sixday

Dan Houghton

2005-06-10



I'll donate a pint.



----- Original Message -----

From: "Candi Murray" <cmur-@obra.org>

To: <ob-@topica.com>

Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 8:55 AM

Subject: [OBRA Chat] sixday





 Last night at Thursday racing we had 13 madison team. For the sixday we

usually limit the A and B field to 9 teams apiece. There is a serious

potential that we will have more than 18 teams. If that happens choices

will have to be made.



1. Do we create a C field? There is not enough daylight to run a 3rd

field, this would mean that the schedule would have to be modified to

accommodate this field.



2. Do we cancel the sprinters? What is critical mass to have a

sprinters omnium? When does the 3rd field of Madison riders outweigh the

sprinters?



3. Do we increase the field size? If you watched the Madisons last

night you would know that we would have to put all major blood banks on

standby.



I have attached the preliminary schedule. If you have any constructive

ideas I would be interested in hearing them.



Candi Murray



laps Sunset 9:00

Day 1 start finish

Monday Madison Pursuits 1:00 6:00 PM 7:00 PM

200 m TT 0:10 7:00 PM 7:10 PM

B Madison 0:30 7:10 PM 7:40 PM

Chariot Races 0:05 7:40 PM 7:45 PM

A Madison 0:40 7:45 PM 8:25 PM

Keirin 0:10 8:25 PM 8:35 PM

2:35



Day 2 B Win & Out 10 0:05 6:00 PM 6:05 PM

Tuesday A Scratch 20 0:10 6:05 PM 6:15 PM

Sprint Round (4 rides) 0:20 6:15 PM 6:35 PM

B Scratch 20 0:10 6:35 PM 6:45 PM

A Win & Out 10 0:05 6:45 PM 6:50 PM

Alpenrose Mile 6 0:03 6:50 PM 6:53 PM

B Madison 0:40 6:53 PM 7:33 PM

Keirin 0:10 7:33 PM 7:43 PM

A Madison 1:00 7:43 PM 8:43 PM

2:43



Day 3 B Points 30 0:10 6:00 PM 6:10 PM

Wednesday A unk dist 20 0:10 6:10 PM 6:20 PM

Sprint Round (4 rides) 0:20 6:20 PM 6:40 PM

B unk dist 20 0:10 6:40 PM 6:50 PM

A points 40 0:15 6:50 PM 7:05 PM

B Madison 0:40 7:05 PM 7:45 PM

Keirin 0:10 7:45 PM 7:55 PM

A Madison 1:00 7:55 PM 8:55 PM

2:55





Day 4 B Miss & Out 18 0:10 6:00 PM 6:10 PM

Thursday A Win & Out 10 0:05 6:10 PM 6:15 PM

Sprint Round (4 rides) 0:20 6:15 PM 6:35 PM

Cat 1/2/3 Points 30 0:10 6:35 PM 6:45 PM

Cat 4/5 Scratch 20 0:10 6:45 PM 6:55 PM

B Win & Out 10 0:05 6:55 PM 7:00 PM

A Miss & Out 18 0:10 7:00 PM 7:10 PM

Keirin 0:10 7:10 PM 7:20 PM

Cat 1/2/3 Scratch 30 0:10 7:20 PM 7:30 PM

Cat 4/5 Points 20 0:10 7:30 PM 7:40 PM

B Madison 0:30 7:40 PM 8:10 PM

A Madison 0:40 8:10 PM 8:50 PM

2:50



Day 5 FTF sprints (4 rides) 0:20 6:00 PM 6:20 PM

Friday B Scratch 20 0:10 6:20 PM 6:50 PM

Sprinters M&O 0:10 6:30 PM 7:10 PM

A Scratch 20 0:10 6:40 PM 9:50 PM

FTF sprints (4 rides) 0:20 6:50 PM 6:50 PM

Flying Lap 0:20 7:10 PM 7:30 PM

FTF sprints (4 rides) 0:20 7:30 PM 7:50 PM

Team Match Sprint 0:10 7:50 PM 8:10 PM

B Madison 0:30 8:00 PM 8:40 PM

A Madison 0:40 8:30 PM 8:40 PM

3:10



Day 6 B Points Race 40 0:20 3:00 PM 3:20 PM

Saturday A Points Race 50 0:20 3:20 PM 3:40 PM

