frame numbers

Candi Murray

2005-06-01



Good feedback. The cloth numbers cost OBRA almost $18,000 per year. I

can't see adding to that expense.



Candi Murray



Morrissette, Joel

2005-06-01



How about laminated frame numbers on heavy stock (like they use for

licenses and whatnot) with a rectangular hole on the top and left edges,

through which pass velcro straps - one for the head tube and one for the

top tube (or seatpost and seat rails?). A set of 2 issued to a rider,

good for life as long as they keep their membership current. Order them

in bulk and get a huge roll of double-sided 1" velcro strip that's hook

on one side and loop on the other.



-Joel



 -----Original Message-----

From: mark duff [mailto:track-@hotmail.com]

Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:17 PM

To: cmur-@obra.org; ob-@topica.com

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] frame numbers



I'll use one, make it mandatory, for road racing at least.

Any thing to make it easier on the officials.

Cheers

mark



 From: Candi Murray <cmur-@obra.org>

Reply-To: cmur-@obra.org

To: 'Martha Walsh' <martha-@yahoo.com>, ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] frame numbers

Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:39:50 -0700



We made frame numbers for a couple of years. (many hours in my

basement) They do show up nicely on the video. Most riders

refused to use them.

 Candi



-----Original Message-----

From: Martha Walsh [mailto:martha-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:28 PM

To: eri-@fusium.com; candi murray; mick walsh

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] ok then how about bike numbers?





 In the mean time, have any of you race official types

tried reading

  numbers mounted on frames instead of on bodies?



I can't resist replying to this. Up here in Washington,

somebody this

 year had the bright idea that we would use frame numbers.

First, you

 cannot mount them in the same place on all frames (consider

the compact

 frame of a small woman vs. a standard 60 cm frame, for

example). On my

 bike, I have to put the frame number on my seat post, which

means it's

 obscured during half of my pedal stroke. Second, it is difficult to

attach these, and you don't want them to be permanent

because you don't

 always want to race with them on your bike (stage races, for

example,

 or if you race in another state). They get blown around in the wind

when you put your bike on your roof rack and are susceptible to

cracking and breaking. I don't recommend this solution!

-Martha Walsh

 

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From: John Forbes [mailto:johnf-@msn.com]

Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 4:02 PM

To: track-@hotmail.com; cmur-@obra.org; ob-@topica.com

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] frame numbers







I'd so as well.



John Forbes

2126 NE 12th Ave.

Portland, OR 97212

503-331-6658



----- Original Message -----



From: mark duff <mailto:track-@hotmail.com>



To: cmur-@obra.org ; ob-@topica.com



Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:17 PM



Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] frame numbers







I'll use one, make it mandatory, for road racing at least. Any thing to make



it easier on the officials.

Cheers

mark



 From: Candi Murray <cmur-@obra.org>

Reply-To: cmur-@obra.org

To: 'Martha Walsh' <martha-@yahoo.com>, ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] frame numbers

Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:39:50 -0700



We made frame numbers for a couple of years. (many hours in my basement)

They do show up nicely on the video. Most riders refused to use them.

Candi



-----Original Message-----

From: Martha Walsh [mailto:martha-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:28 PM

To: eri-@fusium.com; candi murray; mick walsh

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] ok then how about bike numbers?





 In the mean time, have any of you race official

types tried reading numbers

mounted on frames instead of on bodies?



I can't resist replying to this. Up here in

Washington, somebody this year had the bright idea

that we would use frame numbers. First, you cannot

mount them in the same place on all frames (consider

the compact frame of a small woman vs. a standard 60

cm frame, for example). On my bike, I have to put the

frame number on my seat post, which means it's

obscured during half of my pedal stroke. Second, it

is difficult to attach these, and you don't want them

to be permanent because you don't always want to race

with them on your bike (stage races, for example, or

if you race in another state). They get blown around

in the wind when you put your bike on your roof rack

and are susceptible to cracking and breaking. I don't

recommend this solution! -Martha Walsh



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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Century Schoolbook"><span

style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Schoolbook";color:black'>I'll use

one, make it mandatory, for road racing at least. Any thing to make <br>

it easier on the officials.<br>

Cheers<br>

mark<br>

<br>

 From: Candi Murray <<a href="mailto:cmur-@obra.org"

title="mailto:cmur-@obra.org">cmur-@obra.org</a>><br>

 Reply-To: <a href="mailto:cmur-@obra.org" title="mailto:cmur-@obra.org">cmur-@obra.org</a><br>

