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Me too, and I agree that it was a really great course! And I want to be=20

clear that I think the climbers yesterday were absolutely awesome.

But at 6'4" I need to get down to 172 lbs by your formula (yikes). Let's=20

see, that's about 23lbs, and I'm not exactly overweight as it is... so I=20

guess I'll take my ninth place and be proud :)=20

On 5/16/05, Adams, Mike <mad-@huttig.com> wrote:

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I was off the back the first time up the hill and felt satisfaction of=20

reeling in as many as of those little guys each lap. What a great course =

and=20

I love the finish because it favors the high power climber, big or little=

.=20

Remember 2.2 height to weight and lots of aerobic capacity does help you=

=20

climb better. Go for it hard.

=20

-----Original Message-----

*From:* Marcroft, Brian [mailto:brian.m-@garmin.com]

*Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2005 9:32 AM

*To:* 'gary.m-@gmail.com'; mike.m-@obra.org

*Cc:* OBRA Remailer

*Subject:* RE: ***SPAM*** Re: [OBRA Chat] front Helium missing from wheel=

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pi t @ Champi

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90% of the road races end in a flat sprint anyway. One up hill finish a=

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year isn't the end of the world.=20

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-----Original Message-----

*From:* Gary Malcolm [mailto:gary.m-@gmail.com]=20

*Sent:* Monday, May 16, 2005 9:24 AM

*To:* mike.m-@obra.org

*Cc:* OBRA Remailer

*Subject:* ***SPAM*** Re: [OBRA Chat] front Helium missing from wheel pit=

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@ Championship RR

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Hmm,

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Tall must mean something different to you than to me. I watched a couple=

=20

of hundred pound (+ or -) juniors as they danced away up that hill to the=

=20

win as I pounded away trying to reel in the leftovers. But maybe I'm nuts=

.=20

=20

Let 'em catch me at Swan Island :)

=20

Gary

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On 5/16/05, *mike.-@obra.org* <mike.m-@obra.org> wrote:=20

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Although I agree about the placement of the finish I don't think that=20

"under

5' 4" and 120lbs" really applies to any of the winners. Aaron Olsen? Barr=

y

Wicks? Not exactly heavy guys but not very short. In the Cat 4/5 all the

top places were relatively tall guys. In some of the fields the top place=

s=20

=20

were actually fairly heavy people. They all had the characteristic of

having a big power output and ability to climb. Although some can also

sprint, they did not need to use that yesterday.

=20

At any rate, you will be happy to know that moving the finish closer to=

=20

the=20

start is being considered for the State Championships in June.

=20

Mike Murray

-----Original Message-----

From: Gary Malcolm [mailto:gary.m-@gmail.com]

Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 08:38 AM=20

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] front Helium missing from wheel pit @=20

Championship

RR

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Dear OBRA,

=20

Here's my take on the Rehearsal Road Race.

=20

I want to thank OBRA for finding another great course in a beautiful

location. As I have come to expect, the officiating and support was beyon=

d

reproach. In particular I would like to point out what a balanced course=

=20

this loop turned out to be. Great wind swept flats. Twisty, technical

descents. Moderate rollers to stretch the legs and of course the hill jus=

t

long enough to allow good climbers to open gaps in the field.

=20

And this brings me to my one negative. The finish placement. Why was the

finish basically located at the KOM? I understand wanting to balance the

climb and the big flats so as not to have too much of a sprint at the=20

finish=20

for safety and easy officiating but the placement really was a gift to=20

those

of us under 5' 4" and 120lbs (as verified by the results!). There really=

=20

was

no chance even an extra mile or two would have given in reeling those=20

little=20

guys back in, as had happenend on previous laps...

=20

This probably should have been advertised as the Climbing Championship fo=

r

the 4/5's.

=20

Thanks for listening to my whining. Perhaps I'll eat fewer donuts next=20

season. In any event I had a great time, didn't hit the hay bales' and th=

e

Criterium season is just around the corner!

=20

Gary Malcolm

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Me too, and I agree that it was a really great course! And I want to be

clear that I think the climbers yesterday were absolutely awesome. 

