Rehearsal RR Masters Age Categories

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Actually this was the subject of discussion at the annual meeting a few

years ago. The vote was finally that the rule would be:



8.5 - AGE GRADED CATEGORIES



Racing age is defined as the age the rider will be on December 31 of the

current year. Age graded races are defined at the discretion of the race

organizer subject to the following:



MASTERS may be any age range 30 or older. If no age range is stated on the

Entry Form/Race Announcement the default age will be 40 and older.



JUNIORS may be any age range 18 or younger. If no age range is stated on

the Entry Form/Race Announcement the default age will be 18 and younger.







This means that if a specific age range is designated then riders outside

that range, whether above or below, are not allowed to compete. This allows

races to permit "riding down" by stating the age as, for example "40+" or to

prohibit it by specifying a closed range such as "30-39". As for

Championship races there is also the rule:







7.0 STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS



State Championships will be designated by the OBRA Executive Director







That would be Candi. To keep alignment with what is done by the current

National Governing Body she has asked that the State Champs have a closed

range.



For the few of those who might care about my opinion I argued that the

default position should be to allow Masters to ride in younger groups and

Juniors to ride in older groups. The majority vote, however, disagreed.



Mike Murray



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From: Schreck, George [mailto:george.-@pacificorp.com]

Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 12:23 PM

To: jb24-@yahoo.com; ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Rehearsal RR Masters Age Categories





I think Candi made a decision a few years ago that you could not race down

for Championship races.



_____



From: J Bravard [mailto:jb24-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 9:18 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Rehearsal RR Masters Age Categories





One simple question, one simple answer please:



Is the Masters 30-39 championship this weekend open to 40+ riders?



Thanks -

John





Joe Cipale <jo-@aracnet.com> wrote:



Next SUnday, May 15th is the Reharsal Road Race. Some events will be

Championship events.

The follFor a listing of events that will be contested, please visit the

OBRA website and

click the link for "Rehearsal Road Race"



We will be using the OBRA wheel car for a few races,

I would suggest bringing neutral wheels in case your race is not using the

OBRA wheel car.



Since the finish line is 12 miles from the start line/parking lot

there is a limited number of parking spots available at the finish line

and the KOM/QOM line, It would be a good idea to carpool to the locations.



TBC would like to thank:

Madras High School ROTC

Weir's Cyclery

BMC West

Raven Research West

Best Western Rama Inn Madras

Subway

Jefferson County Chamber of Commerce

Madras Pioneer newspaper



Team Bridge City



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<DIV><SPAN class=052361221-09052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff

size=2>Actually this was the subject of discussion at the annual meeting a few

years ago.  The vote was finally that the rule would

be:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.2in; mso-pagination: none"><SPAN

style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">8.5 – AGE GRADED

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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">Racing age is defined as the

age the rider will be on December 31 of the current year.<SPAN

style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>Age graded races are defined at the

discretion of the race organizer subject to the following:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>

<P class=MsoBodyText2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.4in">MASTERS may be any age

range 30 or older. If no age range is stated on the Entry Form/Race Announcement

the default age will be 40 and older.</P>

<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 0.4in; mso-pagination: none"><SPAN

style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">JUNIORS may be any age range

18 or younger.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">  </SPAN>If no age range is

stated on the Entry Form/Race Announcement the default age will be 18 and

younger.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>

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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN> </P>

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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><o:p><SPAN

class=052361221-09052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>This means that

if a specific age range is designated then riders outside that range, whether

above or below, are not allowed to compete.  This allows races to

permit "riding down" by stating the age as, for example "40+" or to prohibit it

by specifying a closed range such as "30-39".  As for Championship races

there is also the rule:</FONT></SPAN></o:p></SPAN></P>

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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><o:p><SPAN

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class=052361221-09052005>

<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-pagination: none"><SPAN

style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">7.0 STATE

CHAMPIONSHIPS<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>

<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-pagination: none"><SPAN

style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">State Championships will be

designated by the OBRA <SPAN class=052361221-09052005>Executive

Director</SPAN></SPAN></P>

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size=2></FONT></SPAN></o:p></SPAN> </P></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=052361221-09052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>That

would be Candi.  To keep alignment with what is done by the current

National Governing Body she has asked that the State Champs have a closed

range.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=052361221-09052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff

size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>

<DIV><SPAN class=052361221-09052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>For

the few of those who might care about my opinion I argued that the default

position should be to allow Masters to ride in younger groups and Juniors to

ride in older groups.  The majority vote, however,

disagreed.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><!-- Converted from text/plain format -->