To: 'Martha Walsh' <<a href="mailto:martha-@yahoo.com"

title="mailto:martha-@yahoo.com">martha-@yahoo.com</a>>, <a

href="mailto:ob-@topica.com" title="mailto:ob-@topica.com">ob-@topica.com</a><br>

 Subject: [OBRA Chat] frame numbers<br>

Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:39:50 -0700<br>

<br>

We made frame numbers for a couple of years. (many hours in my basement)<br>

They do show up nicely on the video.  Most riders refused to use them.<br>

Candi<br>

<br>

-----Original Message-----<br>

From: Martha Walsh [mailto:martha-@yahoo.com]<br>

Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:28 PM<br>

To: <a href="mailto:eri-@fusium.com" title="mailto:eri-@fusium.com">eri-@fusium.com</a>;

candi murray; mick walsh<br>

 Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] ok then how about bike numbers?<br>

<br>

<br>

 In the mean time, have any of you race official<br>

types tried reading numbers<br>

mounted on frames instead of on bodies?<br>

<br>

I can't resist replying to this.  Up here in<br>

Washington, somebody this year had the bright idea<br>

that we would use frame numbers.  First, you cannot<br>

mount them in the same place on all frames (consider<br>

the compact frame of a small woman vs. a standard 60<br>

cm frame, for example).  On my bike, I have to put the<br>

frame number on my seat post, which means it's<br>

obscured during half of my pedal stroke.  Second, it<br>

is difficult to attach these, and you don't want them<br>

to be permanent because you don't always want to race<br>

with them on your bike (stage races, for example, or<br>

if you race in another state).  They get blown around<br>

in the wind when you put your bike on your roof rack<br>

and are susceptible to cracking and breaking.  I don't<br>

recommend this solution!  -Martha Walsh<br>

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Well, that's two. Only 998 to go.



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From: John Forbes [mailto:johnf-@msn.com]

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Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] frame numbers





I'd so as well.

John Forbes

2126 NE 12th Ave.

Portland, OR 97212

503-331-6658



----- Original Message -----

From: mark duff <mailto:track-@hotmail.com>

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Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:17 PM

Subject: RE: [OBRA Chat] frame numbers



I'll use one, make it mandatory, for road racing at least. Any

thing to make

it easier on the officials.

Cheers

mark



>From: Candi Murray <cmur-@obra.org>

>Reply-To: cmur-@obra.org

>To: 'Martha Walsh' <martha-@yahoo.com>, ob-@topica.com

>Subject: [OBRA Chat] frame numbers

>Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:39:50 -0700

>

>We made frame numbers for a couple of years. (many hours in my

basement)

>They do show up nicely on the video. Most riders refused to

use them.

>Candi

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From: Martha Walsh [mailto:martha-@yahoo.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:28 PM

>To: eri-@fusium.com; candi murray; mick walsh

>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] ok then how about bike numbers?

>

>

> > In the mean time, have any of you race official

> > types tried reading numbers

> > mounted on frames instead of on bodies?

>

>I can't resist replying to this. Up here in

>Washington, somebody this year had the bright idea

>that we would use frame numbers. First, you cannot

>mount them in the same place on all frames (consider

>the compact frame of a small woman vs. a standard 60

>cm frame, for example). On my bike, I have to put the

>frame number on my seat post, which means it's

>obscured during half of my pedal stroke. Second, it

>is difficult to attach these, and you don't want them

>to be permanent because you don't always want to race

>with them on your bike (stage races, for example, or

>if you race in another state). They get blown around

>in the wind when you put your bike on your roof rack

>and are susceptible to cracking and breaking. I don't

>recommend this solution! -Martha Walsh

>

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<DIV><BR></DIV>I'll use one, make it mandatory, for road racing at least. Any

thing to make <BR>it easier on the

officials.<BR>Cheers<BR>mark<BR><BR>>From: Candi Murray <<A

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<<A title=mailto:martha-@yahoo.com