Sprints Round #1 3 up, 4 heats, winners to Semi Final, others to

Repechage 0:20 3:40 PM 4:00 PM

Juniors 0:40 4:00 PM 4:40 PM

Cat 4/5 Tempo 0:10 4:40 PM 4:50 PM

Sprints Repechage 4 up, 2 heats, winners to Semi Finals, others

to Minor Final 0:10 4:50 PM 5:00 PM

Wmn tempo 0:10 5:00 PM 5:10 PM

1/2/3 Scratch 0:10 5:10 PM 5:20 PM

Sprints Semi-Final, 3 up, 2 heats, winners to Final, others to

Rep Final 0:10 5:20 PM 5:30 PM

B Miss & Out 0:10 5:30 PM 5:40 PM

A Miss & Out 0:10 5:40 PM 5:50 PM

Sprints Minor Final, 6 up, 5 lap, 1 heat,Places 7th - 12th

0:10 5:50 PM 6:00 PM

Sprints Rep Final 4 up, 1 heat, winner to final, others place

4th, 5th, 6th 0:10 6:00 PM 6:10 PM

Cat 4/5 PAL 0:10 6:10 PM 6:20 PM

Wmn Unk 0:10 6:20 PM 6:30 PM

1/2/3 Points 0:20 6:30 PM 6:50 PM

Sprints Final 3 up, Places 1st, 2nd, 3rd 0:10

6:50 PM 7:00 PM

B Madison 0:45 7:00 PM 7:45 PM

A Madison 1:00 7:45 PM 8:45 PM



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mike.m-@obra.org

2005-06-10



Candi should have put out a more intelligible version of the schedule for

the Six. They one she posted contains time estimates for each ride for

planning purposes ONLY. Not to be confused with actual race start times.

Below is a bit easier to read version. Be aware that this schedule may be

modified based on rider turn out, available daylight, weather, etc.



Mike Murray



Day 1

Monday Madison Pursuits 18:00

200 m TT sprinters

B Madison 00:30

Chariot Races sprinters

A Madison 00:40

Keirin sprinters



Day 2 B Win & Out 18:00

Tuesday A Scratch

Sprint Round (4 rides) sprinters

B Scratch

A Win & Out

Alpenrose Mile sprinters

B Madison 00:40

Keirin sprinters

A Madison 01:00



Day 3 B Points 18:00

Wednesday A unk dist

Sprint Round (4 rides) sprinters

B unk dist

A points

B Madison 00:40

Keirin sprinters

A Madison 01:00



Day 4 B Miss & Out 18:00

Thursday A Win & Out

Sprint Round (4 rides) sprinters

Cat 1/2/3 Points

B Win & Out

A Miss & Out

Keirin sprinters

Cat 1/2/3 Scratch

B Madison 00:30

A Madison 00:40



Day 5 B Scratch 18:00

Friday Cat 4/5 Points

Sprinters M&O sprinters

A Scratch

Flying Lap sprinters

Cat 4/5 Progressive points

Team Match Sprint sprinters

B Madison 00:30

A Madison 00:40



Day 6 B Points Race 15:00

Saturday A Points Race

Sprints Round #1 3 up, 4 heats, winners to Semi Final, others to

Repechage sprinters

Juniors

Cat 4/5 Tempo

Sprints Repechage 4 up, 2 heats, winners to Semi Finals, others to

Minor Final sprinters

Wmn tempo

1/2/3 Scratch

Sprints Semi-Final, 3 up, 2 heats, winners to Final, others to Rep

Final sprinters

B Miss & Out

A Miss & Out

Sprints Minor Final, 6 up, 5 lap, 1 heat,Places 7th - 12th

sprinters

Sprints Rep Final 4 up, 1 heat, winner to final, others place 4th,

5th, 6th sprinters

Cat 4/5 PAL

Wmn Unk

1/2/3 Points

Sprints Final 3 up, Places 1st, 2nd, 3rd sprinters

B Madison 00:45

A Madison 01:00



-----Original Message-----

From: Candi Murray [mailto:cmur-@obra.org]

Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 08:56 AM

To: ob-@topica.com

Subject: [OBRA Chat] sixday





Last night at Thursday racing we had 13 madison team. For the sixday we

usually limit the A and B field to 9 teams apiece. There is a serious

potential that we will have more than 18 teams. If that happens choices

will have to be made.



1. Do we create a C field? There is not enough daylight to run a 3rd

field, this would mean that the schedule would have to be modified to

accommodate this field.



2. Do we cancel the sprinters? What is critical mass to have a sprinters

omnium? When does the 3rd field of Madison riders outweigh the sprinters?



3. Do we increase the field size? If you watched the Madisons last night

you would know that we would have to put all major blood banks on standby.



I have attached the preliminary schedule. If you have any constructive ideas

I would be interested in hearing them.



Candi Murray



laps Sunset 9:00

Day 1 start finish

Monday Madison Pursuits 1:00 6:00 PM 7:00 PM

200 m TT 0:10 7:00 PM 7:10 PM

B Madison 0:30 7:10 PM 7:40 PM

Chariot Races 0:05 7:40 PM 7:45 PM

A Madison 0:40 7:45 PM 8:25 PM

Keirin 0:10 8:25 PM 8:35 PM

2:35



Day 2 B Win & Out 10 0:05 6:00 PM 6:05 PM

Tuesday A Scratch 20 0:10 6:05 PM 6:15 PM

Sprint Round (4 rides) 0:20 6:15 PM 6:35 PM

B Scratch 20 0:10 6:35 PM 6:45 PM

A Win & Out 10 0:05 6:45 PM 6:50 PM

Alpenrose Mile 6 0:03 6:50 PM 6:53 PM

B Madison 0:40 6:53 PM 7:33 PM

Keirin 0:10 7:33 PM 7:43 PM

A Madison 1:00 7:43 PM 8:43 PM

2:43



Day 3 B Points 30 0:10 6:00 PM 6:10 PM

Wednesday A unk dist 20 0:10 6:10 PM 6:20 PM

Sprint Round (4 rides) 0:20 6:20 PM 6:40 PM

B unk dist 20 0:10 6:40 PM 6:50 PM

A points 40 0:15 6:50 PM 7:05 PM

B Madison 0:40 7:05 PM 7:45 PM

Keirin 0:10 7:45 PM 7:55 PM

A Madison 1:00 7:55 PM 8:55 PM

2:55





Day 4 B Miss & Out 18 0:10 6:00 PM 6:10 PM

Thursday A Win & Out 10 0:05 6:10 PM 6:15 PM

Sprint Round (4 rides) 0:20 6:15 PM 6:35 PM

Cat 1/2/3 Points 30 0:10 6:35 PM 6:45 PM

Cat 4/5 Scratch 20 0:10 6:45 PM 6:55 PM

B Win & Out 10 0:05 6:55 PM 7:00 PM

A Miss & Out 18 0:10 7:00 PM 7:10 PM

Keirin 0:10 7:10 PM 7:20 PM

Cat 1/2/3 Scratch 30 0:10 7:20 PM 7:30 PM

Cat 4/5 Points 20 0:10 7:30 PM 7:40 PM

B Madison 0:30 7:40 PM 8:10 PM

A Madison 0:40 8:10 PM 8:50 PM

