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Adams, Mike

2005-05-16

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I was off the back the first time up the hill and felt satisfaction of reeling in as many as of those little guys each lap. What a great course and I love the finish because it favors the high power climber, big or little. Remember 2.2 height to weight and lots of aerobic capacity does help you climb better. Go for it hard.

-----Original Message-----

From: Marcroft, Brian [mailto:brian.m-@garmin.com]

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:32 AM

To: 'gary.m-@gmail.com'; mike.m-@obra.org

Cc: OBRA Remailer

Subject: RE: ***SPAM*** Re: [OBRA Chat] front Helium missing from wheel pi t @ Champi

90% of the road races end in a flat sprint anyway. One up hill finish a year isn't the end of the world.

-----Original Message-----

From: Gary Malcolm [mailto:gary.m-@gmail.com]

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:24 AM

To: mike.m-@obra.org

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Subject: ***SPAM*** Re: [OBRA Chat] front Helium missing from wheel pit @ Championship RR

Hmm,

Tall must mean something different to you than to me. I watched a couple of hundred pound (+ or -) juniors as they danced away up that hill to the win as I pounded away trying to reel in the leftovers. But maybe I'm nuts.

Let 'em catch me at Swan Island :)

Gary

On 5/16/05, mike.m-@obra.org < mike.m-@obra.org> wrote:

Although I agree about the placement of the finish I don't think that "under

5' 4" and 120lbs" really applies to any of the winners. Aaron Olsen? Barry

Wicks? Not exactly heavy guys but not very short. In the Cat 4/5 all the

top places were relatively tall guys. In some of the fields the top places

were actually fairly heavy people. They all had the characteristic of

having a big power output and ability to climb. Although some can also

sprint, they did not need to use that yesterday.

At any rate, you will be happy to know that moving the finish closer to the

start is being considered for the State Championships in June.

Mike Murray

-----Original Message-----

From: Gary Malcolm [mailto: gary.m-@gmail.com]

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 08:38 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] front Helium missing from wheel pit @ Championship

RR

Dear OBRA,

Here's my take on the Rehearsal Road Race.

I want to thank OBRA for finding another great course in a beautiful

location. As I have come to expect, the officiating and support was beyond

reproach. In particular I would like to point out what a balanced course

this loop turned out to be. Great wind swept flats. Twisty, technical

descents. Moderate rollers to stretch the legs and of course the hill just

long enough to allow good climbers to open gaps in the field.

And this brings me to my one negative. The finish placement. Why was the

finish basically located at the KOM? I understand wanting to balance the

climb and the big flats so as not to have too much of a sprint at the finish

for safety and easy officiating but the placement really was a gift to those

of us under 5' 4" and 120lbs (as verified by the results!). There really was

no chance even an extra mile or two would have given in reeling those little

guys back in, as had happenend on previous laps...

This probably should have been advertised as the Climbing Championship for

the 4/5's.

Thanks for listening to my whining. Perhaps I'll eat fewer donuts next

season. In any event I had a great time, didn't hit the hay bales' and the

Criterium season is just around the corner!

Gary Malcolm

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<DIV>I was

off the back the first time up the hill and felt satisfaction of reeling in as

many as of those little guys each lap. What a great course and I love the finish

because it favors the high power climber, big or little. Remember 2.2 height to

weight and lots of aerobic capacity does help you climb better. Go for it

hard.</DIV>

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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left>-----Original Message----- From: Marcroft, Brian

[mailto:brian.m-@garmin.com] Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:32

AM To: 'gary.m-@gmail.com'; mike.m-@obra.org Cc:

OBRA Remailer Subject: RE: ***SPAM*** Re: [OBRA Chat] front Helium

missing from wheel pi t @ Champi </DIV>

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90% of the road races

end in a flat sprint anyway. One up hill finish a year isn't the end of the

world. 

 

 

-----Original

Message----- From: Gary

Malcolm [mailto:gary.m-@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:24

AM To:

mike.m-@obra.org Cc: OBRA

Remailer Subject: ***SPAM***

Re: [OBRA Chat] front Helium missing from wheel pit @ Championship

RR

 

Hmm, Tall must mean something

different to you than to me. I watched a couple of hundred pound (+ or -)

juniors as they danced away up that hill to the win as I pounded away trying

to reel in the leftovers. But maybe I'm nuts. Let 'em catch me at Swan

Island :) Gary 

<DIV>

On 5/16/05, <A

href="mailto:mike.m-@obra.org">mike.m-@obra.org</A> <<A

href="mailto:mike.m-@obra.org">mike.m-@obra.org</A>> wrote:



Although I agree about the placement of

the finish I don't think that "under 5' 4" and 120lbs" really applies to

any of the winners. Aaron

Olsen? Barry Wicks? Not exactly heavy guys but not

very short. In the Cat 4/5 all the top places were relatively

tall guys. In some of the fields the top places were actually

fairly heavy people. They all had the characteristic of having a

big power output and ability to climb. Although some can

also sprint, they did not need to use that yesterday. At any rate,

you will be happy to know that moving the finish closer to the start is

being considered for the State Championships in June. Mike

Murray -----Original Message----- From: Gary Malcolm [mailto:<A

href="mailto:gary.m-@gmail.com">gary.m-@gmail.com</A>] Sent:

Monday, May 16, 2005 08:38 AM To: <A

href="mailto:ob-@topica.com">ob-@topica.com</A> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat]

front Helium missing from wheel pit @ Championship RR Dear

OBRA, Here's my take on the Rehearsal Road Race. I want to thank

OBRA for finding another great course in a beautiful location. As I have

come to expect, the officiating and support was beyond reproach. In

particular I would like to point out what a balanced course this loop

turned out to be. Great wind swept flats. Twisty, technical descents.

Moderate rollers to stretch the legs and of course the hill just long

enough to allow good climbers to open gaps in the field. And this

brings me to my one negative. The finish placement. Why was the finish

basically located at the KOM? I understand wanting to balance the climb and

the big flats so as not to have too much of a sprint at the finish for

safety and easy officiating but the placement really was a gift to those of

us under 5' 4" and 120lbs (as verified by the results!). There really

was no chance even an extra mile or two would have given in reeling those

little guys back in, as had happenend on previous laps... This

probably should have been advertised as the Climbing Championship for the

4/5's. Thanks for listening to my whining. Perhaps I'll eat fewer

donuts next season. In any event I had a great time, didn't hit the hay

bales' and the Criterium season is just around the corner! Gary

Malcolm To respond to the whole group send to <A

href="mailto:ob-@topica.com">ob-@topica.com</A>. To respond to the list

manager send to <A href="mailto:cmur-@obra.org">cmur-@obra.org</A> To

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href="mailto:obra-uns-@topica.com">obra-uns-@topica.com</A> ------------</DIV>

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