Championship RR / climbing / echelons

john schmidt

2005-05-16



Wow there was some cool racing. I didn't race but got to watch some of

the races...



I too think this course is a great balance. There is a enough flats

that this race really is a test of paceline, drafting and teamwork

skills. When I say Teamwork, I don't necessarily mean those on the same

club. To certain point (like say until the "sprint") everyone is your

team-mate (this is what makes cycling so fun). In my opinion, the climb

to a large extent was test of how smart everyone was. Are you going to

go it alone on the flats after the climb? or are you going be aware of

who's in front of you, whos behind you, slow up get a little group

together and start chasing (the sooner you do this the better). It

doesn't make much sense to have say 5 people (or even 2) spread out

spaced 100 yards apart going 20 mph when you could regroup and be doing

25-30 mph. Even having someone just sitting on your wheel is better

than nothing (yes aerodynamically it helps..) and they might recover and

start feeling better anyway in a couple miles... Got a strong climber

or two way off the front? With a group of 5-10 or more doing a proper

echelon, you CAN catch them (but the paceline has to be smooth and you

have to all work and do what you can... And when you start getting

close, let those climbers cook a while.. maybe just maybe they will be

toasted by the climb ? (or of course they may just let up and rejoin

the pack only to dance away again, but at least you caught them and now

have a chance !)



A great example of cool racing at madras was the Cat 4 / Masters Woman

field. As expected the pack broke up on the ascent. Three or four

women were sort of together at the top and were smart enough to rejoin /

wait for each other. One was behind but just killed herself to get

latched on. So now there were 5. These five then started working and

started reeling in those off the front and became 8. There were three

and two off the front and the 8 almost caught the the 3 (who were also

working hard together..). I thought it was just great especially given

that this was a first race for some! The two and three off the front

were smart and did right to just keep going hard. The only thing that

might have been done different were that those in No-mans land in

between the breaks and the pack maybe should have slowed up immediately

after the hill, re-grouped and started working together sooner.



Theres nothing more fun or exciting to watch or to be a particpate in,

then a break or a chase group in a race. A smooth running echelon

cruising along at 30 mph is just too cool and Yes cat 4's, cat 3's can

do it. (although sometimes takes some direction and cajoling by one or

two) And since most of us are not riding with huge teams, the teamwork

must be with anyone and everyone...



Now i just have to get my fat ass in shape.







Schreck, George wrote:

 

If you want a championship race with a flat finish, there is the

District Crit in August. Also, there is PIR and other flat races as

well. The road races should be hard, and if you look at a lot of the

European races, they end with uphill finishes. I think it provides a

bit of balance to have some races where climbing with power determines

the winner. Not every race should favor sprinters.



-----Original Message-----

From: mike.m-@obra.org [mailto:mike.m-@obra.org]

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:14 AM

To: 'OBRA Remailer'

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] front Helium missing from wheel pit @

Championship RR



Although I agree about the placement of the finish I don't think that

"under

5' 4" and 120lbs" really applies to any of the winners. Aaron Olsen?

Barry

Wicks? Not exactly heavy guys but not very short. In the Cat 4/5 all

the

top places were relatively tall guys. In some of the fields the top

places

were actually fairly heavy people. They all had the characteristic of

having a big power output and ability to climb. Although some can also

sprint, they did not need to use that yesterday.



At any rate, you will be happy to know that moving the finish closer to

the

start is being considered for the State Championships in June.





Mike Murray

-----Original Message-----

From: Gary Malcolm [mailto:gary.m-@gmail.com]

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 08:38 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] front Helium missing from wheel pit @

Championship

RR





Dear OBRA,



Here's my take on the Rehearsal Road Race.



I want to thank OBRA for finding another great course in a beautiful

location. As I have come to expect, the officiating and support was

beyond

reproach. In particular I would like to point out what a balanced course

this loop turned out to be. Great wind swept flats. Twisty, technical

descents. Moderate rollers to stretch the legs and of course the hill

just

long enough to allow good climbers to open gaps in the field.



And this brings me to my one negative. The finish placement. Why was the

finish basically located at the KOM? I understand wanting to balance the

climb and the big flats so as not to have too much of a sprint at the

finish

for safety and easy officiating but the placement really was a gift to

those

of us under 5' 4" and 120lbs (as verified by the results!). There really

was

no chance even an extra mile or two would have given in reeling those

little

guys back in, as had happenend on previous laps...



This probably should have been advertised as the Climbing Championship

for

the 4/5's.



Thanks for listening to my whining. Perhaps I'll eat fewer donuts next

season. In any event I had a great time, didn't hit the hay bales' and

the

Criterium season is just around the corner!



Gary Malcolm



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