2:50



Day 5 FTF sprints (4 rides) 0:20 6:00 PM 6:20 PM

Friday B Scratch 20 0:10 6:20 PM 6:50 PM

Sprinters M&O 0:10 6:30 PM 7:10 PM

A Scratch 20 0:10 6:40 PM 9:50 PM

FTF sprints (4 rides) 0:20 6:50 PM 6:50 PM

Flying Lap 0:20 7:10 PM 7:30 PM

FTF sprints (4 rides) 0:20 7:30 PM 7:50 PM

Team Match Sprint 0:10 7:50 PM 8:10 PM

B Madison 0:30 8:00 PM 8:40 PM

A Madison 0:40 8:30 PM 8:40 PM

3:10



Day 6 B Points Race 40 0:20 3:00 PM 3:20 PM

Saturday A Points Race 50 0:20 3:20 PM 3:40 PM

Sprints Round #1 3 up, 4 heats, winners to Semi Final, others to

Repechage 0:20 3:40 PM 4:00 PM

Juniors 0:40 4:00 PM 4:40 PM

Cat 4/5 Tempo 0:10 4:40 PM 4:50 PM

Sprints Repechage 4 up, 2 heats, winners to Semi Finals, others

to Minor Final 0:10 4:50 PM 5:00 PM

Wmn tempo 0:10 5:00 PM 5:10 PM

1/2/3 Scratch 0:10 5:10 PM 5:20 PM

Sprints Semi-Final, 3 up, 2 heats, winners to Final, others to

Rep Final 0:10 5:20 PM 5:30 PM

B Miss & Out 0:10 5:30 PM 5:40 PM

A Miss & Out 0:10 5:40 PM 5:50 PM

Sprints Minor Final, 6 up, 5 lap, 1 heat,Places 7th - 12th

0:10 5:50 PM 6:00 PM

Sprints Rep Final 4 up, 1 heat, winner to final, others place

4th, 5th, 6th 0:10 6:00 PM 6:10 PM

Cat 4/5 PAL 0:10 6:10 PM 6:20 PM

Wmn Unk 0:10 6:20 PM 6:30 PM

1/2/3 Points 0:20 6:30 PM 6:50 PM

Sprints Final 3 up, Places 1st, 2nd, 3rd 0:10

6:50 PM 7:00 PM

B Madison 0:45 7:00 PM 7:45 PM

A Madison 1:00 7:45 PM 8:45 PM



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Candi Murray

2005-06-10



Last night at Thursday racing we had 13 madison team. For the sixday we

usually limit the A and B field to 9 teams apiece. There is a serious

potential that we will have more than 18 teams. If that happens choices

will have to be made.



1. Do we create a C field? There is not enough daylight to run a 3rd

field, this would mean that the schedule would have to be modified to

accommodate this field.



2. Do we cancel the sprinters? What is critical mass to have a

sprinters omnium? When does the 3rd field of Madison riders outweigh the

sprinters?



3. Do we increase the field size? If you watched the Madisons last

night you would know that we would have to put all major blood banks on

standby.



I have attached the preliminary schedule. If you have any constructive

ideas I would be interested in hearing them.



