FW: Really Racing!!!- Story fro Larssyn in Europe

Adams, Mike

2005-03-29



Sounds wonderful. At an early age I learned from an old Italian ex-pro that brakes are for emergencies and if you are a rider on someone's wheel and you cross wheels, or get sideswiped and go down because they reacted to the flow of the race in front of them, then you learn not to do it again unless you like road rash. Someone in the Masters 4/5 race stated I almost made someone wreck behind me, I guess they want follow my wheel so close next time.



-----Original Message-----

From: Candi Murray [mailto:cmur-@obra.org]

Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:46 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] FW: Really Racing!!!- Story fro Larssyn in Europe











Howdy All,



This one's a little long... Sorry I hope you don't have too much work to

today. I had a lot to write about.



-------------





*Europe has their own set of rules.



Two weeks ago I had my first race in Italy. After that race I couldn't

get over the chaotic mess of the field. However, having that race under

my belt, I rode in the field with ease this weekend. I don't know if

the racing in Italy is really chaotic, I'm beginning to think it's just

different from the US. In the US we say that you're responsible for

your front wheel, no one else. If you stick it somewhere it doesn't

belong it's your fault, not the fault the person in front of you who

might happen to sideswipe you. In Italy this is multiplied infinitely.

It is not a question of if you will get sideswiped, because you will.

You always must be in control of your bike because they don't use brakes

here and if you do you will get sent flying to the back of the field.



So here are a couple of tips.



Number one, stay in control of yourself and your bike, because you're

the only one responsible for yourself. I've yet to see anyone look over

their shoulder before charging full bore from the right side of the road

to the left or vice versa. I've personally discovered that, if you

first look over your shoulder you're too late and will be swallowed by

the field.



Number two, when racing in Italy you don't use your brakes. Except in

extreme measures you don't need them. Once you get the hang of things

you can begin to see paths that in American, are considered brick walls.

But in Italy if you flow with the field you can move up considerable

positions with no effort at all.



Number three, just to clarify things, there is no such thing as

"staying" at the front. If you want to stay at the front of the field

you must consciously, continually move up in position. My theory is

that if you can master this, that it will become an unconscious action

and then you will have mastered the ability to "stay" at the front of

the field in an ever rotating position. I'll let you know in a couple

weeks, but it worked this weekend.





*Racing, I mean really racing with the big girls!



I had a new meaning of confidence in this weekend's race. I don't know

if I had it before the race began, but I know it grew throughout the

race; confident both in the field and with my strength and fitness.

This weekend's race was only ninety-four kilometres. For the first two

thirds or three quarters we did the same loop ten times. It came

through the finish stretch. The finish stretch was fun. With two k to

go it was down hill. Just after the one k to go flag, the road

dead-ended into a roundabout where we had to turn right. Following the

roundabout there was a median in the road so it was tight. That road

was only 200 meters or so before a quick right hand turn onto the

up-hill finish stretch and just 250 meters to the finish. The rest of

that loop was relatively uneventful.



For the first part of the race I rode fairly conservatively. I was

always near the front but not really in the action. There was one break

early with ten to fifteen women, but my team mate Bettina was in it so

there was no chasing to be done. Gradually I took more part in the

action. I learned that if I had no fear to ride full-on, almost

directly, into the round-about I described above I could slip into a top

three position with little to no effort. I might have to ride on the

median for a bit but that was a little price to pay for the benefit I'd

receive. Once at the front on the uphill stretch I was set to get into

any break. All the action happens at the front. It's way more fun to

take part than to always play catch-up from the back or even middle of

the field. As important as I'm finding positioning is, you have to have

legs as well. You have to have the legs to maintain positioning and to

capitalize on it. I was very surprised at the reaction from my legs w!

hen I asked for more this weekend.



I first took part in the action by following some attacks. For a while

nothing lasted more than a kilometre, but I was happy to be a player. I

found not only could I go with some moves, but I could counter things,

and attack on my own.