<P><FONT size=2>Mike <SPAN

class=052361221-09052005>Murray</SPAN></FONT></P>

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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT

face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Schreck, George

[mailto:george.-@pacificorp.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 09, 2005

12:23 PM<BR><B>To:</B> jb24-@yahoo.com; ob-@topica.com<BR><B>Subject:</B>

RE: [OBRA Chat] Rehearsal RR Masters Age Categories<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>

<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234532119-09052005><FONT face=Arial

color=#0000ff size=2>I think Candi made a decision a few years ago that you

could not race down for Championship races.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>

<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>

<HR tabIndex=-1>

<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> J Bravard [mailto:jb24-@yahoo.com]

<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 09, 2005 9:18 AM<BR><B>To:</B>

ob-@topica.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [OBRA Chat] Rehearsal RR Masters Age

Categories<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>

<DIV></DIV>

<DIV>One simple question, one simple answer please:</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV>Is the Masters 30-39 championship this weekend open to 40+ riders?</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV>Thanks -</DIV>

<DIV>John</DIV>

<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Joe Cipale <jo-@aracnet.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>

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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Next

    SUnday, May 15th is the Reharsal Road Race. Some events will be Championship

    events.<BR>The follFor a listing of events that will be contested, please

    visit the OBRA website and<BR>click the link for "Rehearsal Road

    Race"<BR><BR>We will be using the OBRA wheel car for a few races, <BR>I

    would suggest bringing neutral wheels in case your race is not using the

    OBRA wheel car.<BR><BR>Since the finish line is 12 miles from the start

    line/parking lot<BR>there is a limited number of parking spots available at

    the finish line<BR>and the KOM/QOM line, It would be a good idea to carpool

    to the locations.<BR><BR>TBC would like to thank:<BR>Madras High School

    ROTC<BR>Weir's Cyclery<BR>BMC West<BR>Raven Research West<BR>Best Western

    Rama Inn Madras<BR>Subway<BR>Jefferson County Chamber of Commerce<BR>Madras

    Pioneer newspaper<BR><BR>Team Bridge City<BR><BR>To respond to the whole

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I think Candi made a decision a few years ago that you could not race

down for Championship races.



________________________________



From: J Bravard [mailto:jb24-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 9:18 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Rehearsal RR Masters Age Categories





One simple question, one simple answer please:



Is the Masters 30-39 championship this weekend open to 40+ riders?



Thanks -

John





Joe Cipale <jo-@aracnet.com> wrote:



Next SUnday, May 15th is the Reharsal Road Race. Some events

will be Championship events.

The follFor a listing of events that will be contested, please

visit the OBRA website and

click the link for "Rehearsal Road Race"



We will be using the OBRA wheel car for a few races,

I would suggest bringing neutral wheels in case your race is not

using the OBRA wheel car.



Since the finish line is 12 miles from the start line/parking

lot

there is a limited number of parking spots available at the

finish line

and the KOM/QOM line, It would be a good idea to carpool to the

locations.



TBC would like to thank:

Madras High School ROTC

Weir's Cyclery

BMC West

Raven Research West

Best Western Rama Inn Madras

Subway

Jefferson County Chamber of Commerce

Madras Pioneer newspaper



Team Bridge City



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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=234532119-09052005><FONT face=Arial

color=#0000ff size=2>I think Candi made a decision a few years ago that you

could not race down for Championship races.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>

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<HR tabIndex=-1>

<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> J Bravard [mailto:jb24-@yahoo.com]

<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 09, 2005 9:18 AM<BR><B>To:</B>

ob-@topica.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [OBRA Chat] Rehearsal RR Masters Age

Categories<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>

<DIV></DIV>

<DIV>One simple question, one simple answer please:</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV>Is the Masters 30-39 championship this weekend open to 40+ riders?</DIV>

<DIV> </DIV>

<DIV>Thanks -</DIV>

<DIV>John</DIV>

<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Joe Cipale <jo-@aracnet.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>

<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq

style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Next

SUnday, May 15th is the Reharsal Road Race. Some events will be Championship

events.<BR>The follFor a listing of events that will be contested, please

visit the OBRA website and<BR>click the link for "Rehearsal Road

Race"<BR><BR>We will be using the OBRA wheel car for a few races, <BR>I would

suggest bringing neutral wheels in case your race is not using the OBRA wheel

car.<BR><BR>Since the finish line is 12 miles from the start line/parking

lot<BR>there is a limited number of parking spots available at the finish

line<BR>and the KOM/QOM line, It would be a good idea to carpool to the

locations.<BR><BR>TBC would like to thank:<BR>Madras High School

ROTC<BR>Weir's Cyclery<BR>BMC West<BR>Raven Research West<BR>Best Western Rama

Inn Madras<BR>Subway<BR>Jefferson County Chamber of Commerce<BR>Madras Pioneer

newspaper<BR><BR>Team Bridge City<BR><BR>To respond to the whole gro! up send

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Absolutely not.