 

But at 6'4" I need to get down to 172 lbs by your formula

(yikes). Let's see, that's about 23lbs, and I'm not exactly overweight

as it is... so I guess I'll take my ninth place and be proud :) <di=

v>On 5/16/05, Ada=

ms, Mike <<a href=3D"mailto:mad-@huttig.com">mad-@huttig.com</a>=

wrote:

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b(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><span=

class=3D"e" id=3D"q_103e6a1f044a05c5_0">

<div>I was=20

off the back the first time up the hill and felt satisfaction of reeling in=

as=20

many as of those little guys each lap. What a great course and I love the f=

inish=20

because it favors the high power climber, big or little. Remember 2.2 heigh=

t to=20

weight and lots of aerobic capacity does help you climb better. Go for it=

=20

hard.</div>

<blockquote style=3D"margin-right: 0px;" dir=3D"ltr">

<div align=3D"left" dir=3D"ltr">-----Ori=

ginal Message----- From: Marcroft, Brian=20

[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:brian.m-@garmin.com" target=3D"_blank" on=

click=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">brian.marcroft@garmi=

n.com</a>] Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 9:32=20

AM To: '<a href=3D"mailto:gary.m-@gmail.com" target=3D"_bl=

ank" onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">gary.malcolm@=

gmail.com</a>'; <a href=3D"mailto:mike.m-@obra.org" target=3D"_blank" o=

nclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">

mike.m-@obra.org</a> Cc:=20

OBRA Remailer Subject: RE: ***SPAM*** Re: [OBRA Chat] front Hel=

ium=20

missing from wheel pi t @ Champi </div>

<div>

90% of the road races=20

end in a flat sprint anyway. One up hill finish a year isn't the end of t=

he=20

world. 

 

 

-----Original=20

Message----- From: Ga=

ry=20

Malcolm [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:gary.m-@gmail.com" target=3D"_blan=

k" onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">gary.malcolm@gm=

ail.com</a>] Sent: Mon=

day, May 16, 2005 9:24=20

AM To:=20

<a href=3D"mailto:mike.m-@obra.org" target=3D"_blank" onclick=3D"retu=

rn top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">mike.m-@obra.org</a> <s=

pan style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Cc: OBRA=20

Remailer Subject: ***=

SPAM***=20

Re: [OBRA Chat] front Helium missing from wheel pit @ Championship=20

RR

 

Hmm, Tall must mean something=20

different to you than to me. I watched a couple of hundred pound (+ or -)=

=20

juniors as they danced away up that hill to the win as I pounded away try=

ing=20

to reel in the leftovers. But maybe I'm nuts. Let 'em catch me at=

Swan=20

Island :) Gary 

<div>

On 5/16/05, <a href=3D"mai=

lto:mike.m-@obra.org" target=3D"_blank" onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenEx=

tLink(window,event,this)">

mike.m-@obra.org</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:mike.m-@obra.=

org" target=3D"_blank" onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,th=

is)">mike.m-@obra.org</a>> wrote:=20



Although I agree about the placement of=

=20

the finish I don't think that "under 5' 4" and 120lbs" =

really applies to=20

any of the winners. Aaron=20

Olsen? Barry Wicks? Not exactly heavy guys but n=

ot=20

very short. In the Cat 4/5 all the top places were relative=

ly=20

tall guys. In some of the fields the top places were actua=

lly=20

fairly heavy people. They all had the characteristic of hav=

ing a=20

big power output and ability to climb. Although some can=20

also sprint, they did not need to use that yesterday. At any ra=

te,=20

you will be happy to know that moving the finish closer to the start =

is=20

being considered for the State Championships in June. Mike=20

Murray -----Original Message----- From: Gary Malcolm [mailto:<a hre=

f=3D"mailto:gary.m-@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" onclick=3D"return top=

.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">gary.m-@gmail.com</a>] Sent:=20

Monday, May 16, 2005 08:38 AM To: <a href=3D"mailto:ob-@topica.com" =

target=3D"_blank" onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">=

ob-@topica.com</a> Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat]=20

front Helium missing from wheel pit @ Championship RR Dear=20

OBRA, Here's my take on the Rehearsal Road Race. I want to =

thank=20

OBRA for finding another great course in a beautiful location. As I ha=

ve=20

come to expect, the officiating and support was beyond reproach. In=20

particular I would like to point out what a balanced course this loop=

=20

turned out to be. Great wind swept flats. Twisty, technical descents.=

=20

Moderate rollers to stretch the legs and of course the hill just long=

=20

enough to allow good climbers to open gaps in the field. And this=

=20

brings me to my one negative. The finish placement. Why was the finish=

=20

basically located at the KOM? I understand wanting to balance the clim=

b and=20

the big flats so as not to have too much of a sprint at the finish fo=

r=20

safety and easy officiating but the placement really was a gift to those<=

br>of=20

us under 5' 4" and 120lbs (as verified by the results!). There reall=

y=20

was no chance even an extra mile or two would have given in reeling th=

ose=20

little guys back in, as had happenend on previous laps... This=

=20

probably should have been advertised as the Climbing Championship for =

the=20

4/5's. Thanks for listening to my whining. Perhaps I'll eat fewer=

=20

donuts next season. In any event I had a great time, didn't hit the h=

ay=20

bales' and the Criterium season is just around the corner! Gary=

=20

Malcolm To respond to the whole group send to <a href=3D"mailto:ob=

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