to risk ending up on the deck or worse

under a car if I hit something

frozen. I got up this morning and my NE Portland thermometer read 30 degrees

and I decided to drive

the car. I saw many others out there riding and felt lousy being in my car.

When I got into Beaverton

there was frost on all the grass and I saw frost patches on the road.



Down here in Sunny Klamath Falls, I ride every day, rain, sun, snow,

whatever. Biked to finals with 6"+ of snow on the ground at the end of

last term. I do have a bike with studded tires, though, which I ride

when the roads aren't clear. As soon as there is some shoulder, I'm

back on the fixed gear with slicks.

Greg



--

Gregory Leblanc <gleb-@linuxweasel.com>



Mikenl-@aol.com

2005-02-08





--part1_a0.21b83200.2f3acf41_boundary

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit



As a year round commuter, it's just a matter of being prepared with good

clothing and allowing yourself extra time to make a safe ride. Planning your

route and carry your cell or bus fair if things get to bad to ride in.

Primarily it's up to your own judgement and comfort level.



Michael L. / aka Big Lak



--part1_a0.21b83200.2f3acf41_boundary

Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit



<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><HTML><FONT SIZE=2 PTSIZE=10 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">As a year round commuter, it's just a matter of being prepared with good clothing and allowing yourself extra time to make a safe ride.  Planning your route and carry your cell or bus fair if things get to bad to ride in.<BR>

Primarily it's up to your own judgement and comfort level.<BR>

<BR>

Michael L. / aka Big Lak</FONT></HTML>



--part1_a0.21b83200.2f3acf41_boundary--



Glenn Plunkett

2005-02-08



--0-238354921-1107894806=:19267

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii



The choice is an easy one for me, I have no car and can ride to work. I just have to cowboy up and be extra careful if there is frost or ice on the road. Hey, it works for bike riders in northern Europe ; ).

Glenn



"Keith A. Prior" <toka-@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

Howdy all!



I was wondering if any of you refrain from riding when the temperature is

below freezing. I am not worried about being cold, that is why we have all

these wonderful space

age fabrics. :) I just don't want to risk ending up on the deck or worse

under a car if I hit something

frozen. I got up this morning and my NE Portland thermometer read 30 degrees

and I decided to drive

the car. I saw many others out there riding and felt lousy being in my car.

When I got into Beaverton

there was frost on all the grass and I saw frost patches on the road.



Just wondering what all you die hard bike commuters (especially Roger Joys)

thought.



Cheers!



Keith



To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.

To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org

To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com









---------------------------------

Do you Yahoo!?

Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.

--0-238354921-1107894806=:19267

Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii



<DIV>The choice is an easy one for me, I have no car and can ride to work.  I just have to cowboy up and be extra careful if there is frost or ice on the road.  Hey, it works for bike riders in northern Europe ; ).</DIV>

<DIV>Glenn<BR><BR><B><I>"Keith A. Prior" <toka-@ix.netcom.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>

<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Howdy all!<BR><BR>I was wondering if any of you refrain from riding when the temperature is<BR>below freezing. I am not worried about being cold, that is why we have all<BR>these wonderful space<BR>age fabrics. :) I just don't want to risk ending up on the deck or worse<BR>under a car if I hit something<BR>frozen. I got up this morning and my NE Portland thermometer read 30 degrees<BR>and I decided to drive<BR>the car. I saw many others out there riding and felt lousy being in my car.<BR>When I got into Beaverton<BR>there was frost on all the grass and I saw frost patches on the road.<BR><BR>Just wondering what all you die hard bike commuters (especially Roger Joys)<BR>thought.<BR><BR>Cheers!<BR><BR>Keith<BR><BR>To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.<BR>To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org<BR>To unsubscribe send to

<hr size=1>Do you Yahoo!?<br>

<a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail_us/taglines/mobile/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo">Take Yahoo! Mail with you!</a> Get it on your mobile phone.

--0-238354921-1107894806=:19267--



Roger Joys

2005-02-08



----=_vm_0011_W9468630766_17172_1107894826

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit



We used to ride to about -20f. I switched to studded tires on a mtn bike though.

My biggest fear was swaeting when it really gets cold. If you flat, you are at risk for hypothermia.

I've long since ditched my MN winter bike since I moved to balmy Portland :)



-r







 -----Original Message-----

From: Keith A. Prior [mailto:toka-@ix.netcom.com]

Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2005 04:41 PM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] When is it too cold to safely ride?



Howdy all!