After, I think, sixty kilometres or so a woman from Nicole Cook's team,

Safi Pasta Zara Manhattan, was alone off the front. The field wasn't

really going anywhere. There had been several good attacks very close

together, so people were getting tired and weren't wanting to do much.

I made a strong attack and was soon with the woman from Safi Pasta Zara

Manhattan. I warned her I was coming so she could hop on, but she

didn't look back and I think she thought the whole group was coming. It

took her a second to get things together and work with me. We worked

together and were alone for six kilometres or so. It was just the two

of us with a few lead motorcycles, a camera motorcycle, and lots of

people (especially old Italian men with big bellies, in professional

cycling team jerseys) cheering in Italian and waving flags.



Unfortunately we were reeled back in. Even more unfortunately we were

reeled in with only a couple kilometres before we switched to a new loop

with a one and a half to two kilometre climb. This loop also went

through the start finish every time. When I came to terms that we were

going to get reeled back to the group, I tried to minimize my efforts

knowing that the climb was coming. However, there wasn't much I could

do and I was cooked.



As the field sprinted up the first part of climb there was little I

could do. I stayed on top of things wanting to regain contact with the

leaders. Through the second part of the climb I started to reel in more

girls. I was always with a steady stream of girls, but they were not

the girls I wanted to be with. I had used too many matches too soon and

was paying for it. After the descent and on the flat again I was in a

group of maybe fifteen girls. We could see the field, and were chasing

but were not making up any ground. I was very frustrated, and was

regretting very much my early aggression. However, I was far from

giving up.



The next time up the climb Kathryn Watt, the Australian from the Italian

team Chirio Forno d'Asolo, charged full bore. I did everything I could

to hang on as we caught a couple other women, one of whom was a team

mate of hers. We flew by them, only her team mate coming with.



The three of us worked together still chasing the field, which we could

see, but not reach. Kathryn and I were clearly stronger than her team

mate, who often ended up sitting on. Kathryn and I worked hard, still

with the hope that we could catch the field. The next and final time up

the climb Kathryn once again was on the attack. Kathryn dropped her

team mate and also gapped me. There were three girls just up the road.

Another team mate from Kathryn and a woman from the Italian team Top

Girls and one other. Kathryn caught them and the women from Top Girls

hung on. I had stayed on top of things not far behind and managed to

crest the hill with Kathryn and the Top Girl.   



After the descent we were still chasing hard. The woman from Team Top

Girls could only pull every other time and was frustrating both Kathryn

and me. Kathryn yelled at her a bit, but the woman could do nothing. I

attacked with two and a half or three kilometres to go, in a successful

attempt to get rid of the woman from Top Girls. Then it was just

Kathryn and me. She said, "Ok let's work together now." I didn't have

a problem with that except that, without trying, in the second to last

corner with the round about and median I put a significant gap between

us. When I saw the gap I took it as my opportunity and charged for the

finish.



Out of the last right hand corner and with 200 meters to go I looked

back and Kathryn was on the chase coming quickly. I sprinted and gave

everything I had left, but it wasn't enough and Kathryn came by.



I cannot say I am disappointed with my race. I race hard, and it was

the first day I really felt like I could race with the top women. All

the women I've read about and thought were so amazing were there, and I

was in the action. I've never had better form. However, I have to

question what I could have done if I hadn't been involved in so many

moves in the middle of the race, and if I had not been off the front for

so long directly before the climbing began.



After the race Michi and I spoke about it. I said that it would have

been better if I had been smarter in the middle of the race. He told me

I could not say that. I saw an opportunity and I took it. Sometimes it

works and sometimes it doesn't, but that's racing. You have to take

chances if you want results. The important thing is that I was racing.

He said that right now none of the top women know who I am, so it's good

when they see that I can be a strong player and can take part. That way

someday when I'm in a break with them they will take it seriously as a

strong break that can work. The most important part to him was that I

raced hard to the finish. Every time on the climb I was catching more

girls, and not giving up hope. I told him this was the first time I was

starting to really believe that I can race competitively with the top

women in the world. His response was short, simple statement of

agreement.