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frame numbers<BR>>Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:39:50 -0700<BR>><BR>>We

made frame numbers for a couple of years. (many hours in my

basement)<BR>>They do show up nicely on the video.  Most riders

refused to use them.<BR>>Candi<BR>><BR>>-----Original

Message-----<BR>>From: Martha Walsh

[mailto:martha-@yahoo.com]<BR>>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:28

PM<BR>>To: <A title=mailto:eri-@fusium.com

href="mailto:eri-@fusium.com">eri-@fusium.com</A>; candi murray; mick

walsh<BR>>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] ok then how about bike

numbers?<BR>><BR>><BR>> > In the mean time, have any of you race

official<BR>> > types tried reading numbers<BR>> > mounted on

frames instead of on bodies?<BR>><BR>>I can't resist replying to

this.  Up here in<BR>>Washington, somebody this year had the bright

idea<BR>>that we would use frame numbers.  First, you

cannot<BR>>mount them in the same place on all frames (consider<BR>>the

compact frame of a small woman vs. a standard 60<BR>>cm frame, for

example).  On my bike, I have to put the<BR>>frame number on my seat

post, which means it's<BR>>obscured during half of my pedal stroke. 

Second, it<BR>>is difficult to attach these, and you don't want

them<BR>>to be permanent because you don't always want to race<BR>>with

them on your bike (stage races, for example, or<BR>>if you race in another

state).  They get blown around<BR>>in the wind when you put your bike

on your roof rack<BR>>and are susceptible to cracking and breaking.  I

don't<BR>>recommend this solution!  -Martha

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I'd so as well.

John Forbes

2126 NE 12th Ave.

Portland, OR 97212

503-331-6658

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Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:17 PM

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I'll use one, make it mandatory, for road racing at least. Any thing to make

it easier on the officials.

Cheers

mark



>From: Candi Murray <cmur-@obra.org<mailto:cmur-@obra.org>>

>Reply-To: cmur-@obra.org<mailto:cmur-@obra.org>

>To: 'Martha Walsh' <martha-@yahoo.com<mailto:martha-@yahoo.com>>, ob-@topica.com<mailto:ob-@topica.com>

>Subject: [OBRA Chat] frame numbers

>Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:39:50 -0700

>

>We made frame numbers for a couple of years. (many hours in my basement)

>They do show up nicely on the video. Most riders refused to use them.

>Candi

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From: Martha Walsh [mailto:martha-@yahoo.com]

>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:28 PM

>To: eri-@fusium.com<mailto:eri-@fusium.com>; candi murray; mick walsh

>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] ok then how about bike numbers?

>

>

> > In the mean time, have any of you race official

> > types tried reading numbers

> > mounted on frames instead of on bodies?

>

>I can't resist replying to this. Up here in

>Washington, somebody this year had the bright idea

>that we would use frame numbers. First, you cannot

>mount them in the same place on all frames (consider

>the compact frame of a small woman vs. a standard 60

>cm frame, for example). On my bike, I have to put the

>frame number on my seat post, which means it's

>obscured during half of my pedal stroke. Second, it

>is difficult to attach these, and you don't want them

>to be permanent because you don't always want to race

>with them on your bike (stage races, for example, or

>if you race in another state). They get blown around

>in the wind when you put your bike on your roof rack

>and are susceptible to cracking and breaking. I don't

>recommend this solution! -Martha Walsh

>

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<DIV><BR></DIV>I'll use one, make it mandatory, for road racing at least. Any

thing to make <BR>it easier on the

officials.<BR>Cheers<BR>mark<BR><BR>>From: Candi Murray <<A

title=mailto:cmur-@obra.org

href="mailto:cmur-@obra.org">cmur-@obra.org</A>><BR>>Reply-To: <A

title=mailto:cmur-@obra.org

href="mailto:cmur-@obra.org">cmur-@obra.org</A><BR>>To: 'Martha Walsh'