Candi Murray



laps Sunset 9:00

Day 1 start finish

Monday Madison Pursuits 1:00 6:00 PM 7:00 PM

200 m TT 0:10 7:00 PM 7:10 PM

B Madison 0:30 7:10 PM 7:40 PM

Chariot Races 0:05 7:40 PM 7:45 PM

A Madison 0:40 7:45 PM 8:25 PM

Keirin 0:10 8:25 PM 8:35 PM

2:35



Day 2 B Win & Out 10 0:05 6:00 PM 6:05 PM

Tuesday A Scratch 20 0:10 6:05 PM 6:15 PM

Sprint Round (4 rides) 0:20 6:15 PM 6:35 PM

B Scratch 20 0:10 6:35 PM 6:45 PM

A Win & Out 10 0:05 6:45 PM 6:50 PM

Alpenrose Mile 6 0:03 6:50 PM 6:53 PM

B Madison 0:40 6:53 PM 7:33 PM

Keirin 0:10 7:33 PM 7:43 PM

A Madison 1:00 7:43 PM 8:43 PM

2:43



Day 3 B Points 30 0:10 6:00 PM 6:10 PM

Wednesday A unk dist 20 0:10 6:10 PM 6:20 PM

Sprint Round (4 rides) 0:20 6:20 PM 6:40 PM

B unk dist 20 0:10 6:40 PM 6:50 PM

A points 40 0:15 6:50 PM 7:05 PM

B Madison 0:40 7:05 PM 7:45 PM

Keirin 0:10 7:45 PM 7:55 PM

A Madison 1:00 7:55 PM 8:55 PM

2:55





Day 4 B Miss & Out 18 0:10 6:00 PM 6:10 PM

Thursday A Win & Out 10 0:05 6:10 PM 6:15 PM

Sprint Round (4 rides) 0:20 6:15 PM 6:35 PM

Cat 1/2/3 Points 30 0:10 6:35 PM 6:45 PM

Cat 4/5 Scratch 20 0:10 6:45 PM 6:55 PM

B Win & Out 10 0:05 6:55 PM 7:00 PM

A Miss & Out 18 0:10 7:00 PM 7:10 PM

Keirin 0:10 7:10 PM 7:20 PM

Cat 1/2/3 Scratch 30 0:10 7:20 PM 7:30 PM

Cat 4/5 Points 20 0:10 7:30 PM 7:40 PM

B Madison 0:30 7:40 PM 8:10 PM

A Madison 0:40 8:10 PM 8:50 PM

2:50



Day 5 FTF sprints (4 rides) 0:20 6:00 PM 6:20 PM

Friday B Scratch 20 0:10 6:20 PM 6:50 PM

Sprinters M&O 0:10 6:30 PM 7:10 PM

A Scratch 20 0:10 6:40 PM 9:50 PM

FTF sprints (4 rides) 0:20 6:50 PM 6:50 PM

Flying Lap 0:20 7:10 PM 7:30 PM

FTF sprints (4 rides) 0:20 7:30 PM 7:50 PM

Team Match Sprint 0:10 7:50 PM 8:10 PM

B Madison 0:30 8:00 PM 8:40 PM

A Madison 0:40 8:30 PM 8:40 PM

3:10



Day 6 B Points Race 40 0:20 3:00 PM 3:20 PM

Saturday A Points Race 50 0:20 3:20 PM 3:40 PM

Sprints Round #1 3 up, 4 heats, winners to Semi Final, others to

Repechage 0:20 3:40 PM 4:00 PM

Juniors 0:40 4:00 PM 4:40 PM

Cat 4/5 Tempo 0:10 4:40 PM 4:50 PM

Sprints Repechage 4 up, 2 heats, winners to Semi Finals, others

to Minor Final 0:10 4:50 PM 5:00 PM

Wmn tempo 0:10 5:00 PM 5:10 PM

1/2/3 Scratch 0:10 5:10 PM 5:20 PM

Sprints Semi-Final, 3 up, 2 heats, winners to Final, others to

Rep Final 0:10 5:20 PM 5:30 PM

B Miss & Out 0:10 5:30 PM 5:40 PM

A Miss & Out 0:10 5:40 PM 5:50 PM

Sprints Minor Final, 6 up, 5 lap, 1 heat,Places 7th - 12th

0:10 5:50 PM 6:00 PM

Sprints Rep Final 4 up, 1 heat, winner to final, others place

4th, 5th, 6th 0:10 6:00 PM 6:10 PM

Cat 4/5 PAL 0:10 6:10 PM 6:20 PM

Wmn Unk 0:10 6:20 PM 6:30 PM

1/2/3 Points 0:20 6:30 PM 6:50 PM

Sprints Final 3 up, Places 1st, 2nd, 3rd 0:10

6:50 PM 7:00 PM

B Madison 0:45 7:00 PM 7:45 PM

A Madison 1:00 7:45 PM 8:45 PM