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Meadors, Ivan C

2005-04-13

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The race shows up as 50 miles on the WEB-site.

http://www.obra.org/flyers/2005/oregon_state_rr.html

Plus, you can bring your tandem and do another 50 miles when you are

done.

With that being said, there should be a full contingent of masters and

tandem

competitors trying to get in all those miles (except for Mike M.)!

9:20 am

Masters Men 50-59, 60+

Championship

50 miles

Medals *

12:45 pm

Tandem (5 Pre registered)

Championship

50 miles

Medals *

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From: mike.m-@obra.org [mailto:mike.m-@obra.org]

Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 12:01 AM

To: 'OBRA Remailer'

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] State Championship Road Race

Personally I think 31 miles is plenty and the hill is too big. I

suspect that the "average" 50+ guy is closer to my point of view than it

is to the "longer and harder" point of view. I also think you guys

complain too much, especially about races that other people are putting

on for you. If you don't like what is being offered then don't go. Race

organizers will get the message.

Mike Murray

-----Original Message-----

From: Schreck, George [mailto:george.-@pacificorp.com]

Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 16:58 PM

To: pat.s-@alldata.net; obra

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] State Championship Road Race

I agree. I doubt that I will be willing to drive all the way to

Madras for a 31 mile race. I think the organizers have a misguided view

of the 50 plus field. Maybe they should enter a road race with us and

they can see how easy it is to chase Dave Zimbleman around the course.

________________________________

From: Pat Sagers [mailto:pat.s-@alldata.net]

Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:26 PM

To: obra

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] State Championship Road Race

I think it's a great course, but with the distance what it is

and I'm in the 50+ group I'll probably get in the 3/4/5 or 40+ race.

Maybe the race organizer is trying to get some more folks to take part

by shortening the race to 31 miles, but I think it will have just the

opposite effect.

Pat

________________________________

From: Adams, Mike [mailto:mad-@huttig.com]

Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 4:47 PM

To: george.-@pacificorp.com; obra

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] State Championship Road Race

Everyone, men or women, go ride Gateway Grade at race

pace once, twice, then three times and then save enough for the last 3+

miles to the finish, most likely into a good old central Oregon south

wind right in your face. I know I can't wait. Now that's Championship

racing.

-----Original Message-----

From: Schreck, George

[mailto:george.-@pacificorp.com]

Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:58 PM

To: obra

Subject: [OBRA Chat] State Championship Road

Race

Speaking of race distances. I noticed that the

Masters 50+ race is only 31 miles, while the 40+ race is 50 miles. I

think I can probably squeeze out the extra 19 miles without keeling

over. Is it possible to give us a race that is a bit longer. This is a

ridiculous distance for a championship race. It is barely longer than

the district time trial. A championship race is supposed to be

difficult, and this is far shorter than any race I have done to date.

 George Schreck

 Phone: (503) 813-7211

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The race shows up as 50 miles on the

WEB-site.<o:p></o:p>

<a

href="http://www.obra.org/flyers/2005/oregon_state_rr.html">http://www.obra.org/flyers/2005/oregon_state_rr.html</a><o:p></o:p>

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Plus, you can bring your tandem and do

another 50 miles when you are done.<o:p></o:p>

With that being said, there should be a

full contingent of masters and tandem <o:p></o:p>

competitors trying to get in all those

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9:20 am<o:p></o:p>

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Masters Men 50-59, 60+<o:p></o:p>

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Championship<o:p></o:p>

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50 miles<o:p></o:p>

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Medals *<o:p></o:p>

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12:45 pm<o:p></o:p>

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Tandem (5 Pre registered)<o:p></o:p>

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Championship<o:p></o:p>

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From:

mike.m-@obra.org [mailto:mike.m-@obra.org] 

Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005

12:01 AM 

To: 'OBRA Remailer' 

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] State

Championship Road Race<o:p></o:p>

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Personally I think 31 miles is plenty and

the hill is too big. I suspect that the "average" 50+ guy is

closer to my point of view than it is to the "longer and harder"

point of view. I also think you guys complain too much, especially about

races that other people are putting on for you. If you don't like what is being

offered then don't go. Race organizers will get the message.<o:p></o:p>

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Mike Murray<o:p></o:p>

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-----Original Message----- 

From: Schreck, George

[mailto:george.-@pacificorp.com] 

Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005

16:58 PM 

To: pat.s-@alldata.net; obra 

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] State

Championship Road Race<o:p></o:p>

I agree. I doubt that I will be willing to

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for a 31 mile race. I think the organizers have a misguided view of the

50 plus field. Maybe they should enter a road race with us and they can

see how easy it is to chase Dave Zimbleman around the course.<o:p></o:p>

<o:p> </o:p>

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From: Pat

Sagers [mailto:pat.s-@alldata.net] 

Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:26

PM 

To: obra 

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] State

Championship Road Race<o:p></o:p>

I think it's a great course, but with the

distance what it is and I'm in the 50+ group I'll probably get in the 3/4/5 or

40+ race. Maybe the race organizer is trying to get some more folks to

take part by shortening the race to 31 miles, but I think it will have just the

opposite effect.<o:p></o:p>

 <o:p></o:p>

Pat<o:p></o:p>

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From: Adams,

Mike [mailto:mad-@huttig.com] 

Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 4:47

PM 

To: george.-@pacificorp.com;

obra 

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] State

Championship Road Race<o:p></o:p>

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Everyone, men or women, go ride Gateway

Grade at race pace once, twice, then three times and then save enough for

the last 3+ miles to the finish, most likely into a good old central Oregon

south wind right in your face. I know I can't wait. Now that's Championship

racing. <o:p></o:p>

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-----Original Message----- 

From: Schreck, George

[mailto:george.-@pacificorp.com] 

Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:58

PM 

To: obra 

Subject: [OBRA Chat] State

Championship Road Race<o:p></o:p>

Speaking

of race distances. I noticed that the Masters 50+ race is only 31 miles,

while the 40+ race is 50 miles. I think I can probably squeeze out the

extra 19 miles without keeling over. Is it possible to give us a race

that is a bit longer. This is a ridiculous distance for a championship

race. It is barely longer than the district time trial. A

championship race is supposed to be difficult, and this is far shorter than any

race I have done to date. <o:p></o:p>



George Schreck 

 Phone:

(503) 813-7211 



Fax: (503) 813-7190 

 <o:p></o:p>

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