Jerald Powell

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On Apr 26, 2005, at 4:55 PM, brijon kurie wrote:



 

"You are old," said the youth, "many you have outflew

    Though your wheel is steady it brings much grief

'Cos you trackstood your bike on the top of turn two--

    Can't all this raise ethical belief?"



"I have answered three questions, and that is enough,"

    Said his father. "Don't be such a pain!

Do you think I can listen all day to such stuff?

    Pull through, or I'll flick you off train.

... and then I might seriously get in your way if you try to to attack

me again





Jerry Powell

USAC Elite Coach

1926 SW Madison Street

Portland, OR 97205



503 222 7173

503 799 7823



jpow-@spiritone.com



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On Apr 26, 2005, at 4:55 PM, brijon kurie wrote:





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"You are old," said the youth, "many you have outflew



   Though your wheel is steady it brings much grief



'Cos you trackstood your bike on the top of turn two--



   Can't all this raise ethical belief?"





"I have answered three questions, and that is enough,"



   Said his father. "Don't be such a pain!



Do you think I can listen all day to such stuff?



   Pull through, or I'll flick you off train.





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... and then I might seriously get in your way if you try to to attack

me again







<fontfamily><param>Helvetica</param>Jerry Powell



<italic><x-tad-smaller>USAC Elite Coach



</x-tad-smaller></italic>1926 SW Madison Street



Portland, OR 97205





503 222 7173



503 799 7823





jpow-@spiritone.com</fontfamily>





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Bryan Curry

"You are old, father Bryan," the young man said,

   "And your hair has become very grey;

And yet you incessantly sprint at the head--

   Do you know, at your age, what they say?"



"In my youth," father Bryan replied to his son,

   "I feared it might tarnish my fame;

But, now that I'm perfectly sure I have none,

   Why, I set pace then crank it aflame."



"You are old," said the youth, "as I mentioned before,

   And your arms are most uncommonly slim;

Yet you echeloned and firmly closed the door--

   Pray how do you make it so grim?"



"In my youth," said his father, "with a team I signed,

   Reviewed each race with the d.s.;

And the draft specialty, which he gave to my mind,

   Allows me to ride with finesse."



"You are old," said the youth, "and your legs look too weak

   For anything steeper than flat;

Yet you shattered the field, in spite of a slow leak--

   Pray, how did you manage to do that?"



"In my youth," said the sage, as he shook his grey locks,

   "I kept all my limbs very supple

By the use of this ointment - twelve dollars a box--

   Allow me to sell you a couple?"



"You are old," said the youth, "many you have outflew

   Though your wheel is steady it brings much grief

'Cos you trackstood your bike on the top of turn two--

   Can't all this raise ethical belief?"



"I have answered three questions, and that is enough,"

   Said his father. "Don't be such a pain!

Do you think I can listen all day to such stuff?

   Pull through, or I'll flick you off train.

david baker

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Messageyeah,

there is no drug use in obra land.

that is just pro stuff.

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From: Harry Phinney

To: ob-@topica.com

Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 6:17 PM

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Re:"Ethical questions" around fast riders





"07 Edward Kendrick" wrote:



      The current performance of many riders is so fast, that is defies belief, and raises ethical questions.



What "ethical questions" does it raise for you? Are you insinuating that "old guys" who are faster than you must have some sort of "medical program", or are you suggesting a return to the "true amateur" model wherein training itself is unethical and manual laborers should thus be excluded from races due to an unfair advantage?



Harry Phinney

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>yeah,</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>there is no drug use in obra land.</FONT></DIV>

<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>that is just pro stuff.</FONT></DIV>

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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>

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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>

<A title=harr-@comcast.net

href="mailto:harry-p-@comcast.net">Harry Phinney</A> </DIV>

<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title-@topica.com

href="mailto:ob-@topica.com">ob-@topica.com</A> </DIV>

<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 13, 2005 6:17

PM</DIV>

<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [OBRA Chat] Re:"Ethical

questions" around fast riders</DIV>

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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"07 Edward Kendrick" wrote:</FONT></DIV>

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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2><SPAN class=575095515-13042005>    The current

performance of many riders is so fast, that is defies belief, and raises

ethical questions.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>

<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT

size=2><SPAN class=575095515-13042005></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>

<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN

class=575095515-13042005>What "ethical questions" does it raise for you? 

Are you insinuating that "old guys" who are faster than you must have

some sort of "medical program", or are you suggesting a return to

the "true amateur" model wherein training itself is unethical

and manual laborers should thus be excluded from races due to an unfair

advantage?</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>

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class=575095515-13042005></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>

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class=575095515-13042005>Harry Phinney</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV></DIV><PRE>To respond to the whole group send to ob-@topica.com.

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