I haven't seen results. I only know Nicole Cooke won. I have no idea

what my place was, but I count this as a very good race. I was in the

action, worked hard, and learned a lot!



Ciao,



Larssyn



To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.

To respond to the list manager send to cmur-@obra.org

To unsubscribe send to obra-uns-@topica.com



Candi Murray

2005-03-29









Howdy All,



This one's a little long... Sorry I hope you don't have too much work to

today. I had a lot to write about.



-------------





*Europe has their own set of rules.



Two weeks ago I had my first race in Italy. After that race I couldn't

get over the chaotic mess of the field. However, having that race under

my belt, I rode in the field with ease this weekend. I don't know if

the racing in Italy is really chaotic, I'm beginning to think it's just

different from the US. In the US we say that you're responsible for

your front wheel, no one else. If you stick it somewhere it doesn't

belong it's your fault, not the fault the person in front of you who

might happen to sideswipe you. In Italy this is multiplied infinitely.

It is not a question of if you will get sideswiped, because you will.

You always must be in control of your bike because they don't use brakes

here and if you do you will get sent flying to the back of the field.



So here are a couple of tips.



Number one, stay in control of yourself and your bike, because you're

the only one responsible for yourself. I've yet to see anyone look over

their shoulder before charging full bore from the right side of the road

to the left or vice versa. I've personally discovered that, if you

first look over your shoulder you're too late and will be swallowed by

the field.



Number two, when racing in Italy you don't use your brakes. Except in

extreme measures you don't need them. Once you get the hang of things

you can begin to see paths that in American, are considered brick walls.

But in Italy if you flow with the field you can move up considerable

positions with no effort at all.



Number three, just to clarify things, there is no such thing as

"staying" at the front. If you want to stay at the front of the field

you must consciously, continually move up in position. My theory is

that if you can master this, that it will become an unconscious action

and then you will have mastered the ability to "stay" at the front of

the field in an ever rotating position. I'll let you know in a couple

weeks, but it worked this weekend.





*Racing, I mean really racing with the big girls!



I had a new meaning of confidence in this weekend's race. I don't know

if I had it before the race began, but I know it grew throughout the

race; confident both in the field and with my strength and fitness.

This weekend's race was only ninety-four kilometres. For the first two

thirds or three quarters we did the same loop ten times. It came

through the finish stretch. The finish stretch was fun. With two k to

go it was down hill. Just after the one k to go flag, the road

dead-ended into a roundabout where we had to turn right. Following the

roundabout there was a median in the road so it was tight. That road

was only 200 meters or so before a quick right hand turn onto the

up-hill finish stretch and just 250 meters to the finish. The rest of

that loop was relatively uneventful.



For the first part of the race I rode fairly conservatively. I was

always near the front but not really in the action. There was one break

early with ten to fifteen women, but my team mate Bettina was in it so

there was no chasing to be done. Gradually I took more part in the

action. I learned that if I had no fear to ride full-on, almost

directly, into the round-about I described above I could slip into a top

three position with little to no effort. I might have to ride on the

median for a bit but that was a little price to pay for the benefit I'd

receive. Once at the front on the uphill stretch I was set to get into

any break. All the action happens at the front. It's way more fun to

take part than to always play catch-up from the back or even middle of

the field. As important as I'm finding positioning is, you have to have

legs as well. You have to have the legs to maintain positioning and to

capitalize on it. I was very surprised at the reaction from my legs w!

hen I asked for more this weekend.



I first took part in the action by following some attacks. For a while

nothing lasted more than a kilometre, but I was happy to be a player. I

found not only could I go with some moves, but I could counter things,

and attack on my own.



After, I think, sixty kilometres or so a woman from Nicole Cook's team,

Safi Pasta Zara Manhattan, was alone off the front. The field wasn't

really going anywhere. There had been several good attacks very close

together, so people were getting tired and weren't wanting to do much.