I was wondering if any of you refrain from riding when the temperature is

below freezing. I am not worried about being cold, that is why we have all

these wonderful space

age fabrics. :) I just don't want to risk ending up on the deck or worse

under a car if I hit something

frozen. I got up this morning and my NE Portland thermometer read 30 degrees

and I decided to drive

the car. I saw many others out there riding and felt lousy being in my car.

When I got into Beaverton

there was frost on all the grass and I saw frost patches on the road.



Just wondering what all you die hard bike commuters (especially Roger Joys)

thought.



Cheers!



Keith



To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.

To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org

To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com





----=_vm_0011_W9468630766_17172_1107894826

Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit



<html><P>We used to ride to about -20f. I switched to studded tires on a mtn bike though.</P>

<P>My biggest fear was swaeting when it really gets cold. If you flat, you are at risk for hypothermia. </P>

<P>I've long since ditched my MN winter bike since I moved to balmy Portland :)</P>

<P> </P>

<P>-r</P>

<P> </P>



----=_vm_0011_W9468630766_17172_1107894826--



Keith A. Prior

2005-02-08



Thanks to all who replied! :)



-K



mickw-@comcast.net

2005-02-08





--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_531_1107884484_0

Content-Type: text/plain

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit



If it looks too icy and dangerous for you, don't ride in it. Let all those other crazy's ride in it, it's not worth the risk. You can make up the training it in the Rain:)



-------------- Original message --------------



 There's a lot to be said for being too dumb to notice that it's icy. It

wasn't until I was a quarter mile from home and at the bottom of our hill

yesterday that I noticed that ice skates would have been a better choice for

the commmute to work. Once you're commited you just make the best of it. I

will say that I avoided busy streets and their threat of cars slpping and

sliding into me.

Kent Peterson

Eugene







-----Original Message-----

From: Keith A. Prior [mailto:toka-@ix.netcom.com]

Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 8:41 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] When is it too cold to safely ride?





Howdy all!



I was wondering if any of you refrain from riding when the temperature is

below freezing. I am not worried about being cold, that is why we have all

these wonderful space

age fabrics. :) I just don't want to risk ending up on the deck or worse

under a car if I hit something

frozen. I got up this morning and my NE Portland thermometer read 30 degrees

and I decided to drive

the car. I saw many others out there riding and felt lousy being in my car.

When I got into Beaverton

there was frost on all the grass and I saw frost patches on the road.



Just wondering what all you die hard bike commuters (especially Roger Joys)

thought.



Cheers!



Keith



To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.

To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org

To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com



To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.

To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org

To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com

--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_531_1107884484_0

Content-Type: text/html

Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit



<html><body>

<DIV>If it looks too icy and dangerous for you, don't ride in it. Let all those other crazy's ride in it, it's not worth the risk. You can make up the training it in the Rain:)</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>



--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_531_1107884484_0--



Kent Peterson

2005-02-08



There's a lot to be said for being too dumb to notice that it's icy. It

wasn't until I was a quarter mile from home and at the bottom of our hill

yesterday that I noticed that ice skates would have been a better choice for

the commmute to work. Once you're commited you just make the best of it. I

will say that I avoided busy streets and their threat of cars slpping and

sliding into me.

Kent Peterson

Eugene







-----Original Message-----

From: Keith A. Prior [mailto:toka-@ix.netcom.com]

Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 8:41 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] When is it too cold to safely ride?





Howdy all!



I was wondering if any of you refrain from riding when the temperature is

below freezing. I am not worried about being cold, that is why we have all

these wonderful space

age fabrics. :) I just don't want to risk ending up on the deck or worse

under a car if I hit something

frozen. I got up this morning and my NE Portland thermometer read 30 degrees

and I decided to drive

the car. I saw many others out there riding and felt lousy being in my car.

When I got into Beaverton

there was frost on all the grass and I saw frost patches on the road.



Just wondering what all you die hard bike commuters (especially Roger Joys)

thought.



Cheers!



Keith



To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.

To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org

To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com



Keith A. Prior

2005-02-08



Howdy all!



I was wondering if any of you refrain from riding when the temperature is

below freezing. I am not worried about being cold, that is why we have all

these wonderful space

age fabrics. :) I just don't want to risk ending up on the deck or worse

under a car if I hit something

frozen. I got up this morning and my NE Portland thermometer read 30 degrees

and I decided to drive

the car. I saw many others out there riding and felt lousy being in my car.

When I got into Beaverton

there was frost on all the grass and I saw frost patches on the road.



Just wondering what all you die hard bike commuters (especially Roger Joys)

thought.



Cheers!



Keith