RE: Defect -- Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL Wheels???

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some front wheels do have a "forward" direction



tri-spokes have an airfoil shape.



some, like the Mavic's have hubs that care which way

they go.



I was always taught that the label should face right

side up when viewed from the riding position, and if

properly built the label and the valve hole would line

up too.



Mark

--- Erik Voldengen <eri-@fusium.com> wrote:



 Yeah, I don't get it, either. The rear hub

obviously has a correct

orientation, with spokes angled and orientated to

"push" and "pull." But

the front wheel? I never thought it mattered.



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Erik Voldengen

Fusium, Inc.



2037 NW Lovejoy

Portland, OR 97229



503-226-7099

www.fusium.com



Fusium







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From: Schreck, George

[mailto:george.-@pacificorp.com]

Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:45 AM

To: impro-@hotmail.com; ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Defect -- Mavic Ksyrium SSC

SL Wheels???







this sounds like a left handed monkey wrench. How

can you ride the front

wheel backward. There is no forward or backward to

a front wheel. If the

skewer is on the wrong side, reverse it.







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SL Wheels???



OBRA Landers,





Has anyone heard anything about Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL

wheels being assembled

improperly (backward hub) in the past couple years?

The mechanic that just

tuned my bike is adamant that I have to ride with my

front wheel "backward"

or the hub will unthread itself.



Does anyone know anything about this?



thanks,

Bryant



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I think the mechanic is correct. I have a pair of these wheels - and

had my hub loosen or "unthread". I received the same advice - run the

wheel in the correct, or forward, direction. I suppose if one were

vigilant about watching to make sure the hub stays tight or uses a small

amount of Loctite - it would be okay to run backward. In general, the

principle seems similar to pedal and bottom bracket threads.



   "Schreck, George" <george.-@pacificorp.com> 5/25/2005 9:45:21

AM >>>



this sounds like a left handed monkey wrench. How can you ride the

front wheel backward. There is no forward or backward to a front wheel.

If the skewer is on the wrong side, reverse it.



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OBRA Landers,



Has anyone heard anything about Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL wheels being

assembled improperly (backward hub) in the past couple years? The

mechanic that just tuned my bike is adamant that I have to ride with my

front wheel "backward" or the hub will unthread itself.

Does anyone know anything about this?

thanks,

Bryant

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<DIV>I think the mechanic is correct.  I have a pair of these wheels - and had my hub loosen or "unthread".  I received the same advice - run the wheel in the correct, or forward, direction.  I suppose if one were vigilant about watching to make sure the hub stays tight or uses a small amount of Loctite - it would be okay to run backward.  In general, the principle seems similar to pedal and bottom bracket threads.</DIV>

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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=605344316-25052005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>this sounds like a left handed monkey wrench.  How can you ride the front wheel backward.  There is no forward or backward to a front wheel.  If the skewer is on the wrong side, reverse it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>

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<P>OBRA Landers,</P>

<P><BR>Has anyone heard anything about Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL wheels being assembled improperly (backward hub) in the past couple years?  The mechanic that just tuned my bike is adamant that I have to ride with my front wheel "backward" or the hub will unthread itself.  </P>

<P>Does anyone know anything about this?  </P>

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Clark Ritchie

2005-05-25



The marketing department of most hub manufacturers

would most likely argue that the correct orientation

of the front hub is such that the logo is readable

left to right from the position of the person riding

the bicycle.



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Yeah, I don't get it, either. The rear hub obviously has a correct

orientation, with spokes angled and orientated to "push" and "pull." But

the front wheel? I never thought it mattered.



___





Erik Voldengen

Fusium, Inc.



2037 NW Lovejoy

Portland, OR 97229



503-226-7099

www.fusium.com



Fusium







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From: Schreck, George [mailto:george.-@pacificorp.com]

Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:45 AM

To: impro-@hotmail.com; ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Defect -- Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL Wheels???







this sounds like a left handed monkey wrench. How can you ride the front

wheel backward. There is no forward or backward to a front wheel. If the

skewer is on the wrong side, reverse it.







_____



From: Performance Fitness Training [mailto:impro-@hotmail.com]

Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:22 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Defect -- Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL Wheels???



OBRA Landers,





Has anyone heard anything about Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL wheels being assembled

improperly (backward hub) in the past couple years? The mechanic that just

tuned my bike is adamant that I have to ride with my front wheel "backward"

or the hub will unthread itself.



Does anyone know anything about this?



thanks,

Bryant



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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:

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wrench.  How can you ride the front wheel backward.  There is no

forward or backward to a front wheel.  If the skewer is on the wrong

side, reverse it.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>



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Performance Fitness Training [mailto:impro-@hotmail.com] <br>

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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>OBRA

Landers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>



<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>

Has anyone heard anything about Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL wheels being assembled

improperly (backward hub) in the past couple years?  The mechanic that

just tuned my bike is adamant that I have to ride with my front wheel

"backward" or the hub will unthread itself.  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>



<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Does

anyone know anything about this?  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>



<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>thanks,<br>

Bryant<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>



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this sounds like a left handed monkey wrench. How can you ride the

front wheel backward. There is no forward or backward to a front wheel.

If the skewer is on the wrong side, reverse it.



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Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:22 AM

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Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] Defect -- Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL Wheels???







OBRA Landers,





Has anyone heard anything about Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL wheels being

assembled improperly (backward hub) in the past couple years? The

mechanic that just tuned my bike is adamant that I have to ride with my

front wheel "backward" or the hub will unthread itself.



Does anyone know anything about this?



thanks,

Bryant



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color=#0000ff size=2>this sounds like a left handed monkey wrench.  How can

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<P>OBRA Landers,</P>

<P><BR>Has anyone heard anything about Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL wheels being

assembled improperly (backward hub) in the past couple years?  The mechanic

that just tuned my bike is adamant that I have to ride with my front wheel

"backward" or the hub will unthread itself.  </P>

<P>Does anyone know anything about this?  </P>

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<html><div style='background-color:'><P>OBRA Landers,</P>

<P><BR>Has anyone heard anything about Mavic Ksyrium SSC SL wheels being assembled improperly (backward hub) in the past couple years?  The mechanic that just tuned my bike is adamant that I have to ride with my front wheel "backward" or the hub will unthread itself.  </P>

<P>Does anyone know anything about this?  </P>

<P>thanks,<BR>Bryant</P></div></html>