I made a strong attack and was soon with the woman from Safi Pasta Zara

Manhattan. I warned her I was coming so she could hop on, but she

didn't look back and I think she thought the whole group was coming. It

took her a second to get things together and work with me. We worked

together and were alone for six kilometres or so. It was just the two

of us with a few lead motorcycles, a camera motorcycle, and lots of

people (especially old Italian men with big bellies, in professional

cycling team jerseys) cheering in Italian and waving flags.



Unfortunately we were reeled back in. Even more unfortunately we were

reeled in with only a couple kilometres before we switched to a new loop

with a one and a half to two kilometre climb. This loop also went

through the start finish every time. When I came to terms that we were

going to get reeled back to the group, I tried to minimize my efforts

knowing that the climb was coming. However, there wasn't much I could

do and I was cooked.



As the field sprinted up the first part of climb there was little I

could do. I stayed on top of things wanting to regain contact with the

leaders. Through the second part of the climb I started to reel in more

girls. I was always with a steady stream of girls, but they were not

the girls I wanted to be with. I had used too many matches too soon and

was paying for it. After the descent and on the flat again I was in a

group of maybe fifteen girls. We could see the field, and were chasing

but were not making up any ground. I was very frustrated, and was

regretting very much my early aggression. However, I was far from

giving up.



The next time up the climb Kathryn Watt, the Australian from the Italian

team Chirio Forno d'Asolo, charged full bore. I did everything I could

to hang on as we caught a couple other women, one of whom was a team

mate of hers. We flew by them, only her team mate coming with.



The three of us worked together still chasing the field, which we could

see, but not reach. Kathryn and I were clearly stronger than her team

mate, who often ended up sitting on. Kathryn and I worked hard, still

with the hope that we could catch the field. The next and final time up

the climb Kathryn once again was on the attack. Kathryn dropped her

team mate and also gapped me. There were three girls just up the road.

Another team mate from Kathryn and a woman from the Italian team Top

Girls and one other. Kathryn caught them and the women from Top Girls

hung on. I had stayed on top of things not far behind and managed to

crest the hill with Kathryn and the Top Girl.   



After the descent we were still chasing hard. The woman from Team Top

Girls could only pull every other time and was frustrating both Kathryn

and me. Kathryn yelled at her a bit, but the woman could do nothing. I

attacked with two and a half or three kilometres to go, in a successful

attempt to get rid of the woman from Top Girls. Then it was just

Kathryn and me. She said, "Ok let's work together now." I didn't have

a problem with that except that, without trying, in the second to last

corner with the round about and median I put a significant gap between

us. When I saw the gap I took it as my opportunity and charged for the

finish.



Out of the last right hand corner and with 200 meters to go I looked

back and Kathryn was on the chase coming quickly. I sprinted and gave

everything I had left, but it wasn't enough and Kathryn came by.



I cannot say I am disappointed with my race. I race hard, and it was

the first day I really felt like I could race with the top women. All

the women I've read about and thought were so amazing were there, and I

was in the action. I've never had better form. However, I have to

question what I could have done if I hadn't been involved in so many

moves in the middle of the race, and if I had not been off the front for

so long directly before the climbing began.



After the race Michi and I spoke about it. I said that it would have

been better if I had been smarter in the middle of the race. He told me

I could not say that. I saw an opportunity and I took it. Sometimes it

works and sometimes it doesn't, but that's racing. You have to take

chances if you want results. The important thing is that I was racing.

He said that right now none of the top women know who I am, so it's good

when they see that I can be a strong player and can take part. That way

someday when I'm in a break with them they will take it seriously as a

strong break that can work. The most important part to him was that I

raced hard to the finish. Every time on the climb I was catching more

girls, and not giving up hope. I told him this was the first time I was

starting to really believe that I can race competitively with the top

women in the world. His response was short, simple statement of

agreement.



I haven't seen results. I only know Nicole Cooke won. I have no idea

what my place was, but I count this as a very good race. I was in the

action, worked hard, and learned a lot!



Ciao,



Larssyn