<<A title=mailto:martha-@yahoo.com

href="mailto:martha-@yahoo.com">martha-@yahoo.com</A>>, <A

title=mailto:ob-@topica.com

href="mailto:ob-@topica.com">ob-@topica.com</A><BR>>Subject: [OBRA Chat]

frame numbers<BR>>Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:39:50 -0700<BR>><BR>>We

made frame numbers for a couple of years. (many hours in my

basement)<BR>>They do show up nicely on the video.  Most riders

refused to use them.<BR>>Candi<BR>><BR>>-----Original

Message-----<BR>>From: Martha Walsh

[mailto:martha-@yahoo.com]<BR>>Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:28

PM<BR>>To: <A title=mailto:eri-@fusium.com

href="mailto:eri-@fusium.com">eri-@fusium.com</A>; candi murray; mick

walsh<BR>>Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] ok then how about bike

numbers?<BR>><BR>><BR>> > In the mean time, have any of you race

official<BR>> > types tried reading numbers<BR>> > mounted on

frames instead of on bodies?<BR>><BR>>I can't resist replying to

this.  Up here in<BR>>Washington, somebody this year had the bright

idea<BR>>that we would use frame numbers.  First, you

cannot<BR>>mount them in the same place on all frames (consider<BR>>the

compact frame of a small woman vs. a standard 60<BR>>cm frame, for

example).  On my bike, I have to put the<BR>>frame number on my seat

post, which means it's<BR>>obscured during half of my pedal stroke. 

Second, it<BR>>is difficult to attach these, and you don't want

them<BR>>to be permanent because you don't always want to race<BR>>with

them on your bike (stage races, for example, or<BR>>if you race in another

state).  They get blown around<BR>>in the wind when you put your bike

on your roof rack<BR>>and are susceptible to cracking and breaking.  I

don't<BR>>recommend this solution!  -Martha

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2005-06-01



I'll use one, make it mandatory, for road racing at least. Any thing to make

it easier on the officials.

Cheers

mark



 From: Candi Murray <cmur-@obra.org>

Reply-To: cmur-@obra.org

To: 'Martha Walsh' <martha-@yahoo.com>, ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] frame numbers

Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:39:50 -0700



We made frame numbers for a couple of years. (many hours in my basement)

They do show up nicely on the video. Most riders refused to use them.

Candi



-----Original Message-----

From: Martha Walsh [mailto:martha-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:28 PM

To: eri-@fusium.com; candi murray; mick walsh

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] ok then how about bike numbers?





 In the mean time, have any of you race official

types tried reading numbers

mounted on frames instead of on bodies?



I can't resist replying to this. Up here in

Washington, somebody this year had the bright idea

that we would use frame numbers. First, you cannot

mount them in the same place on all frames (consider

the compact frame of a small woman vs. a standard 60

cm frame, for example). On my bike, I have to put the

frame number on my seat post, which means it's

obscured during half of my pedal stroke. Second, it

is difficult to attach these, and you don't want them

to be permanent because you don't always want to race

with them on your bike (stage races, for example, or

if you race in another state). They get blown around

in the wind when you put your bike on your roof rack

and are susceptible to cracking and breaking. I don't

recommend this solution! -Martha Walsh



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Candi Murray

2005-06-01



We made frame numbers for a couple of years. (many hours in my basement)

They do show up nicely on the video. Most riders refused to use them.

Candi



-----Original Message-----

From: Martha Walsh [mailto:martha-@yahoo.com]

Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 2:28 PM

To: eri-@fusium.com; candi murray; mick walsh

Subject: Re: [OBRA Chat] ok then how about bike numbers?





 In the mean time, have any of you race official

types tried reading numbers

mounted on frames instead of on bodies?



I can't resist replying to this. Up here in

Washington, somebody this year had the bright idea

that we would use frame numbers. First, you cannot

mount them in the same place on all frames (consider

the compact frame of a small woman vs. a standard 60

cm frame, for example). On my bike, I have to put the

frame number on my seat post, which means it's

obscured during half of my pedal stroke. Second, it

is difficult to attach these, and you don't want them

to be permanent because you don't always want to race

with them on your bike (stage races, for example, or

if you race in another state). They get blown around

in the wind when you put your bike on your roof rack

and are susceptible to cracking and breaking. I don't

recommend this solution! -Martha Walsh



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