Candi



-----Original Message-----

From: J Bravard [mailto:jb24-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 9:18 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] Rehearsal RR Masters Age Categories



One simple question, one simple answer please:



Is the Masters 30-39 championship this weekend open to 40+ riders?



Thanks -

John





Joe Cipale <jo-@aracnet.com> wrote:

Next SUnday, May 15th is the Reharsal Road Race. Some events will be

Championship events.

The follFor a listing of events that will be contested, please visit the

OBRA website and

click the link for "Rehearsal Road Race"



We will be using the OBRA wheel car for a few races,

I would suggest bringing neutral wheels in case your race is not using

the OBRA wheel car.



Since the finish line is 12 miles from the start line/parking lot

there is a limited number of parking spots available at the finish line

and the KOM/QOM line, It would be a good idea to carpool to the

locations.



TBC would like to thank:

Madras High School ROTC

Weir's Cyclery

BMC West

Raven Research West

Best Western Rama Inn Madras

Subway

Jefferson County Chamber of Commerce

Madras Pioneer newspaper



Team Bridge City



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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 09, 2005 9:18 AM<br>

<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ob-@topica.com<br>

<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [OBRA Chat] Rehearsal RR

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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Next SUnday, May 15th is the Reharsal Road Race. Some

events will be Championship events.<br>

The follFor a listing of events that will be contested, please visit the OBRA

website and<br>

click the link for "Rehearsal Road Race"<br>

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We will be using the OBRA wheel car for a few races, <br>

I would suggest bringing neutral wheels in case your race is not using the OBRA

wheel car.<br>

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Since the finish line is 12 miles from the start line/parking lot<br>

there is a limited number of parking spots available at the finish line<br>

and the KOM/QOM line, It would be a good idea to carpool to the locations.<br>

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TBC would like to thank:<br>

Madras High School ROTC<br>

Weir's Cyclery<br>

BMC West<br>

Raven Research West<br>

Best Western Rama Inn Madras<br>

Subway<br>

Jefferson County Chamber of Commerce<br>

Madras Pioneer newspaper<br>

<br>

Team Bridge City<br>

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One simple question, one simple answer please:



Is the Masters 30-39 championship this weekend open to 40+ riders?



Thanks -

John





Joe Cipale <jo-@aracnet.com> wrote:

Next SUnday, May 15th is the Reharsal Road Race. Some events will be Championship events.

The follFor a listing of events that will be contested, please visit the OBRA website and

click the link for "Rehearsal Road Race"



We will be using the OBRA wheel car for a few races,

I would suggest bringing neutral wheels in case your race is not using the OBRA wheel car.



Since the finish line is 12 miles from the start line/parking lot

there is a limited number of parking spots available at the finish line

and the KOM/QOM line, It would be a good idea to carpool to the locations.



TBC would like to thank:

Madras High School ROTC

Weir's Cyclery

BMC West

Raven Research West

Best Western Rama Inn Madras

Subway

Jefferson County Chamber of Commerce

Madras Pioneer newspaper



Team Bridge City



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<DIV>One simple question, one simple answer please:</DIV>

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<DIV>Is the Masters 30-39 championship this weekend open to 40+ riders?</DIV>

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<DIV>Thanks -</DIV>

<DIV>John</DIV>

<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Joe Cipale <jo-@aracnet.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>

<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Next SUnday, May 15th is the Reharsal Road Race. Some events will be Championship events.<BR>The follFor a listing of events that will be contested, please visit the OBRA website and<BR>click the link for "Rehearsal Road Race"<BR><BR>We will be using the OBRA wheel car for a few races, <BR>I would suggest bringing neutral wheels in case your race is not using the OBRA wheel car.<BR><BR>Since the finish line is 12 miles from the start line/parking lot<BR>there is a limited number of parking spots available at the finish line<BR>and the KOM/QOM line, It would be a good idea to carpool to the locations.<BR><BR>TBC would like to thank:<BR>Madras High School ROTC<BR>Weir's Cyclery<BR>BMC West<BR>Raven Research West<BR>Best Western Rama Inn Madras<BR>Subway<BR>Jefferson County Chamber of Commerce<BR>Madras Pioneer newspaper<BR><BR>Team Bridge City<BR><BR>To respond to the whole group send

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